EPTThe word molested. I feel that every single argument used against the word rape in lingo can also be applied to the word molested. And yet it's entirely common place to hear a guy on ESPN talking about a receiver getting to the open position unmolested or a guy on TSN talk about a player getting to the net unmolested. Does each time an announcer using this word cause a torrent of altar boys to mail the station? Probably not. So I just want to ask what the real difference is here. Why do we villainize the word rape while the word molest goes unmolested? Food for thought.
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Flaccid
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The word molested. I feel that every single argument used against the word rape in lingo can also be applied to the word molested. And yet it's entirely common place to hear a guy on ESPN talking about a receiver getting to the open position unmolested or a guy on TSN talk about a player getting to the net unmolested. Does each time an announcer using this word cause a torrent of altar boys to mail the station? Probably not. So I just want to ask what the real difference is here. Why do we villainize the word rape while the word molest goes unmolested? Food for thought. | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
On August 15 2011 10:35 Flaccid wrote: I'm going to go ahead and bump this thread because of a good parallel I heard while watching sports (on super serious TV btw) today. The word molested. I feel that every single argument used against the word rape in lingo can also be applied to the word molested. And yet it's entirely common place to hear a guy on ESPN talking about a receiver getting to the open position unmolested or a guy on TSN talk about a player getting to the net unmolested. Does each time an announcer using this word cause a torrent of altar boys to mail the station? Probably not. So I just want to ask what the real difference is here. Why do we villainize the word rape while the word molest goes unmolested? Food for thought. I think the way its used by the football people (like "unmolested") actually came first. That would make the difference really significant if thats true. But wait for the smart TL people. | ||
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Kalingingsong
Canada633 Posts
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Game
3191 Posts
On August 15 2011 11:41 Kalingingsong wrote: ok fine, I'm gonna start saying "I castrated you" every time I win a game now. I see nothing wrong with this... it's online lingo. | ||
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djbhINDI
United States372 Posts
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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aphorism
United States226 Posts
On August 15 2011 10:35 Flaccid wrote: I'm going to go ahead and bump this thread because of a good parallel I heard while watching sports (on super serious TV btw) today. The word molested. I feel that every single argument used against the word rape in lingo can also be applied to the word molested. And yet it's entirely common place to hear a guy on ESPN talking about a receiver getting to the open position unmolested or a guy on TSN talk about a player getting to the net unmolested. Does each time an announcer using this word cause a torrent of altar boys to mail the station? Probably not. So I just want to ask what the real difference is here. Why do we villainize the word rape while the word molest goes unmolested? Food for thought. The words molest and harass are not necessarily sexual, while the word rape is. To say that hellions are 'harassing' a mineral line or that a dropship escapes a base 'unmolested' are accurate uses of those words, but to say an army rapes another is not. That's my interpretation, at least. | ||
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Flix
Belgium114 Posts
I came to TL and searched if any threads on the use of the term rape existed and I found this one. The following is a cross post from my post on Reddit I wanted to share here as well and keep hearing what people think about this. I believe it's an important topic on the ethical level. About the use of the word "rape" when reffering to games and in the gaming community in general. I for one don't appreciate it at all. I don't want this to come accross as though i'm telling anyone how they should express themselves, everyone has the right to choose. However some people forget just how negative a connotation the word "rape" has. In my view it is being freely used by people that have never been exposed to a real life rape or don't have to worry about it. Rape is a scary reality for women in general or people that have actually been raped or are close to a rape victim. Saying to your male buddy "my voids raped your roaches" in a game is very different that saying it to a woman or a rape victim. It's as though many in the gaming community forget that they're using words that can really hurt and affect people depending on their life experiences. It shows ignorance and insensitiveness to other people and their feelings. Do you ever hear respected casters use that term? No because it's immature, negative and can really offend. They could lose their jobs if they did, it's quite serious to misuse this term as is being done alot. Saying "rape that bitch" is degrading, there's no justifying it in my view. when will these people ever grow up and stop using the word rape everywhere? If it matters, I'm fortunate enough to never have been directly exposed to rape on myself or anyone very close to me | ||
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
It's not like women live in constant fear of being raped and you've somehow trivialized women all over's general experience of life. It's not like you would even be trivializing the lives of cancer patients if you compared something annoying to cancer. It's just immature and makes you sound like a 15 y/o boy (saying rape, that is). IMO you're very much bordering on benevolent sexism if you make this into a gender topic  Yeah, it's more likely for a woman to be raped in a dangerous place than a man, but the term isn't exactly gender specific and you should have heard at least one prison story.So don't go white knighting | ||
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Akamu
United States309 Posts
n. 1. The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse. 2. The act of seizing and carrying off by force; abduction. 3. Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice. tr.v. raped, rap·ing, rapes 1. To force (another person) to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse; commit rape on. 2. To seize and carry off by force. 3. To plunder or pillage. only the first entry in both involves any sexual act. Rape means multiple things. I get that rape victims are probably hyper sensitive about it and that it may be offensive to some people. But personally, i refuse to NOT use it (in my gaming vocab). There's no reason a castor or some player in a major event should say it. Surely they can think of a more colorful description that won't offend a very vocal minority but when it's just me and my friends in vent and i say "dude, i just fawking rappppped this toss so hard!" I'm going to say it and i'm going to keep saying it. It has always really bothered me when people say "blah blah blah you can't/ shouldn't say X" whether X has been retarded, gay or rape. It's my right to express myself through whatever vocabulary i choose. It's your choice to get offended. No one every has ever said "haha you got raped!" to a rape victim. It's a different context. | ||
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Sermokala
United States13689 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On August 15 2011 16:33 aphorism wrote: The words molest and harass are not necessarily sexual, while the word rape is. To say that hellions are 'harassing' a mineral line or that a dropship escapes a base 'unmolested' are accurate uses of those words, but to say an army rapes another is not. That's my interpretation, at least. Rape also has non-sexual definitions, I think that it is a synonym of pillage. | ||
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