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OverZero
United States271 Posts
Sorry to rant like this but I'm currently frustrated beyond belief. I really don't like 4-gating I'd much rather play some form of a macro game (I at least think thats where I happen to shine). But, if you guys have any advice please share, or if you want to rant about some matchup you're having trouble with feel free to let loose!   | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
That was when I just stopped all together and just play Team games. | ||
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
Sentries help you beat stimmed dudes. Immortals own tanks. | ||
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OverZero
United States271 Posts
On March 08 2011 13:41 Torte de Lini wrote: That was when I just stopped all together and just play Team games. Thats what I've resorted to, but today I mustered up some strength to try and play on the ladder. This blog is the result of that...  | ||
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OverZero
United States271 Posts
On March 08 2011 13:42 Trozz wrote: What build do you use? Sentries help you beat stimmed dudes. Immortals own tanks. I usually do 3 or 2-gate robo. But recently I've been messing around with a 2-warpgate pressure into expand but it just doesn't seem to flow right. | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
4 gate dominates terrans. just attack right when 4 gate finishes (and you have like 7 units or something) dont wait too long. if it fails, then you can macro. just because you dont like it it doesnt mean you shouldnt do it ^^ | ||
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leadphyc
United States99 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
I don't recommend one base colossus: generally the terran can hold the first attack, and after that they just have enough bio they can take you out despite the collossi. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
I have about a 70-80% winrate in PvT atm, but I can't PvT at all. There are a few TvP pushes that if the Terran does, I have a very low chance of stopping it, but fortunately, those pushes don't happen a lot. The one build that I'm most successful at is a 2 colo timing push. What you do is open gate robo gate and pump zealots and stalkers. Use your scouting prove to see if the Terran pushes. If the Terran does not, save your chrono boost. When the robo finishes, build a robo bay, an immortal, and a 3rd gate. Save about 300 or so gas. When robo bay finishes, build a colo and then thermal lance @ 200 gas and then another colo. Spend all your chrono on the two colo. Right as the 2nd colo finishes, use scouting probe to build a proxy pylon and then push. This push is very hard to stop as Terran. | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
build your pylon/gateway/gas/pylon/cyber as always. As the cyber finishes you throw down the robo with your first 100 gas. Depending on what you like, the next either 50 or 100 gas goes to a sentry or a stalker. THEN and only THEN do you start your warpgate research. Get a second gateway around now, and chrono the shit outa that robo cause you want that observer as fast as you can. You will NEVER be caught off guard with this if you have a probe sitting as his choke until the obs comes out. Depending on what the obs see's you pretty much do what you think would be a good idea at the time. Whats he building? Does he have a command center? Does he have 2 gas? Does he have a "oh god I'm gonna die" amount of units? Do I need to make another obs for a possible cloak banshee in my base any second? Just run through the mental checklist of all the stupid shit Terran can do with what he has on the field. Play proper, and react well, you should do just fine. | ||
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
Try this. I use it in a lot of my PvTs and is probably the build I win most with. It can be tough to hold against some all-ins or early timing attacks, but a lot of Terran don't really know how to best punish a FE. You'd be surprised at some of the agression you're able to hold off, especially with good forcefields. Most of the time, if you survive the first attack, it's game over. | ||
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EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
On March 08 2011 13:58 Chairman Ray wrote: When I looked at the topic title, I thought you were talking about your virginity and you needed to share with TL right before it happened, because that's totally what I would do. LOL winner of this thread right here have you tryed a 1gate expo build? its really stron against any sort of terran build and can easily hold 3 rax. the only things that could give you trouble would be polt timing, marine scv allin(which can be easily held off with some stalker micro) and thor rush(which you hardly see nowadays after the nerf). imo its generaly a bad idea to pressure terran early on due to stupid maruaders slowing all your stuff down. defending while out macroing and harrasing then smashing them with a strong lategame seems to work best ( after all, terrans qq about toss late game all the time) at least for me | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On March 08 2011 13:58 Chairman Ray wrote: When I looked at the topic title, I thought you were talking about your virginity and you needed to share with TL right before it happened, because that's totally what I would do. lol you're kidding. I supposed I can see that, but my first though was | ||
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
If it's not working for you, get a third instead. | ||
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Hellhammer
Canada144 Posts
Try building 8 cannons outside your base and you will win every game. Not 7, 8. Edit: oh ya, just warp in storms duh | ||
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EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
On March 08 2011 16:21 Hellhammer wrote: Zealots are too strong. Stalkers can shoot up. Crono boost = autowin. Pylon rush is imba. Nexus needs to be nerfed. Try building 8 cannons outside your base and you will win every game. Not 7, 8. Edit: oh ya, just warp in storms duh ...  the mods will be out for your soul! | ||
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Sd13
Vietnam185 Posts
On March 08 2011 15:22 Grobyc wrote: lol you're kidding. I supposed I can see that, but my first though was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dcVOmEQzKA lol, same thought here | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
Awhile ago I found out all I need is mass speedling to beat a 4 gate, and went on a 10 game streak into master league. Now I'm having trouble beating toss who does 3 gateway expand and more conservative, and I'm figuring out what I can do against it. | ||
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