I think it's a good word but I'd like it if the casters would vary their language a bit more using replacements for the word "rape" such as ravaged or violated. It would bring alot of variety into the casts

Rabbitmaster

1357 Posts

April 20 2011 13:29 GMT

#22

On April 20 2011 22:18 DorF wrote:
I think it's a good word but I'd like it if the casters would vary their language a bit more using replacements for the word "rape" such as ravaged or violated. It would bring alot of variety into the casts

I agree with this. I don't mind casters using the word rape at all, but i do mind repetition (see gretorps "HUUUUUGE" ever 30 secs in NASL). Also, pretty funny post :>

matjlav

Germany2435 Posts

April 20 2011 13:35 GMT

#23

On April 20 2011 22:29 Rabbitmaster wrote:

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I agree with this. I don't mind casters using the word rape at all, but i do mind repetition (see gretorps "HUUUUUGE" ever 30 secs in NASL). Also, pretty funny post :>

and it's a pet peeve of mine whenever a one-sided game spawns a series of posts in an LR thread that all just say "rape" "lol rape" "omg rape haha" "raaaaape" etc...

IskatuMesk

Canada969 Posts

April 20 2011 13:52 GMT

#24

If I was worried about offending people over the internet I don't think I would have been posting on forums, much less uploading videos. You won't find a person with a more crude sense of humor than me very easily. Incidentally, I've never had a single person complain about such vocabulary.

I think it would be more clever to find extremely obscure euphemisms for words out there in a Problem Sleuth manner, but as my English is terrible, I haven't been able to incorporate very many into my casting yet.

mike1290

United States88 Posts

April 20 2011 14:14 GMT

#25

On April 20 2011 21:56 Battleaxe wrote:
As gamers, we should coin the new term "gamerape". This would allow for all gamers to use the term rape in it's gamer defined fashion while also appeasing those who may be offended by it!

I will say though, on day 1 of NASL I believe Gretorp used the word rape several times during the telecast, if not rape then definitely another word that had me thinking "man, that's really not a great word for a 'professional' caster to be using". I'm fine with the use of the word in gaming, however if it's something that's going to be viewed by more 5k people, I'd tend to say watching the language would be the smartest course of action

edit: I has bad english in the morning

If you are not listening to closely or paying close attention, "gamerape" almost sounds like "gang rape" and I think this might be even worse...

chocopan

Japan986 Posts

April 20 2011 14:16 GMT

#26

I'm the sort of person who probably would have been offended by the word rape being used originally; but now I've heard it so often in a gaming context I have become desensitized and don't really think about it any more. In my head, rape used in gaming has no relation to the crime, it's like in my head they have become two different words with the same pronunciation, if that makes sense.

Having said that though, I don't use the word in that way myself; and I can certainly understand why some people would be upset by it. I rather suspect (though I have no way of knowing) that the boys who use the word to describe games haven't been raped.

If I was running a casting thing, I would probably suggest my casters didn't use the term, in the same way I would suggest they not swear. Ie. not sackable offense but needless.

Nokarot

United States1410 Posts

April 20 2011 14:41 GMT

#27

Use of certain words always depends on the context and audience used in front of. You can call a friend an idiot and get a laugh or call a stranger an idiot and get punched in the face.

My group of friends in Ventrilo replaced the word 'rape' with 'butterfly'. Doesn't mean that we consider rape a joke, but that we as human beings recognize that some people take the word (as opposed to the action) rape too seriously, so we PG-13'd it.

Now, if we're talking about actual no-kidding rapists in a context that implies some level of serious discussion, obviously it isn't a joking matter.

RageOverdose

United States690 Posts

April 20 2011 14:57 GMT

#28

It's amazing to see serious discussion that is seemingly oblivious of the joke justification for using the word "rape" in SC2 casting. I mean, usually the serious discussion would follow about the tact of the OP.

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I guess this is why they say you should have something to really grab a reader's/viewer's attention early on in something, otherwise they just don't pay attention.

Gretorp

United States586 Posts

April 20 2011 16:43 GMT

#29

I most certainly did not.

Back in the brood war days, I made a strong effort never to say rape, gay, or faggot in anything I do. I said to everyone that instead of rape you should say bop, and that's where I got bop clowns. Please don't spread stupid rumors that I said that because it is without a doubt untrue. I wouldn't say anything like that as it hasn't been part of my vocabulary for a very long time. Thank you.

qrs

United States3637 Posts

April 20 2011 17:03 GMT

#30

LOL. "Deflower", anyone?

bonifaceviii

Canada2890 Posts

April 20 2011 17:04 GMT

#31

I prefer "ravage".

Yes I do have a rod up my ass, why do you ask?

Sm3agol

United States2055 Posts

April 20 2011 17:25 GMT

#32

I'm a proponent of "forceful plundering of an unwilling participant's nether regions" myself.

PassiveAce

United States18076 Posts

April 20 2011 17:26 GMT

#33

I cant tell if your being serious or just extremely sarcastic. I hope its the Latter.

I'm not a fan of using that word in relation to Video Games, I don't ever use it. It just brings up very negative connotations to me and I think its another symptom of the desensitization to violence that comes with video games. Lots of my friends use it often, but I don't berate them for it or anything.

I hope that it gets phased out over time, I really don't like hearing it. It doesn't provide any actual information or content except to say that one person is winning.

I think most people use words like this either because all their friends use it or because they aren't clever enough to come up with a better description of what happened.

-Frog-

United States514 Posts

April 20 2011 18:38 GMT

#34

It's just incredibly unprofessional and turns away potential sponsors who may be watching the cast. It doesn't get much more simple than that.

SageFantasma

United States383 Posts

April 20 2011 19:21 GMT

#35

Personally, whether the OP was being sarcastic or not(if he was, it was not obvious at ALL), I think this is being discussed way more than it actually needs to.

I view the term rape in it's common gaming usage the same way I do vulgar language; there is nothing wrong with saying the words if you don't have a bad intention behind them or are just throwing it around playfully, but you can't just go around screaming it to the world. No matter what you do, people will get offended. Fuck, shit, bitch, etc. are all fine if you're around friends who you know are okay with these terms. The same goes for rape.

Casters don't often use vulgar language to avoid offending people, and for good reason! Why would you want to turn away speculative viewers and followers of the community? As such, rape should be with those terms.

Not to mention, its just a lazy, uncreative way to get your point across. I think I've covered my point.

kNightLite

United States408 Posts

April 20 2011 21:30 GMT

#36

I dunno, really the only word in gamer lingo that offends me is "rape" and I'm a guy. I think the main reason why is because "raped" is often used as a positive adjective in the SC2 scene instead of a negative one. (Much more often than the use of "fucked" which is kinda in the same ballpark)

So "I raped him" bothers me but "He raped me" doesn't. Or "man, player X is so good he totally raped player Y" instead of "wow that wasn't even close, player Y just got raped"

Another problem is that the SC2 scene is already sooo heavily male dominated that its easy to misinterpret its use as sexist. I know most gamers intend to use it as just another synomnyn of "destroy" "crush" "kill" "own" etc, however thats difficult for people not familiar with the scene to understand.

Slaughter

United States20255 Posts

April 20 2011 22:00 GMT

#37

IMO if ESports ever wants to go mainstream it will have to drop language like that from the vocab at professional events from casters/commentators/players. Thats just the way it is for the greater society. That being said I have no problem with it.

vinykk

19 Posts

April 21 2011 13:07 GMT

#38

If it's on forums and ladder matches, it's fine.
At the highest level, competition should be professional, and polite. E-Sports is not going to grow if such words are used.

OopsOopsBaby

Singapore3425 Posts

April 21 2011 13:21 GMT

#39

lol. did anyone actually read his last line.