• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:46
CEST 20:46
KST 03:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes124BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups
Tourneys
Stellar Fest StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL20 General Discussion Soulkey on ASL S20 ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Borderlands 3 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1989 users

Will sanZenith be able to compete post Post 1.3?

Blogs > Tumba1
Post a Reply
Tumba1
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States102 Posts
March 11 2011 14:49 GMT
#1
Just as sanZenith is starting to gain notoriety and respect for his recent play, could it all be short lived? For a player that in a recent match against Terran didn't make a single Collusis or Immortal the removal of the amulet may destroy his play style.

or will it?

Personally I think he will be able to adapt simply because he is used to getting pounded on. He has "snake blood" as Artosis put it. Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger sorta deal. He plays on the razors edge of having just enough units to survive. Actually switching and massing an army may be refreshing for him.


*
ShaSKiRa
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia344 Posts
March 11 2011 14:53 GMT
#2
You never know ...

like MKP, his style was pure Marines, but now he got a mix ... ^^~
I love FlaSh :) He gonna PWNED ALL OTHER RACE
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
March 11 2011 15:10 GMT
#3
I'm of the belief that there's a lot going on behind the scenes in the minds and practice of great players that we don't see; so what we see televised are just glimpses into their brilliance, like the undeniable sparkles of far away stars borne from fusion more furious than we can know.

Specifically, players demonstrate styles of play for many reasons, and "player is capable only of doing x" is never one of them. I'm sure San will impress just as much even after 1.3, even if he needs to tweak his play. The best players are constantly finding ways to improve and adjust in order to win; balance patches aren't the only impetus for such growth.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
March 11 2011 15:30 GMT
#4
He'll learn soon enough that 'C' is for collossus.

I mean, he basically has to, right?
ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
March 11 2011 15:33 GMT
#5
On March 12 2011 00:30 iaguz wrote:
He'll learn soon enough that 'C' is for collossus.

I mean, he basically has to, right?


We all will. High Templar are no longer going to be a backbone unit, but rather a support unit.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
TL+ Member
MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
March 11 2011 15:58 GMT
#6
I thought this post was about him having military service.
I'm curious if his cheese defense has gotten better. It was pretty sick how he lost a Bo3 in 10 minutes.
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 11 2011 16:02 GMT
#7
I don't even know if he'll be competing after patch 1.3. Isn't he going to the army soon?
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
DennizR
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden653 Posts
March 11 2011 16:33 GMT
#8
On March 11 2011 23:53 ShaSKiRa wrote:
You never know ...

like MKP, his style was pure Marines, but now he got a mix ... ^^~


And MKP is down at up/down matches now ~~
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
March 11 2011 16:45 GMT
#9
On March 12 2011 01:33 DennizR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 23:53 ShaSKiRa wrote:
You never know ...

like MKP, his style was pure Marines, but now he got a mix ... ^^~


And MKP is down at up/down matches now ~~


I giggled when MKP tried to go mass marines vs InCa
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 11 2011 17:05 GMT
#10
Well, San did try to go Colossi during match 1 on Metalopolis, but his Robo Support Bay got sniped before he could build any out of his newly constructed double Robo facilities.

I think San will definitely find a way of persevering despite the removal of the Amulet upgrade. Although High Templar were an integral part of his style, nerfing them won't necessarily make his style obsolete despite weakening it.

I'm sure he'll find a way of maintaining his whack-a-mole style of expanding and his ability to harass like no other.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
March 11 2011 17:28 GMT
#11
The transition from using high templars to massing colossi is probably gonna be a lot easier than transitioning from losing in under 5 minutes into owning some of the best players in the world

That said , he was probably never as bad as advertised because he was always cheesed out ( oh inca you devil and i hope huk knows all your tricks inside out) and he might not have to worry about the patch because he is going to army very soon no?
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
March 11 2011 17:38 GMT
#12
huk is pure cheese and abuse too so inca will probably win anyway
Poo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada536 Posts
March 11 2011 19:16 GMT
#13
You're assuming that whatever on the PTR will actually be patched as you expect. People are bitching about the KA removal to be too extreme of a nerf - it's likely that blizzard will not make HT completely unusable and that san-Zenith may not have to make such an extreme playstyle change.
Regardless, I think that you'll see some colossus and immortals in his near future play - the tech switch from HT to colossus can actually be devastating in PvT
Try hard or don't try at all.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13993 Posts
March 11 2011 20:48 GMT
#14
On March 12 2011 04:16 Stealthypoo wrote:
You're assuming that whatever on the PTR will actually be patched as you expect. People are bitching about the KA removal to be too extreme of a nerf - it's likely that blizzard will not make HT completely unusable and that san-Zenith may not have to make such an extreme playstyle change.
Regardless, I think that you'll see some colossus and immortals in his near future play - the tech switch from HT to colossus can actually be devastating in PvT


this
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
March 11 2011 21:30 GMT
#15
Even if the amulet is removed...the same turtle templar is playable. The only difference will be you pre-emptively make them at your expansion with cannon flowers, rather than the immediate instant your expansion is being attacked.
Sup
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 14m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 458
PiGStarcraft405
UpATreeSC 202
IndyStarCraft 120
JuggernautJason47
Codebar 46
MindelVK 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19190
Dewaltoss 103
PianO 67
soO 52
Movie 16
HiyA 11
Dota 2
qojqva4236
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1208
fl0m1022
ScreaM981
Other Games
tarik_tv36435
gofns17390
FrodaN6325
Grubby2204
B2W.Neo280
Hui .178
Fuzer 109
C9.Mang095
TKL 87
XaKoH 72
QueenE72
Trikslyr62
NeuroSwarm42
ViBE1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• sitaska54
• Hupsaiya 38
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix20
• 80smullet 15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4712
League of Legends
• Nemesis4101
Other Games
• imaqtpie853
• WagamamaTV302
• Shiphtur253
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
8h 14m
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
13h 14m
RSL Revival
15h 14m
Reynor vs Cure
TBD vs Zoun
OSC
1d 2h
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 15h
Classic vs TBD
Online Event
1d 21h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.