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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 15:17:33
May 04 2011 02:48 GMT
#1
[image loading]
Yes, that's IU. <3

Ah yes, the third installment of the hopefully eagerly awaited hangul lesson.
Again, if you haven't read my previous blogs and want to learn hangul, you should, cuz otherwise you'll be very confused. :D

P1 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=216358
P2 http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=217620

[As always, you aren't going to be fluent after reading this. But you will develop a slightly better understanding of Korean writing/reading]

So let's review again. By now you already now quite the menagerie of letters, right?
Instead of going over the letters individually let's have you write them out.
Jee would be written as
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지


Hang would be written as (And no you can't just look at the title because that's han-gul, this is different. :D sneakies.)
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항


Nol or nor would be written as
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놀


Hopefully you remembered everything. It's ok if you remembered the letters but didn't get the block for correct, you'll learn that as you practice more.

The first letter at batis a confusing one.
ㄱ k/g
Don't get confused with n ㄴ
How I remembered it was
g = ㄱ they kind of looks they same
However, ㄱ can make a g sound or a k sound. It also looks a little different when with a vowel. (it curves a little)
고
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go


Next letter or consonant that's up is... ㅁLooks like a box. It's actually an m
You'll see this a lot in Korean surnames like 김 What does that say anyway?
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Gim


And then we have another vowel. ㅐ Looks like an H, but don't get confused. This makes the ae sound.
You'll see this Bisu's name.
Kim 택 Yong

Last letter in this lesson is ㅅ
It looks a bit like ㅈ, so don't get confused.
ㅅ makes the s sound.

To put everything together, you should be able to read this by now. :D
사랑해
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saranghae or "I love you" <333

고고씽
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go go sshing or "Let's do it!"

농심
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nong sim or shim
A Korean food company that makes jjang kimchi ramen bowls.
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Now you're well on your way to learning Korean AND Hangul. Amazing. :D
Please leave me feedback on what you like and don't like about the structure of these lessons. I'm no teacher, and just do it how I learned or how I think it should be learned.

Again, if I made any silly typos or anything, please correct me. :D

TL 사랑해!

Next lesson: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=222194

****
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 03:21:11
May 04 2011 03:14 GMT
#2
Not to be picky or anything...but in your logo, I think adding a "lee" for teamliquid sounds better.

You wrote "teem kwee duew" but I think it should be "teem lee kwee duew" You know what I'm saying?

I hope u can understand my konglish.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Lixler
Profile Joined March 2010
United States265 Posts
May 04 2011 03:18 GMT
#3
Appreciate the lessons :D

One correction though, Jaedong's name is actually 이제동, not 이재동. His name is kind of misleading for the letter anyway, since most people pronounce it like JAY dong and not JAE dong.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 03:26:57
May 04 2011 03:24 GMT
#4
On May 04 2011 12:18 Lixler wrote:
Appreciate the lessons :D

One correction though, Jaedong's name is actually 이제동, not 이재동. His name is kind of misleading for the letter anyway, since most people pronounce it like JAY dong and not JAE dong.


JAE would still be 재, it should be JE for 제.

I personally don't agree that 김 sounds like Kim. It's spelled Kim because it's easier for a native English speaker to say Kim than Gim. In Korean, it still sounds like Gim, rather than Kim.

Also, Teamkid? 팀리퀴드;; (Teem-Ree-Quee-Deu)

Good initiative though I'm sure a lot of people appreciate your efforts.

5/5 for IU.
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MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 03:27:04
May 04 2011 03:26 GMT
#5
On May 04 2011 12:24 l10f wrote:
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On May 04 2011 12:18 Lixler wrote:
Appreciate the lessons :D

One correction though, Jaedong's name is actually 이제동, not 이재동. His name is kind of misleading for the letter anyway, since most people pronounce it like JAY dong and not JAE dong.


JAE would still be 재, it should be JE for 제.

I personally don't agree that 김 sounds like Kim. It's spelled Kim because it's easier for a native English speaker to say Kim than Gim. In Korean, it still sounds like Gim, rather than Kim.


I think it's becuz some americans might read that as "Gym"

Kim is easy since there are american names like "kimberly"
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 03:28:25
May 04 2011 03:27 GMT
#6
On May 04 2011 12:26 MaRiNe23 wrote:
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On May 04 2011 12:24 l10f wrote:
On May 04 2011 12:18 Lixler wrote:
Appreciate the lessons :D

One correction though, Jaedong's name is actually 이제동, not 이재동. His name is kind of misleading for the letter anyway, since most people pronounce it like JAY dong and not JAE dong.


JAE would still be 재, it should be JE for 제.

I personally don't agree that 김 sounds like Kim. It's spelled Kim because it's easier for a native English speaker to say Kim than Gim. In Korean, it still sounds like Gim, rather than Kim.


I think it's becuz some americans might read that as "Gym"

Kim is easy since there are american names like "kimberly"


Yes, that is why. That's why when teaching how to speak Korean, or read Hangul, it's important to correct these "localizations" and teach it as Gim. (G sounds like G in Game)
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 04 2011 03:34 GMT
#7
Fixed to say Gim.
And I'm red cheeked about the banner error. :3
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 04 2011 03:34 GMT
#8
Not bad. A general guide for those who were previously government illiterate.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 04 2011 03:37 GMT
#9
Excellent!
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 04 2011 03:40 GMT
#10
On May 04 2011 12:18 Lixler wrote:
Appreciate the lessons :D

One correction though, Jaedong's name is actually 이제동, not 이재동. His name is kind of misleading for the letter anyway, since most people pronounce it like JAY dong and not JAE dong.


I've removed the Jaedong example. I'll wait till we learn the other (correct) vowels, thanks for pointing that out. :D
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 04:26:34
May 04 2011 04:25 GMT
#11
Mizu. I was just going to leave it but it's been bugging me all this time so I'm just going to say it.

The way you have teamliquid on your banner now currently says "team-li-ki-deu" or "teamlikid" when it should be team-li-kwee-deu. To make the "qui" sound you have to write the "kwee" part like l10f did.

I'm sorry I'm being picky about this but it's the name of our website and I just want to see it done correctly in korean, but if your tired of changing it then that's fine.

edit: other than that everything else seems fine and I think ur doing a great job.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 04 2011 04:30 GMT
#12
On May 04 2011 13:25 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Mizu. I was just going to leave it but it's been bugging me all this time so I'm just going to say it.

The way you have teamliquid on your banner now currently says "team-li-ki-deu" or "teamlikid" when it should be team-li-kwee-deu. To make the "qui" sound you have to write the "kwee" part like l10f did.

I'm sorry I'm being picky about this but it's the name of our website and I just want to see it done correctly in korean, but if your tired of changing it then that's fine.

edit: other than that everything else seems fine and I think ur doing a great job.


No worries, my vowels are terrible. T.T
I'm still working on it.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 04:44:30
May 04 2011 04:42 GMT
#13
재 and 제 make the same sound... people would probably write both as jae
lee jae ho
lee jae dong
i guess if you read it more like "jay", then i can see where you might be confused, but i read it as 제

nice little lessons! starting off slow is always nice (alternatively rushing into a language is really )
Hey! Listen!
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
May 04 2011 04:57 GMT
#14
Thanks a lot for this blogs!, pelase keep doing them, im looking forward to the next lesson. Its really entertaining to learn hangul.

Also i really like the review part and the last one of reading actual korean words and giving their meaning! at least to a person who knows 0% korean like me :D
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 04 2011 06:14 GMT
#15
I really appreciate everyone correcting me. I'm still learning so I'm not sure if I'm in a position to actually be teaching, but I'm just trying to give back to TL. Thank you again for everyone who knows way more Korean/Hangul than me, it's helping me learn more.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 08:12:13
May 04 2011 08:09 GMT
#16
so what was this lesson about? 아이유 right? didn't notice anything else at least

kidding aside 5/5 again thx and one question to all of you competent people here

is the ㅅ always a sh when next to an ㅣ or what is the rule there?
I feel like whenever there's a 시 it's shi
and for example in mizU's sig it would be so ...
(so that's what your sig says.. :D)

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ps. I wasn't really kidding, all I looked at was the banner
ohayo- on afk-op teamliquid | tuturuuuu! mayushi desu - 유인나, 이지은 사랑 (멍 지효 <3 )
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 08:19:16
May 04 2011 08:11 GMT
#17
On May 04 2011 17:09 onlinerobbe wrote:
so what was this lesson about? 아이유 right? didn't notice anything else at least

kidding aside 5/5 again thx and one question to all of you competent people here

is the ㅅ always a sh when next to an ㅣ or what is the rule there?
I feel like whenever there's a 시 it's shi


I believe so, yes.
We'll go over y vowels like 요 and 야 and 유 near the last lesson. ^^

And.. yes, I'll agree IU is quite the distraction.:3
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
May 04 2011 08:40 GMT
#18
Well hangul seems to be a lot simpler than it appears. It's very nice of you to be teaching us how to read. Picking up bits and pieces of every language is useful.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
May 04 2011 09:15 GMT
#19
one more thing... is the 사 in 사랑해 connected to the word for death? O.o
ohayo- on afk-op teamliquid | tuturuuuu! mayushi desu - 유인나, 이지은 사랑 (멍 지효 <3 )
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 04 2011 09:26 GMT
#20
On May 04 2011 18:15 onlinerobbe wrote:
one more thing... is the 사 in 사랑해 connected to the word for death? O.o


... I have no idea. What's the word for death?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
May 04 2011 09:43 GMT
#21
사 (afaik) ^^ I just listen to some lessons on talktomeinkorean.com everyday now to slowly learn the language without overwhelming myself right away, someday I want to actually speak korean (I said it before in part 1 I think, I wanted to do that for a while but you started it basically )

anyway... there I learned that expression 본방사수
The expression itself might not be an essential one esp. for me but the explanation of the last two blocks was interesting because 사수 means "to protect something at the risk of dying" (quoted from the site)
사 is death and 수 is protect

so.. that's why I was wondering if the words I love you in korean are expressed with the word dying/death or something similar
ohayo- on afk-op teamliquid | tuturuuuu! mayushi desu - 유인나, 이지은 사랑 (멍 지효 <3 )
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
May 04 2011 11:36 GMT
#22
On May 04 2011 18:26 mizU wrote:
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On May 04 2011 18:15 onlinerobbe wrote:
one more thing... is the 사 in 사랑해 connected to the word for death? O.o


... I have no idea. What's the word for death?


I wouldn't put too much thought in it because korean is a phonetic language. 사 has alot of meanings and they are all pronounced the same except for number 4 in sino-korean/chinese.
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
May 04 2011 12:05 GMT
#23
On May 04 2011 18:26 mizU wrote:
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On May 04 2011 18:15 onlinerobbe wrote:
one more thing... is the 사 in 사랑해 connected to the word for death? O.o


... I have no idea. What's the word for death?

The word death in traditional Korean is 죽음
The word death in derived Korean is 사망

Note 사 in 사랑해 cannot mean anything by itself because you can't separate words like you can do with derived words.
사 in 사망 can be taken out as the word is dervied from the characters 死亡. 사 (死) by itself means death because the character by itself means death.
The word love, 사랑 is a traditional Korean so it has no corresponding Han Moon (characters) for it, so there are no separate meaning for 사 and 랑.
This happens in English too! Using Latin derivation:
words like "transcribe" can be separated to prefix "trans-" (to move across) and the free bound verb "scribe" (to write).
However a pure form like write. Separating w/rite cannot and does not mean w/religious custom. And yep that was what you were pretty much what you were asking for.
Hi!
onlinerobbe
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany547 Posts
May 04 2011 12:33 GMT
#24
ah ok thx
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LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2013 Posts
May 04 2011 12:40 GMT
#25
Very nice, looking forward for next lesson.
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 04 2011 17:03 GMT
#26
Thanks so much for these lessons!
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 04 2011 22:28 GMT
#27
Again, if there's something you like about the lessons or don't like, let me know. :D
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
May 04 2011 22:55 GMT
#28
So i just wrote/did your three lessons in a row and i have to say that i want MOAR.
Awesome job man thanks a lot, and the comments are knowledgeable
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33298 Posts
May 04 2011 22:59 GMT
#29
typically koreans decide for themselves however the hell they want to write their names with the alphabet, because seriously, the various systems are of romanization are completely irrelevant to their daily lives to be worth learning.
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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 04 2011 23:22 GMT
#30
On May 05 2011 07:59 Waxangel wrote:
typically koreans decide for themselves however the hell they want to write their names with the alphabet, because seriously, the various systems are of romanization are completely irrelevant to their daily lives to be worth learning.


Was this about the Jaedong thing?
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frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
May 05 2011 18:47 GMT
#31
mizU, thank's so much for these! :D
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
May 05 2011 18:48 GMT
#32
Very nice blog, I did your three lesson and I think you're explaining stuff amazingly, I thought Hangul was much more difficult to learn. I'm eagerly awaiting new lessons :D
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
May 12 2011 12:24 GMT
#33
The next lesson should be up in a few hours. :3
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
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