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XTraumaX

United States27 Posts

March 28 2011 09:44 GMT

So im starting to get better and faster at doing the 4gate for Protoss.

Ive just been doing the build order against very easy and easy AI to get the hang of doing the build and so i can focus more on not being supply blocked and other things like that. I changed my hotkeys to grid too that way i can get all i need faster without having to move my hand alot so i have to get used to those too.

Beat the AI both times of course and I did better the second time i did it so hopefully after 3 or 4 more practice matches against easy ai go up against harder AI so that i can find out where i need to improve.

Also interested in seeing what i should do if my opponent counters the 4gate but seeing as im going to be in bronze i dont think ill have to worry too much about counters at that level.

AllNight

Netherlands86 Posts

March 28 2011 10:19 GMT

Please don't 4 gate all games, in the long run, you won't improve.
Good luck!

XTraumaX

United States27 Posts

March 28 2011 11:05 GMT

I dont plan to 4 gate for forever. I plan to 4gate until i either get into higher leagues or until i nail all the mechanics i need to and then ill learn other builds and such for different match ups.

ReketSomething

United States6012 Posts

March 28 2011 13:12 GMT

4 gate is a solid build to practice just in general because it helps improve overall mechanics. It doesn't really matter what build you practice as long as you are making shit and microing shit. In other words, as long as you aren't 6 pooling, going cannons into dts and voids, bunkers into cloaked banshees, or any other shenanigans, its good practice.

4 gate actually covers the bases in what you should do pretty well, as long as when you scout 5 bunkers/12 spines you transition into something else besides suicide...you are good.

good luck!

palanq

United States761 Posts

March 28 2011 13:29 GMT

the simplest advice i can think of is:
4gate (follow a liquipedia build order like this but keep building probes), attack... if you don't win, expand, and start going for colossus + gateway units. it's a good enough plan to be OK vs all races up to a certain level.

if you start having trouble with muta/banshee/terran drops you can start adding in cannons in your mineral line.

XTraumaX

United States27 Posts

March 28 2011 20:57 GMT

Thanks for the tips Reket and Palanq. Very helpful and encouraging stuff there. The Team Liquid community is nicer and more supportive than I expected

MichaelEU

Netherlands816 Posts

March 28 2011 22:10 GMT

I would recommend a 3gate expand, because a proper 4gate requires you to stop producing probes after a certain point in time. Of course, you might have trouble defending your expansion. But that's another good thing to learn and it should be doable if your mechanics are up to snuff. So you know you've done something right if you do defend an attack off.

LEEKsc

Sweden380 Posts

March 29 2011 10:43 GMT

That's a really good plan, that's what I did and I am now in masters... Sure, not top level, but still! As long as you just focus on doing a solid 4gate with probes and pylons (not the ultraquickversion, you could refine that one later on) you should be able to exit bronze quickly and fight your ways up in the leagues! GL HF

Joementum

787 Posts

March 29 2011 10:58 GMT

On March 29 2011 19:43 LEEKsc wrote:
That's a really good plan, that's what I did and I am now in masters... Sure, not top level, but still! As long as you just focus on doing a solid 4gate with probes and pylons (not the ultraquickversion, you could refine that one later on) you should be able to exit bronze quickly and fight your ways up in the leagues! GL HF

As long as you win your first 5 placement matches, which are easy as cake to win, then you'll get placed in Plat, IIRC.

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