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FODDER~
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 20:44:49
March 22 2011 20:41 GMT
#1
If any of you know of Suggy, you probably know about his live-commentary episodes of ladder games for an online series called the Starcraft Connection. What he does is say on the spot why he is doing what he does, what went wrong, what went right, etc.

But there is something I noticed:

Suggy absolutely never has a game plan ever, if anything he just asks his friends over at his house for what they want to see him do. And they often just give vague descriptions like, "Carriers!".

Suggy literally has no expectations or game plan ever going into a game ever. And I noticed he also loves cheese. Whenever he sneaks a probe in his opponents base and it goes undetected he will always go with a 4 gate opening. Always.

It just seems like Suggy plays absolutely random and completely wings every game off of game sense and experience with no idea of what he wants to do beforehand. So should I just try to drop learning standard openings altogether and just try to wing every single ladder game with no game plan and do things off of whim and spontaneous tendencies? Will I improve the fastest that way? Is that the way to play?

And Suggy, thanks for giving back to the community completely free of charge. There are a lot of grateful players out there that appreciate what you are doing (even if not enough of them give you the thanks to show it) so please keep it going and thanks again! It's a real shame Starcraft Connection doesn't get as much support as Day9 does.

I am a Diamond league Protoss player in need of any form of help that can be given. If you believe you can help please contact me. I really want to improve more than anything and just need a form of guidance and small push in the truely right direction.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
March 22 2011 20:43 GMT
#2
No, having a plan is almost always better than making it up as you go.
FODDER~
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States109 Posts
March 22 2011 20:45 GMT
#3

SnowFantasy:

No, having a plan is almost always better than making it up as you go.


Then why does Suggy prefer not having one? What does he see that we don't?
I am a Diamond league Protoss player in need of any form of help that can be given. If you believe you can help please contact me. I really want to improve more than anything and just need a form of guidance and small push in the truely right direction.
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 22 2011 20:45 GMT
#4
That's not the best way to learn the game, it's the worst.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=78677

Read. Also read Ver's How To improve.
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FODDER~
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States109 Posts
March 22 2011 20:55 GMT
#5

Turgid:

That's not the best way to learn the game, it's the worst.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=78677

Read. Also read Ver's How To improve.


I downloaded and am reading the guide however I am not so certain how much I will even be able to learn from this since I am Protoss and this is not for Starcraft 2 but thanks a lot anyways. I'll see if I can find anything useful from it.
I am a Diamond league Protoss player in need of any form of help that can be given. If you believe you can help please contact me. I really want to improve more than anything and just need a form of guidance and small push in the truely right direction.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
March 22 2011 20:55 GMT
#6
Look, I remember from your last post that you were gold.
There's a reason why Suggy can pull it off. He has the fundamentals to pull it off. He's also probably built the game sense from playing standard often enough. You don't. Build up your fundamentals, get to masters, and then you can probably pull it off. For now, the best way to learn is with a game plan.

However, if you're not looking for the best way to reach the top, do whatever the hell you want. It's a game after all. It's for fun. You can go that style; just don't expect sudden, drastic improvements.
darkness overpowering
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 22 2011 20:57 GMT
#7
Ver's How To Improve is more about mindset than gameplay. It's necessary for reading for anyone who wants to know how to get good.
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divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
March 22 2011 20:57 GMT
#8
Oh no, it's FODDER.
Skype: divito7
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 21:00:40
March 22 2011 20:57 GMT
#9
Have you EVER heard of a player preparing for a tournament?
They usually aren't preparing how to wing it
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 22 2011 21:00 GMT
#10
Do whatever is more fun for you. Some people like planning, some people like winging it. Some people like somewhere in between.

Improvement usually comes from study more than anything else, so I wouldn't worry about which way you decide to go.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 22 2011 21:30 GMT
#11
I agree with Ver's guide.
mechanics and mindset are the way to go. When he says if you want to hit B rank on ICCUP as a noob, the way to go is 2 barracks before supply (or something similar) he's not lying. However, would you be good at a game 30 minutes in? What you practice is what you will get good at. The key to being a successful player is employing a strategy that is flexible. You not only want to just survive, you want to completely obliterate your opponents force without sacrificing any of your economy or economic growth. You must find the proper balance, and whether that is by going ok CC at 15, etc, etc, by the numbers, or by being flexible and spending your money asap on whatever floats your boat, that is up to you.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
March 22 2011 21:47 GMT
#12
On March 23 2011 05:45 FODDER~ wrote:
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SnowFantasy:

No, having a plan is almost always better than making it up as you go.


Then why does Suggy prefer not having one? What does he see that we don't?

He doesn't see anything, many top players dont care about ladder.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
March 22 2011 23:00 GMT
#13
Pokebunny he gonna need a plan to beat u amirite?
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-22 23:16:31
March 22 2011 23:15 GMT
#14
I got to diamond both in beta and after release with absolutely no game play besides the first 2-3 mins of the game. And i gotta say it works for me. But then im no where near pro level so i don't know i suppose.
'
God is dead.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
March 22 2011 23:29 GMT
#15
On March 23 2011 05:45 FODDER~ wrote:
Show nested quote +

SnowFantasy:

No, having a plan is almost always better than making it up as you go.


Then why does Suggy prefer not having one? What does he see that we don't?


Nothing he says in some videos he plays ladder just to mess about and he customs his serious builds. He just plays online for fun and asks his friends because he is trying to entertain them since sometimes in the video you see a big screen with the games suggy plays being projected.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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