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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 07 2011 13:38 GMT
#1
I was a c- toss in bw. I haven't touched either game in about a year. I started actually playing sc2 about a week ago. And by actually playing, I mean, i stopped offracing and went back to toss. 40 games later and I've gone from silver to high plat. I'm awful at this game, my macro is bad and i don't even know any builds. I'm just randomly picking a unit, getting it as fast as possible, then attacking at random times.

Are people just really bad in diamond/plat tiers? I just played a game where i was going to dt rush. My opponent 2 rax'd at his natural and made 2 marines. I attacked with one zealot. Cross map. He dies, somehow. My single zealot kills 2 marines and 3 scvs as the guy was trying to FE? He then taps out even though I wasn't sending any more units to his base...


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goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
April 07 2011 13:44 GMT
#2
On April 07 2011 22:38 Nevuk wrote:
I was a c- toss in bw. I haven't touched either game in about a year. I started actually playing sc2 about a week ago. And by actually playing, I mean, i stopped offracing and went back to toss. 40 games later and I've gone from silver to high plat. I'm awful at this game, my macro is bad and i don't even know any builds. I'm just randomly picking a unit, getting it as fast as possible, then attacking at random times.

Are people just really bad in diamond/plat tiers? I just played a game where i was going to dt rush. My opponent 2 rax'd at his natural and made 2 marines. I attacked with one zealot. Cross map. He dies, somehow. My single zealot kills 2 marines and 3 scvs as the guy was trying to FE? He then taps out even though I wasn't sending any more units to his base...


Yes, people really are that bad.

Welcome to SC2
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
April 07 2011 13:46 GMT
#3
yeah.. sc2 isn't high level. If you was a c-, you could easily get diamond without knowing much about the game
n_n
FFTiDe
Profile Joined April 2011
28 Posts
April 07 2011 13:51 GMT
#4
d level in bw is like high diamond in sc2 -,.- you will get masters soon imo
GG
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
April 07 2011 13:55 GMT
#5
I was a C- toss in BW and got to Plat in the beta easy and Diamond once that was available. Still trying for masters

Anyways, your C- mechanics should be enough to get you to diamond easy. Just play a bit more and you should do fine. SC2 is BW with oblivion minus the maphack lol
FFTiDe
Profile Joined April 2011
28 Posts
April 07 2011 14:08 GMT
#6
On April 07 2011 22:55 o3.power91 wrote:
I was a C- toss in BW and got to Plat in the beta easy and Diamond once that was available. Still trying for masters

Anyways, your C- mechanics should be enough to get you to diamond easy. Just play a bit more and you should do fine. SC2 is BW with oblivion minus the maphack lol



I was d, barely d+ in bw and i can beat high diamonds easily (am mid masters now), dunno but maybe you don't put in enough effort or you just don't have the same mindset you had in bw for c- ? Hope you get in masters soon~~ ^^
GG
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 07 2011 14:08 GMT
#7
Being below masters is D territory
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
April 07 2011 14:17 GMT
#8
If you're below masters.. there's not much to say
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 07 2011 14:22 GMT
#9
On April 07 2011 23:17 Zoler wrote:
If you're below masters.. there's not much to say


Pretty much this. If you translate what you did to get to C- on Iccup then you'll be masters no problem. I was C- on iccup aswell and never anything but the highest league (except grandmaster)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 07 2011 14:36 GMT
#10
Ok, I was just wondering about that. Games are hilarious at this level, especially when I get rage. I just played a pvz where I went dts, was scouted, went dts anyways, killed nothing, and then just sat around and denied his 3rd /4th over and over with dts while taking a 3rd+4th, then taking a 5th+6th whenever i thought he had his fourth.

I continually suicide into his army over and over with fail storms and grouping, etc. So I can understand why he was annoyed when he lost.

Warp prism harass is pretty awesome, especially if you never give them a reason to make air (ie skip colossus) in pvz. Just fly off the side, find somewhere in their base not covered, warp in 4 zealots or dts and kill some tech building, fly away. (Granted, this shouldn't ever work vs a competent opponent). I hate collosus and immortals, robo tech is incredibly boring.
Also, archons are still awesome, glad to see they aren't as shitty as they were in beta.

Some fun screenshots from that game
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So this is the last fight.... my army looks a bit small
[image loading]
But there are storms. Getting 20+ templar can be pretty funny.
[image loading]
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Just 2+ constant seconds of storm on everything.
[image loading]
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BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
April 07 2011 14:42 GMT
#11
"ur so bad it's sickening how are u still here" - Says the guy with 4.3k mins and 1.5k gas at 100 supply.

Yea if you were C- you should be able to get into masters without too much effort.
There was once a dream that was Esports. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... Now is the time to make that dream a reality!
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
April 07 2011 14:42 GMT
#12
^ lol gotta love those people.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
April 07 2011 14:44 GMT
#13
I was C+ in BW and I've always been in the top league even though I barely play at all. People are pretty bad below the top fourth of the masters league.

I mean, it's fairly easy to get to low masters without BO or timings like I did. I'm pretty sure that if I played more, I'd easily get fairly high rated although I consider myself to be a fairly bad player.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 07 2011 15:04 GMT
#14
good blog just for that storm screenshots lol

gave me a good laugh
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 15:22:09
April 07 2011 15:21 GMT
#15
On April 08 2011 00:04 rabidch wrote:
good blog just for that storm screenshots lol

gave me a good laugh

It was a solid 3-4 seconds of storms blanketed on top of each other. I love storms
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10807 Posts
April 07 2011 17:06 GMT
#16
lol, That must be one of Combat-EX's students. funny screenshots :-P
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
April 07 2011 19:01 GMT
#17
C- iccup is ez high diamond, and once you learn masters.

i was C- and im master ez, especially with protoss
Jaedong :3
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
April 07 2011 23:51 GMT
#18
On April 07 2011 23:36 Nevuk wrote:
Ok, I was just wondering about that. Games are hilarious at this level, especially when I get rage. I just played a pvz where I went dts, was scouted, went dts anyways, killed nothing, and then just sat around and denied his 3rd /4th over and over with dts while taking a 3rd+4th, then taking a 5th+6th whenever i thought he had his fourth.

I continually suicide into his army over and over with fail storms and grouping, etc. So I can understand why he was annoyed when he lost.

Warp prism harass is pretty awesome, especially if you never give them a reason to make air (ie skip colossus) in pvz. Just fly off the side, find somewhere in their base not covered, warp in 4 zealots or dts and kill some tech building, fly away. (Granted, this shouldn't ever work vs a competent opponent). I hate collosus and immortals, robo tech is incredibly boring.
Also, archons are still awesome, glad to see they aren't as shitty as they were in beta.

Some fun screenshots from that game
[image loading]
So this is the last fight.... my army looks a bit small
[image loading]
But there are storms. Getting 20+ templar can be pretty funny.
[image loading]
[image loading]
Just 2+ constant seconds of storm on everything.
[image loading]
[image loading]


This guy related to CombatEX by chance? But in all seriousness, if you were c- bw then you should be diamond easy.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
April 08 2011 08:51 GMT
#19
On April 07 2011 23:08 FFTiDe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 22:55 o3.power91 wrote:
I was a C- toss in BW and got to Plat in the beta easy and Diamond once that was available. Still trying for masters

Anyways, your C- mechanics should be enough to get you to diamond easy. Just play a bit more and you should do fine. SC2 is BW with oblivion minus the maphack lol



I was d, barely d+ in bw and i can beat high diamonds easily (am mid masters now), dunno but maybe you don't put in enough effort or you just don't have the same mindset you had in bw for c- ? Hope you get in masters soon~~ ^^

Yeah it's the effort that's the problem. I have terrible time management and I want to focus on school for now so I haven't been focusing on my play lately. Hopefully I can force myself into Masters in the summer
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 08 2011 09:27 GMT
#20
There are people who are decent in higher ranks. Diamond is very low level, think of it like D+. SC2 is sorta like BW skill-wise except imagine they tacked on 450,000 dudes who have never actually heard of Team Liquid and don't know what a build order is and those guys are filling up bronze to plat.
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