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101TFP
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
420 Posts
April 12 2011 06:39 GMT
#61
First, I really like your style of casting, energy and insight keep a good balance there.

But to add something that hasn't been said, I cringe every time you misuse a word.

For example, you always say utilize instead of use. People usually do this just to sound smart, but these words have different meanings.
Utilize means to use something for other than its intended purpose. If a player uses a command center to scout, you could say either "he uses the cc to scout" or "he utilizes the cc to scout".
But if a player uses a baracks to produce marines, you can not say "he utilizes the barracks to make marines". It's just wrong. ;P

Otherwise thanks for the great casts, looking forward to more
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
April 12 2011 07:07 GMT
#62
I really enjoy your casting with Chill. Both of you are funny and have pretty good chemistry. I particularly like that you are both enthusiastic the entire game and I think you complent each other well. That said you do need to let chill talk a bit more but as others have said that will come with time working with a cocaster. Keep up the great work.
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Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 10:36:32
April 12 2011 10:29 GMT
#63
Wow. Really awesome to see all the insult-free constructive criticism in this thread

Even though you do not regard yourself as an 'analytical' caster, you still do some analysis and so it's important to get that analysis right. Basically, make the analysis that you do do is accurate.

Apart from that, everyone else has said what needs to be said. Keep up the good work
levelping
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore759 Posts
April 12 2011 10:56 GMT
#64
I like your fun style, but like others say having some basic analysis is necessary. Like calling a 3gate expand a 3 gate expand and not a 4 gate all in - these kind of things tend to be glaring. It's also important since you won't always be co-casting with day9, and so should not count on the "other person" to bring the analysis.

So far you've made most of your calls rights so props for that =).
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 12:25:50
April 12 2011 12:24 GMT
#65
First off, props for making a thread like this - not many people have the balls to do that.

Most of the things I would address here have already been said, but there is a very specific thing that bugged me when watching some of the games over the weekend:

When you start describing what's happening at the moment, especially when both players are busy building their base and macroing during the mid-game stages, you often times say a bunch of things ("x is being built y is being researched z is being added") without ever

a) making pauses between the stuff you list up, which makes it hard to listen to it
b) having any connection/transition between them and not bringing up the reasoning behind them either.

Especially the second fact made me cringe more than once because it's hard for the experienced watcher/player to listen to commentary like that because he sees the reasoning behind the player's actions while you just list stuff you see, and also the newbies will have a very hard time following if you don't even basically explain what's going on in the players' heads at the moment.

So the overall suggestion is, just pace it down a little bit, especially when the game is rather slow-paced as well, and if you don't feel comfortable explaining stuff then just hand that to your cocaster by making some conversation about the follow-ups and thoughts the players probably have right now.

Keep it up



edit:
On April 11 2011 06:36 Chill wrote:
We have a program that tells us if our replays are synced or not.


i want to have that!!! :o
@nowSimon
mintiefresh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada52 Posts
April 12 2011 16:09 GMT
#66
I have enjoyed your casts for awhile. There are a few things I think you could work on, although most of which has already been said.

Perhaps a good idea might be to watch other commentators from anywhere... let's say just turn on a basketball game and watch them commentate... you're a really strong play-by-play style commentator... you also have enough knowledge of the game to hold your own...however you are definitely not the analyst out of a pair (say you're with Day9 or Chill). Most people here are saying you should let the other person talk a little bit, as you sometimes have a habit to go off on a tangent. I think a great way to do this would be just to ask questions... I see NBA commentators (granted they're not the best) do this all the time and it allows for a good synergy between to 2 of you.


Otherwise I think you've done a good job. Keep up the great work and glad to see you're looking to always improve. Props for that.
mintiefresh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada52 Posts
April 12 2011 16:13 GMT
#67
Sorry, I just had a thought I'd follow up my last post with is... say in the beginning you see a guy get only a single gas or double gas..or no gas..rather than try to expalin it yourself.. you can describe what's happening and then ask your co-castor (analyst -- day9/chill) what these openings could mean? ...rather than just explaining yourself (which you are capable of doing.)... but this way you both fill your roles much better. You can also follow up his analysis with some background info on the players (oh yes Chill, X player loves to go with this kind of opening as demonstrated in...)..


anyways my .02. keep up the good work.
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 18:06:33
April 12 2011 17:27 GMT
#68
I like your casting style, but I do have 2 things that have been pointed out already:

1. A little to much energy. Not a bad thing, but sometimes you convert that into volume (not super loud) but loud enough to drown your co-caster.

Which brings me to number two:

2. Better teamwork with your co-caster. Bring him into a conversation more, and also make sure he is comfortable to speak (i.e. don't muscle him out).

Other than that, I love the energy you bring into the cast, it matches up when you're paired with Day9 and Chill.

PS. Banelings vid on Dreamhack stream? Awesome.
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waferjuice
Profile Joined April 2011
38 Posts
April 12 2011 17:32 GMT
#69
and lastly you should do a cast with HD :D just for fun. dont need it to be for a tournament or what not
Flytrapz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 18:02:53
April 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#70
Hey Husky, I really enjoy your casts, and I enjoy them most when you're paired with someone analytical, like day[9]. I don't recall you being particularly guilty of this crime, but my number one pet peeve of casters are casters who try for basic analysis and get it completely wrong. HD is the number one perpetrator of this: in an attempt to fill content he'll say "wow, he's getting a tech lab on his factory, he's probably going for fast tanks...I don't know how much I like that" and I'm pulling my hair out screaming "NO, HE'S GOING TO DROP IT ON THE BARRACK'S REACTOR AND GO HELLION BANSHEE! DUH!" Like, I suck at this game, and when I know more about it than the caster it drives me up the wall. That's why I love day[9] - even when he's just tournament casting he always tells me something I don't already know.

What I'd like to hear more of in the down time between battles is more of an interview style with analytical casters. I'm obviously not the first commenter to mention this. I'd like to hear "I see X, what to people usually do in response?" "What are the options for player Y right now?" "What would happen if his opponent tries Z?"

Getting psyched is great when there's something going on, but I'm with everyone else in wanting substance in the filler time, rather than just recitations of build orders.

P.S: I liked your "banelings" rap. Sweet vid.
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
April 12 2011 18:18 GMT
#71
I have to agree with what a few otehr people have said and say you are best with Day 9 or Chill. You and DJ Wheat don't seem to have nearly as much chemistry as the other 2 combo's. Sorry I can't be more specific, that's just how I feel off the top of my head.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
April 12 2011 18:27 GMT
#72
Husky, you call battles much too early and sometimes by the end of said battles it makes you look silly.

There are other ways to talk about a big fight other than describing who looks like they're going to come out on top of it right when it starts.

Otherwise, what's been mentioned above about giving your other casters an appropriate "in". Keep it up Husky!
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Mabilis
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States162 Posts
April 13 2011 00:30 GMT
#73
Keep up the good work, Husky! You should definitely drop in random lines from "Baby Got Back" while you're casting. I love that song.
"Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in." -- Evan Davis
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
April 13 2011 19:11 GMT
#74
Thanks for the feedback everybody!
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
TheloniousMonk
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 22:02:30
April 13 2011 21:24 GMT
#75
On April 11 2011 05:55 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Please keep in mind my style of casting is NOT super analytical. It never has been, it never will be, and is simply not my style of casting games. I see myself as flavor to a cast and am just there to have fun/trip balls when exciting things happen.

So you basically don't want to put in any hard work to become a good caster? It's such a shame because you have such a large fan following, and I feel if you took the time to improve your game knowledge you'd be a great caster. Whether that means watching extra replays in your free time where you don't cast, finding top players to discuss it with, or just playing customs and ladder to improve understanding of the game you'd be better. In terms of communications, there is really nothing wrong with the way you cast other than the fact that you say things that are simply wrong or don't make sense. The reason Artosis is so popular is because he basically gives his life to the game. He has great knowledge, is highly skilled and discusses the game with alot of the top players.

Now, obviously you don't have to do anything nearly as ridiculous as that. But just taking the time out to improve your knowledge to provide a better cast for the viewers I think is not something selfish or brash to ask for at all. Just because you might not want to be an analytical caster doesn't mean there's nothing to be gained from learning a bit more and you can still maintain a play-by-play style and couple it up with greater insight.

PS: By game knowledge I don't mean just balance, but maybe a bit about the players, current game trends etc.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 13 2011 21:56 GMT
#76
Props for making a thread like this, other casters should do the same.

Overall there hasn't been much data represented on players and the overall feeling of preparedness by the casters seems low for how great everything else is in TSL3 by comparison. Don't take this personally, I think the casting is the most lacking part of the TSL3 anyway. Also a little thing that bothered me is calling players from the same team the same name even though they sound nothing alike aka thorzain and nightend. Casters confuse names or players or even units all the time but its really refreshing to hear them go back and correct themselves at the very least. Again, a small problem.

As an individual if you just cut back on talking so fast/often I would have nothing big to complain about. The cringe moments happen when you can tell the other caster is trying to talk or put in the analytical comments that you cannot, as you have admitted, but they can't get a word in because right after your 8 sentence comment is finished a battle starts and you just go for another 4-5 sentences. Maybe this is your natural talking style but if you cut about half of what you say and how fast you say it you'd have a lot of new regular fans. You could fix this by maybe just asking them what they think about a certain situation more often. The TSL is a huge opportunity for you to gain even more fans.
Fulla
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom519 Posts
April 16 2011 10:22 GMT
#77
Hi Husky,

Any chance of you doing a cast for the custom maps Blizzard features every few months?

They just recently featured 2 new map on the NA realm!

Thanks.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
April 16 2011 10:26 GMT
#78
*looks at puppy*

*rates 5*

so far you are doing a great job Husky, i'm really impressed by your improvements
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
senor_gomez
Profile Joined June 2010
United States162 Posts
April 16 2011 13:24 GMT
#79
Follow the observer camera (hotbid's cam?) during TSL casts so you can commentate on what the audience is actually seeing. And the observer is really good at spotting stuff. Maybe just switch to his cam once every 30 seconds or something.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
April 16 2011 15:12 GMT
#80
I think you've improved a lot overall. The worst combination so far is probably you with djwheat just because I think your styles are kind of similar (though I think you take on a more analytical role then).

The only criticism I have for you specifically is that you sometimes speak for too long and unintentionally don't let the other casters in. I like the machine gun speak, that's hilarious and exciting (especially in your solo casts) but it could perhaps have a better flow with co-casting.
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