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United States22883 Posts
You are a brave man.  You've got my respect for that.
1) Feedback on how I work with the other casters.
I think this might be your weakest point. I've definitely enjoyed your recent PAX/TSL casts, but the one issue here is the periods of speaking. To be fair, Chill does this too, so at times you both sort of crowd out the co-caster. Your style of play-by-play is perfectly fine, but I think you could take a page out of Wheat's book and integrate your co-caster into this a bit more, especially if you've got an analyst like Day9/Chill working with you. More questions, more responding to what they say and most of all, switching off on the descriptions/casting. The last part is the most important, but it's something you can't fix alone. It's just a teamwork thing and you and the partner have to get comfortable with it.
To make a 2v2 analogy, it's like the difference between two players who do their own thing and two players who plan their entire strategy/unit comp around each other. They may still choose the same targets and attack at the same time, but their play isn't really refined to compliment each other ie. sentries helping out banelings, vikings protecting collosi, etc.
2) Feedback on what you like and what you cringe at every time I do it.
There has been nothing cringeworthy for me, so far, and I don't think you've said anything patently false or anything like that. In fact, you're usually on top of what's going on around the map, such as today when you caught the Forge getting killed before Armor could finish. Again, I think just better integration with your partner and perhaps a tad slower talking. You're nowhere near Klaz speeds, so it's not that much of an issue.
3) Any recommendations/suggestions you have for making the cast more enjoyable for you.
One thing I think the TSL in general has been lacking is data. Information on the players, what their matchups are like, what their map statistics are like and what their style is like on different maps. That's all prep work before hand. Checking TLPD and watching their replays. Even Day9/Artosis will talk about recent trends, but they won't usually talk about what a specific player has been doing recently.
4) How do you feel watching the LiveStream vs VODs. During a LIVE event are you finding yourself excited or frustrated?
I think the live streams have been fine. There's probably a smidge less excitement with a VOD but there's nothing you can do about it. I guess the one thing I'd add, especially with regards to your older VODs, is that it's one thing to cast a tournament and it's completely different to cast a random game out a replay pack. Even though the tournament gameplay might not be as good as the handpicked replay, it's still more important because there's consequences. I think casters forget about that and just go for the good action, even though it's a meaningless practice game.
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More *take note* and fast talking. Your strength is the ability to entertain people husky! I also like when you point out the most RANDOM things ever. Ex. Pylo, two overlords, ramp 25.
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What I am going to say isn't really going to be lengthy because I suck at really talking about the good points and bad points of something, in this case someone. So, basically, your casting is good. I have been a fan since beta and I like your casting for the entertainment value. You pretty much know that you might have to learn some more about the game but I couldn't really care tbh. You are good as you are. Keep it up. One thing though, in solo casts, you usually talk a lot, well a lot of WPM, in duo casts, it would be better if you slow down etc. Otherwise really good casting!
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I haven't watched or listened to your youtube commentaries in a long long long time, but what I can say about your TSL casting is that you really do flow well with the other casters, you tend to overuse a few buzz words but I'm assuming that is part of your style, other than that I think it was when you were casting with djWHEAT where there was a little tlaking over each other but nothing that has become a regular issue nor a glaring problem.
Good job overall, I can't complain and all of TSL has been enjoyable so far. It's not like there are any times where I say DAMNIT THEY SHOULD HAVE REPLACED _______ WITH _________
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United States713 Posts
On April 11 2011 06:36 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 06:34 OmniscientSC2 wrote:
I think you've really improved in these past few months as far as game knowledge. I just feel that a few of your statements may be a bit misguided (usually only fixable through more game play, but you're pretty busy :O) It really annoys me when TSL casters don't have their replays lined up though >< Viewers can't get excited merely through great play, It also takes energy from a caster. Extremely hard to become excited when a caster's energy kicks in a few seconds after the action has already started/ is finished. Maybe try giving each other audio hints as to where you are in the game and slow/down speed up your replays accordingly? We have a program that tells us if our replays are synced or not.
What program is this? Sounds pretty convenient!
Even if the replays are synced though, the casting can be a bit behind. I'm not sure what the cause is, but it's pretty annoying ><
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You tend to talk too fast so you always seem like you are out of breath. Try to slow down just a tad!
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I have a huge respect for your casting abilities. You are both entertaining and good at spoting important things.
I feel everything that anyone could say about your casting has already been said above.
So I just want to support you with my post. The one thing that I can contribute in this discussion is that even though you might be speaking very fast at times I have no problems understanding you - and English is only my second language.
Very good job and I enjoy you casting very much! GG GL HF, Husky!
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You had a lot of energy!
Therefore, when I feedback'd you, you died.
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As you said yourself you are not that good at being a analytical caster. Thats exactly the reason why i like it when you cast with someone like Day[9] or Chill.
I think you somehow became a really good caster, and if you follow the advice, that a lot of people in here have already given you have a bright future ahead of you
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On April 11 2011 06:01 iGrok wrote:
gotta say, I was really impressed by your PAX casting. Your TSL casting has been pretty good as well.
One thing that would be awesome imo is if you started casting like Klazart (500 wpm). I think it'd fit your fun style, and you'd be able to "trip balls" during games.
lol
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It is really good, i was a bit (spectacle isn't the right word but idk) but you really are doing a great job and i really do like your casts especially the TSL and the pax thing so good job. As for improvement i just think it will come with time i mean for the most part this is probolly some of your first times casting with some of these people so it can be kind of stressful for you in the begining but i have to say you are doing a really good job. I especially like the husky/chill combo as well i think your style goes best with chill =D
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I think you're best when paired with a more analytical caster, like Day9/Chill. It balances out well, like Tastosis. And sometimes I can tell you're used to casting alone when you talk for a long time before your partner can speak. Other than that, good stuff.
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It's a bit disjointing when you talk twice as fast as your co-caster but the pace of the game has remained completely stable. That and I would just suggest more variety in the way you say things. For instance hearing that you are super excited and unable to wait to start games, there's nothing wrong with that obviously but when its said before every single game in the exact same manner I think it just becomes natural to want to sort of filter out what you are saying
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Umm, ok - since you asked for it.
You cast too much Starcraft and watch too little Starcraft.
You're already a good caster and the traditional caster pair is the "announcer" and the "expert". When you cast with Wheat, it's a nightmare. None of you:
1. Speculate as to what will happen next and if you do you're wrong or Cpt. Obvious's.
2. Analyze plays and if you do, you interrupt it to say stuff like "as this robo bay goes down".
3. Make references to other games by the same player - for all the replays you've casted you very seldom refer to plays & strats as indicative of a players style unless it's "A is known for his X play" - common knowledge which is fine for the new players to mention briefly, but this should be limited to the talk before and between games, if player A has a certain way of defending 4gate which he's used before and the theory behind this has been talked about on SotG or somewhere else - that's what you should be talking about as it's being executed in-game.
All in all - if you want to evolve your casting, try to become an expert. If you manage to always cast games alongside an export - you're fine. It's not your fault basically, whoever thought Husky + Wheat would work was just a little crazy. Remember the GSL casters when Blizzcon occupied Tastosis? Jason Lee was great, but imagine two Jason Lee's and you have yourself + Wheat. Even Idra - a man of few words - filled the expert roll perfectly and really complemented Jason: the two became a great duo. TL should have just realized this and brought in any pro player not in the tournament as a second caster for you and Wheat. Any of the streamers would have been fine, like Response or whoever. Someone who knows the importance and impact of some seemingly subtle decisions.
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You're definitely improving. When there's a lot of action going on, if I were you I'd try to cut down on the amount of things you try to note to just the important stuff, and say it a little more slowly. I think it's actually extremely tough to be good at play by play and you have a long way to go but you're not worse than most people in that respect. Try to mix up your phrasing and word usage more as well and you'll be set.
As it stands I give you a pass. I have no real problem watching TSL games with you casting.
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On April 11 2011 07:28 Munk-E wrote:
You had a lot of energy!
Therefore, when I feedback'd you, you died.
haha awesome
husky i think you're good but sometimes you talk a lot and really fast.
talking really fast is ok in my book but sometimes you just go on and on, actually its pretty impressive that you can do it without breathing.
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On April 11 2011 06:40 Jibba wrote:You are a brave man. You've got my respect for that. 1) Feedback on how I work with the other casters.I think this might be your weakest point. I've definitely enjoyed your recent PAX/TSL casts, but the one issue here is the periods of speaking. To be fair, Chill does this too, so at times you both sort of crowd out the co-caster. Your style of play-by-play is perfectly fine, but I think you could take a page out of Wheat's book and integrate your co-caster into this a bit more, especially if you've got an analyst like Day9/Chill working with you. More questions, more responding to what they say and most of all, switching off on the descriptions/casting. The last part is the most important, but it's something you can't fix alone. It's just a teamwork thing and you and the partner have to get comfortable with it. To make a 2v2 analogy, it's like the difference between two players who do their own thing and two players who plan their entire strategy/unit comp around each other. They may still choose the same targets and attack at the same time, but their play isn't really refined to compliment each other ie. sentries helping out banelings, vikings protecting collosi, etc. 2) Feedback on what you like and what you cringe at every time I do it.There has been nothing cringeworthy for me, so far, and I don't think you've said anything patently false or anything like that. In fact, you're usually on top of what's going on around the map, such as today when you caught the Forge getting killed before Armor could finish. Again, I think just better integration with your partner and perhaps a tad slower talking. You're nowhere near Klaz speeds, so it's not that much of an issue. 3) Any recommendations/suggestions you have for making the cast more enjoyable for you.One thing I think the TSL in general has been lacking is data. Information on the players, what their matchups are like, what their map statistics are like and what their style is like on different maps. That's all prep work before hand. Checking TLPD and watching their replays. Even Day9/Artosis will talk about recent trends, but they won't usually talk about what a specific player has been doing recently. 4) How do you feel watching the LiveStream vs VODs. During a LIVE event are you finding yourself excited or frustrated?I think the live streams have been fine. There's probably a smidge less excitement with a VOD but there's nothing you can do about it. I guess the one thing I'd add, especially with regards to your older VODs, is that it's one thing to cast a tournament and it's completely different to cast a random game out a replay pack. Even though the tournament gameplay might not be as good as the handpicked replay, it's still more important because there's consequences. I think casters forget about that and just go for the good action, even though it's a meaningless practice game.
Thanks for this.
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You talk a lot and really fast and the stuff you talk about seems to be a bit pointless at times.
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1) Feedback on how I work with the other casters.
-I think you working with the other casters is a great thing. It really brings more appeal to you especially when you work with people who are more about all the tactics, strategy, and really go in depth (like day9 can do and will in pro replays) because while you are knowledgable about the game, your energy complements their knowledge very well. You definatly have got some good insights and views on the game yourself but what makes me remember your casts is the energy and enjoyment you get from casting the game.
2) Feedback on what you like and what you cringe at every time I do it.
- Allright so this is my opinion personally, but what I do and don't like is your energy in casts. I think when you are by yourself especially you will sometimes try to hard to be that upbeat, happy go lucky guy who wants everyone to like him and remember him. I feel like you need to use that energy and enthusiasm (I apologize I probably spelled that wrong) but keep it to a point where it is fun but not to the point where it reminds me of an annoying little child bouncing off the walls and annoying me because he is too hyper. In my opinion you have already done a great deal of that and really made the casts less like that annoying little kid energy into a good energy that makes people interested. Really what I was comparing that to was more of your early casts but still that is what makes it and breaks it for me. Again it's only my opinion i'm sure not everyone feels this way.
3) Any recommendations/suggestions you have for making the cast more enjoyable for you.
- Like I said in number 2 just keep the energy down but not completely out of the picture. Find a good balance between informative and fun.
4) How do you feel watching the LiveStream vs VODs. During a LIVE event are you finding yourself excited or frustrated?
- I suppose for me it really depends on the event. I somewhat like livestreamed events of big tournaments (MLG, TSL, etc.) just because there is alot on the line and new strategies will pop up for the first time in games like these and you get a comentators perspective on it right as they are seeing it. VODs are nice but I think just the knowledge that you are seeing it for the first time and as it happens makes livestreams better for me.
Hope this helps and if I answered the questions in a way that you had not intended me to I apologize. Best of luck to you
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Even though you don't want to be analytical, you still should have lots of knowledge about the game, like standard openings, unit compositions (or combinations as you call it :p), attack timings, why ppl made certain decisions etc. Then, telling who is in a better position will get easier. Look at Nestea vs Goody for example, where some wrong stuffs were said.
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