EPTGirl Advice: Moral Issue - Page 3
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United States5725 Posts
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
On February 08 2011 06:05 Sleight wrote: Guys... Everyone cheats. It is NOT some moral dilemma anymore than the time I asked for black coffee and got sugar in it. Most times it is a careless mistake. I am not discussing the ramifications, just the act. The act is usually stupid and thoughtless and that's it. If you haven't ever cheated, you either a) have never dated someone or b) it hasn't happened yet. You will. It's not a big deal. I've been cheated on a ton, I accidentally cheated a couple times. meh. You live and learn. Love is beyond institution. You gotta take risks and be a bit of an idiot on occasion. It's part of the fun. who pumped you full of this bullshit? I guess you're trying to justify doing it but hell, not everyone does it not even the majority do. | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On February 08 2011 08:34 Hynda wrote: who pumped you full of this bullshit? I guess you're trying to justify doing it but hell, not everyone does it not even the majority do. Okay well besides the unnecessarily aggressive approach. Fact: Conservative estimates put marital infidelity at the lowest at 40%. Some studies have shown it is as at least 60%. So YES everyone DOES DO IT. Congratulations on not looking your information of. That is MARITAL infidelity. We are talking about boyfriends and girlfriends? Yeah the numbers suggest 70% of people will have cheated once in their life. Whoops, you should do a little "Google" action once or twice. | ||
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Tipany
United States368 Posts
On February 08 2011 10:40 Sleight wrote: Okay well besides the unnecessarily aggressive approach. Fact: Conservative estimates put marital infidelity at the lowest at 40%. Some studies have shown it is as at least 60%. So YES everyone DOES DO IT. Congratulations on not looking your information of. That is MARITAL infidelity. We are talking about boyfriends and girlfriends? Yeah the numbers suggest 70% of people will have cheated once in their life. Whoops, you should do a little "Google" action once or twice. Yo, stop saying "everyone". You do know that everyone = 100% right? | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
On February 08 2011 10:40 Sleight wrote: Okay well besides the unnecessarily aggressive approach. Fact: Conservative estimates put marital infidelity at the lowest at 40%. Some studies have shown it is as at least 60%. So YES everyone DOES DO IT. Congratulations on not looking your information of. That is MARITAL infidelity. We are talking about boyfriends and girlfriends? Yeah the numbers suggest 70% of people will have cheated once in their life. Whoops, you should do a little "Google" action once or twice. You have to be very careful about how you interpret statistics, because there can very easily be factors that distort the numbers. There are statistics that say 40-60% of married individuals will engage in infidelity of some sort. Also, it is said that about 50% of marriages will experience an issue with infidelity. But how does this account for the fact that people who tend to cheat will probably engage in multiple marriages, whereas the couples with no infidelity will have a much higher chance of staying together? "Once a cheater always a cheater" is certainly coming into play on this statistic. If we look at some other numbers, it looks like around 20% of people will cheat at some point in their lives. This is far from the majority of the population. This would also support my theory that the first statistic is being inflated by repeat offenders. But let's ignore these numbers. In the first place, infidelity statistics are going to be terribly unreliable. Even if the majority of people have cheated at some point in their lives, that does not mean that it's right, or even okay. According to my morals, cheating is wrong because it is hurtful and destructive. No statistics will change that belief. Maybe your morals dictate that cheating is acceptable, and your idea of a proper culture involves a certain high percentage of infidelity. If that's the case, then we must agree to disagree on fundamental grounds. On the other hand, maybe you're just hiding behind some statistics to justify your behavior, because that's the easier choice. | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4343 Posts
On February 08 2011 03:29 Chill wrote: A wiser man also said once a cheater always a cheater. A - fucking - men. I agree with Chill here. | ||
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_romantic
United States455 Posts
On February 08 2011 12:25 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: A - fucking - men. I agree with Chill here. qft... too many guys (including myself) have made this mistake | ||
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luckyseven
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luckyseven
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GoShox
United States1850 Posts
On February 08 2011 03:29 Chill wrote: A wiser man also said once a cheater always a cheater. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Look, you should be encouraged that you can get this girl to kiss you. However, if she'd cheat on her current boyfriend, there's absolutely no reason she wouldn't cheat on you. Take this experience and the positives from it and move on to a better situation. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On February 08 2011 05:18 niteReloaded wrote: What if a weird prophet that you know only tells the truth said that this girl is the one for you, your best bet for reaching romantic happiness? Would your morals still stop you? Now tell me, is there a girl that's closer to that ideal one than June at the moment? Go for it imo. If there's lessons to learn from this, learn them first hand, don't back away just because X might turn out as Y which might lead to some imaginary unpleasant Z. Yeah, good idea. You should join the army too because they give you money up front for joining. No big deal if you have to learn the horrors of combat firsthand. Don't back away just because you might get your face blown off by a high-powered rifle, or you might step on a landmine, or you might get a grenade tossed in your lap, which might lead to death or life as a cripple. Go for it IMO. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On February 08 2011 06:05 Sleight wrote: Guys... Everyone cheats. It is NOT some moral dilemma anymore than the time I asked for black coffee and got sugar in it. Most times it is a careless mistake. I am not discussing the ramifications, just the act. The act is usually stupid and thoughtless and that's it. If you haven't ever cheated, you either a) have never dated someone or b) it hasn't happened yet. You will. It's not a big deal. I've been cheated on a ton, I accidentally cheated a couple times. meh. You live and learn. Love is beyond institution. You gotta take risks and be a bit of an idiot on occasion. It's part of the fun. Wtf kind of garbage? Not everyone cheats. I don't cheat. I've been in a relationship for 7 years. And I've been in other relations for more than 6 months too, and I never cheated. Just because you think everyone's a scumbag doesn't make it okay. Seriously, I hate when assholes use rationales like this. Cheating is not cool at all and can cause a lot of emotional harm. You don't want to be in a relation then leave. You can't control your hormones then live the single life. Don't try to cheapen the word love by using it as a synonym for "someone I like to fuck and hang out with." It's fine to be an idiot or kind of goofy/sappy for love. It's not okay to be a morally reprehensible asshole who's near sociopathic in their disregard for the feelings of others. | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
I would not be surprised if ~everyone has had a "the person I would pursue if I weren't with my monogamous partner" at some point in their lives. | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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Frobert
Canada113 Posts
On February 09 2011 05:09 Zim23 wrote: If a drunk girl kisses you it's basically a marriage proposal, so I suggest you agonize over it for a few months until you finally realize it meant nothing then move on to the next girl that smiles at you. Better idea: she was drunk who cares move on if she wants some she can come find you. This is exactly what I needed to hear. Thread over. | ||
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