• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:21
CET 15:21
KST 23:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC28[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video Starcraft:Brood War Discord Servers [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Can Game Data Analytics Help Players Improvements
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12792 users

[H] I want to be Terran

Blogs > Zephirdd
Post a Reply
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 19 2011 01:45 GMT
#1
Sup guys, Zephirdd here, back after a 2 weeks ban for using memes here despite beeing warned three times. You probably have no idea of who I am, but who cares, its a blog anyways.


Anyhow, back to the topic. I'm a Mid-Platinum Zerg, but despite beeing Zerg my favorite player is Liquid'Jinro.

Despite people saying that Zerg is the hardest race and blah blah, in my opinion Zerg has the easiest macro of the game.

There, I said it. You can say whatever you want, but I don't believe in it. First off, to stabilish your macro you need exactly 48 drones, which is achieved in a matter of seconds. Secondly, you don't even need to look to your base to build supply. Third, larva inject is not hard. You just change your town camera hotkey to space, and you can cycle through hatcheries to check for larva, and use a single hotkey for queens to keep injecting, and it is pretty freaking easy.

Terran is easy to macro off one base, sure. It is o.k. to macro off two bases. Try macroing 3+ bases effectively, it is HARD.

However, my playstyle is very different from most Ts out there: I'm NOT agressive.


What I need help with is tips to learn terran macro(ie. good macro BOs), while maintaining MECH style play. And I do mean hellion drops, mass siege tanks and thors, with PFs as space control. I'm watching CatZ vs TLO atm, and I have to say that TLO's style is pretty much what I want to do.

Also, do anyone have some sort of chart to explain how much a base can support? IE. "one base can support 2 factories making siege tanks and one factory making hellions" or "one base supports one thor per minute" or stuff like that.


Allright, and finishing, my game plans - give your opinion about them:
TvZ: fake bunker into expansion -> blue flame hellions(drop if possible) -> mass mech into third base -> BCs very late in the game, because they are actually very good(esp. with buff incoming).

TvT: iEchoic's TvT style

TvP: Mech with PFs and Turrets


I just want some ideas from people to make me learn this mech style T.

Just a disclaimer, as a Zerg player the "fake bunker into expansion" is IMO an extremly effective faint pressure, and I could even open with 2 rax to make zergs overreact. After that, I'd switch into massive blue flame hellions for more and more harassment - including drops if possible.

After that, I'd rely on my scan/scouting info to chose between more thors or more tanks depending on mutas or roaches, and rely on building armor and turret range upgrades, together with armory upgrades. Upgraded Thors are nothing to laugh about.

Ghosts would be included in any MU depending on what I see - infestors, fenixes, or even banshees or ravens - but I also need some help on learning timings for these.

Wall thats it. Zephirdd.361 if you want to call me on US BNet. Also, I only intend to do that post 1.3, just so I can start with a new record for purely T.

*
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 19 2011 02:03 GMT
#2
On March 19 2011 10:45 Zephirdd wrote:
Also, do anyone have some sort of chart to explain how much a base can support? IE. "one base can support 2 factories making siege tanks and one factory making hellions" or "one base supports one thor per minute" or stuff like that.


http://sc2calc.org/unit_production/terran.php
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 19 2011 02:05 GMT
#3
WOW! That's a very useful site, thaks for that!
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
NYXinc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany74 Posts
March 19 2011 03:52 GMT
#4
Well if you want to learn mech than you should check out Goody he is an German Terran who exclusively plays mech. He is also not that perfect jet but getting some reps with him playing should send you in the right direction. He also has a fan club page on TL there you get an idea what he dose. Good luck in improving and finding your style
Remember living
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
March 19 2011 04:17 GMT
#5
wat 48 drones in seconds is an exaggeration and it is also that you have to balance your units/workers based on whatever your opponent is doing or may be doing

as for injects even nestea and greg miss injects b/c it is so hard it may never be perfected
marineking will u huk my bigtt1 ilu
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
21:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
ByuN vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Solar
Clem vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Lambo vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
WardiTV947
IntoTheiNu 897
ComeBackTV 860
TaKeTV 335
IndyStarCraft 203
Rex98
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 203
Rex 98
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 67894
Calm 6742
Rain 1808
Jaedong 1612
BeSt 775
FanTaSy 588
EffOrt 576
Larva 404
Rush 334
Hyuk 192
[ Show more ]
Hyun 184
ZerO 170
actioN 105
Mind 102
Zeus 88
Yoon 86
Sharp 85
Last 84
Soulkey 70
Sea.KH 64
Pusan 59
JYJ 45
Mong 39
ToSsGirL 37
Bale 36
sSak 33
hero 29
Killer 27
sorry 24
Shine 22
Hm[arnc] 20
Movie 18
Terrorterran 18
Aegong 17
Sacsri 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Dota 2
Dendi1674
XcaliburYe288
canceldota92
qojqva38
Counter-Strike
byalli785
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor254
Other Games
FrodaN2923
singsing2235
B2W.Neo485
Lowko407
KnowMe282
XaKoH 126
Beastyqt97
mouzStarbuck74
ViBE66
ZerO(Twitch)22
CosmosSc2 16
Railgan13
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV551
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki21
• ChaeLyn 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV165
League of Legends
• Jankos2471
Upcoming Events
IPSL
2h 39m
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
5h 39m
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 39m
WardiTV Invitational
21h 39m
IPSL
1d 2h
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
1d 5h
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
1d 19h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 21h
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.