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AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
January 31 2011 21:47 GMT
#1
So its been about three weeks since I've picked up T and so far, its been pretty good. I actually dropped so many games I was placed in Silver >< But its been so far so good. I've run into a wall in TvZ/TvP. Bio doesnt seem to work as well in those two MOs and I've been working on a lot of mech play. I'm able to beat the Diamond players I've been facing with the builds I've played (in custom games, lol), so I think I can get promoted fairly soon, but I still dont feel steady with Mech enough to do ladder. Am I supposed to just sit there and wait? Or is there harass I can do? I dont have a problem with turtling up and repeatedly expanding, I just dont know if thats the RIGHT thing to do.

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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 31 2011 21:57 GMT
#2
I have no idea how to play T otherwise I'd try to give you advice, all I can say is GLHF .
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 31 2011 22:06 GMT
#3
Get rid of the fear and just try it.

Think a little about your usual gameplan and see its weaknesses and strengths, make predictions on what might be a good thing to do. Then try it in a game, and adjust with experience. Taking other people's advice is fine, but learning by yourself is great too. Plus, this is a game, you're meant to mess around a bit, don't take the ladder too seriously too soon.

TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
January 31 2011 22:08 GMT
#4
Post some replays?

I've been using a mech-style play for the last week. Use blue-flame hellion drops and harass. Even top diamond players have serious issue dealing with that.
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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
January 31 2011 22:55 GMT
#5
What TossFloss said.

3 blue-flame hellions in somebody's base will outright kill a lot of diamond players and it's something that you can use all the way up into the GSL.

The best builds are ones that can kill on their own, set yourself up with an advantage, and be usable at all levels of play. Something with a hellion drop fits that well.
Lanaia is love.
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
February 01 2011 00:57 GMT
#6
http://topreplays.com/Replays/Details/4326/heyoka_vs_SovieT
http://topreplays.com/Replays/Details/4325/SovieT_vs_BMP
http://topreplays.com/Replays/Details/4323/Davinci_vs_SovieT

The games v Heyoka and Davinci were really frustrating. I feel like I was just a little.. something away from winning. The finals pushes in those games trashed me. The BMP game I felt like I did something very well. I guess its the tank contain, but I wasnt really sure when I should or how far I should push out in the two games I lost.

And holy SHIT blue flame hellions wreck :O
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RyuChus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada442 Posts
February 01 2011 01:59 GMT
#7
Well, actually i think that with mech. Or at least how I play it, you really need to turtle up until you're third base is up and running. So on a map like Shakuras Plateau, you can move your tanks behind the brush in the middle of the map, until you're third base is running, at that point you may want to push. Also make sure you are constantly running around with hellions. Just poking and searching for weaknesses so you may push before you even have your third up. If you win at that point then you were ahead because of something. If you were behind the whole game, just take it easy, and defend your third. That's all I can say.
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AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
February 01 2011 02:51 GMT
#8
So I should be active with my hellions and turtle till my third kicks in. Is the best way to go 1/1/1? Or can I do a 2 Rax FE and then use one to scout? Should I get dropships constantly?
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TossFloss *
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada606 Posts
February 01 2011 20:17 GMT
#9
On February 01 2011 11:51 AKomrade wrote:
So I should be active with my hellions and turtle till my third kicks in. Is the best way to go 1/1/1? Or can I do a 2 Rax FE and then use one to scout? Should I get dropships constantly?


I prefer building the starport before the 2nd factory for the dropship harass and option to build vikings or ravens.

Be active with your hellions. You should be checking watch towers, expansions and follow up with drops.

In the first replay, Protoss gave you opportunities to roast probes at his natural and take out two sentries. Hellions are really good for poking and probing because they fast, cheap and can tank hits from stalkers. Furthermore, if you had used drop ship, there is no way Protoss could have protected both the main and the natural from hellions.

I don't like the early tank push. Unless they are behind a solid wall or something, I don't think two tanks are really a threat. Also, I do not like going for a tank-push oriented play on opposite positions on metalopolis because of the huge rush distance.
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AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
February 02 2011 03:44 GMT
#10
Ok thanks!

I didnt get any toss on the ladder today, so I'll try again tomorrow. Its a little wierd. I have days with nothing but Zerg, others with only v P..
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