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Along the same lines of my previous blog post on Liquid`Corbalt, I'm posting this interview from my dead website from 2001 of Nazgul for those that may want to reminisce.
Loophole: First of all, congratulations on doing so well in the WCG. I know you probably would have liked to advance further in the tournament, but the only losses you had were to medal winners.
Liquid`Nazgul: Thank you. People are always telling me that, even though I don't think I did very well. But that's just me I guess ;(
Loophole: Is that because of your play in your losses, or did you just feel like you played poorly overall?
Liquid`Nazgul: I don't think I played bad in any of my games, except the one vs Elky. I also think that, in the games vs Boxer and Gorush, 2 very small mistakes made the whole game turn in their favor.
Loophole: Such is Starcraft. =)
Liquid`Nazgul: Yep.
Loophole: Did you feel like any of those games were within your reach?
Liquid`Nazgul: Both the games vs Boxer and Gorush I felt I should have won. It may be arrogant, but that's how I feel. The game vs Elky I had no chance.
Loophole: I see. A lot of people seem to look at Boxer as invincible. Anything impress you about his play in that game?
Liquid`Nazgul: Creativity. He is so smart. He does strats no one has ever done before. 2 good examples of that are the games he played vs Whear and Smuft.
Loophole: Ah, creativity. I often hear people on bnet generalizing about Koreans as all playing the same. It's sad that people can be so ignorant.
Liquid`Nazgul: Agreed.
Loophole: I remember seeing a picture of a large hall, the same one where the famous games between Boxer and Slayer took place. Did they hold all of the matches in 1 large hall?
Liquid`Nazgul: Yes. It was one huge hall with one big stage and a few smaller ones. One area was for all the players of every game. No one but the players could enter this part of the hall. This is where almost all of the games were played.
Loophole: Cool. Were all the games played on the stages, or just in the later rounds?
Liquid`Nazgul: Not only in later rounds. During the whole tournament they picked exciting matches to be played on stage.
Loophole: I can only imagine how much pressure the size of it all must have put on a lot of the players.
Liquid`Nazgul: In the first 4 of my group's games I was very nervous. I won them all. Then I was 4-0 and whether I won or lost vs Elky didn't matter anymore. Therefore I wasn't nervous at all in my game vs Elky. Then I played MTY and CQ~2000. In both those games I was nervous. After that I played Boxer and Gorush. Somehow I wasn't nervous at all for these matches. Maybe because they are recognized as better players than me.
Loophole: MTY and CQ~2000 were the chinese players, right?
Liquid`Nazgul: MTY and CQ are both Chinese, yes.
Loophole: I suppose being the underdog can help quite a bit. Have you played in large European tournaments in the past that helped you know what to expect?
Liquid`Nazgul: No ;(.
Loophole: Well, now you have. 
Liquid`Nazgul: : )
Loophole: How did your family react when you told them you were flying to Korea to play in a Starcraft tournament?
Liquid`Nazgul: They think it's really cool I can get a trip to another country for free by playing 'that game'. They really support me. E-mailed me every day when I was in Korea. Never disturb me when I'm playing an important game from my room.
Loophole: Now that's understanding. I always feel bad when I have to tell my fiancee to leave me alone when I'm playing a game that's important (to me).
Liquid`Nazgul: Ah congratulations on getting married soon :D
Loophole: hehe. thanks. Do you have any little brothers or sisters that play SC?
Liquid`Nazgul: No.
Loophole: So you can't tell people it was your bro using your account when you lose.
Liquid`Nazgul: lol 
Loophole: Does your family know you would like to become a professional gamer? Or that it's even possible?
Liquid`Nazgul: It depends on what YOU think a professional gamer is. It probably is not possible for me to make enough money to live off of BW. And even if I could it would have to be in Korea. I wouldn't go there this year. I have to make my exams at school.
Loophole: That's kinda what I meant. Going to Korea would be a big move. Do they know it's a possibility?
Liquid`Nazgul: They know I won't go there this year. I think after this year when WarCraft3 is out it will be possible to be a professional gamer in Europe. If not, I won't mind at all to move to Korea when someone gives me the opportunity.
Loophole: Did anyone approach you about sponsorship while you were at the WCG?
Liquid`Nazgul: No.
Loophole: You mentioned Warcraft 3. Are you anticipating it?
Liquid`Nazgul: Yes. I will play it as soon as it's out.
Loophole: It's going to be a pretty big deal. I wonder if it will lend itself to competitive gaming as well as starcraft does.
Liquid`Nazgul: Hard to tell. I think Blizzard knows this as well and will try their best to make this game so that it's suitable for progaming.
Loophole: Yeah, I think they realize they have a big oppourtunity here. You had to get past NTT in the WCG qualifier, right?
Liquid`Nazgul: That's correct .
Loophole: =) A lot of people were expecting him to go. Do you ever talk to the guy on bnet or anything?
Liquid`Nazgul: Yes we are very good friends. We usually talk to each other like every day. We used to play alot in the past as well.
Loophole: Cool. So is he still playing? I mean, he seemed frustrated with SC for a while...
Liquid`Nazgul: He still plays every now and then.
Loophole: But not competitively?
Liquid`Nazgul: I'm not sure so I can't really answer that.
Loophole: ok, just curious. Are there any other games you play a lot of?
Liquid`Nazgul: None.
Loophole: Oh. Was SC the first PC game you've gotten into, or just nothing else gets you addicted like SC?
Liquid`Nazgul: SC is the only game I played online. Of course I have played a few hours of CS, but that's not really worth mentioning. Before SC I just played games like Commander Keen .
Loophole: lol. Commander Keen was awesome.
Liquid`Nazgul: YES! :D.
Loophole: Play any console games?
Liquid`Nazgul: The only console games I played every now and then were 007 and some really good Grand Prix game.
Loophole: Ah. Oh, I wanted to ask you if you had the chance to get out and see any of the Korean night life?
Liquid`Nazgul: Sad but true: no. If I get the chance to go to Korea again I think I will add 3 days on my own costs to see a bit more of Korea.
Liquid`Nazgul: We didn't get to see ANYTHING except our hotel and the COEX centre.
Loophole: Too bad. Was the hotel nice at least?
Liquid`Nazgul: Yes the hotel was very nice. They had one room with about 100-200 PC's for all the games with the exception of CS. They had a room just as big for theirselves. Something I didn't like is them waking everyone with some korean music at 6:45 am.
Loophole: lol. Korean music to wake you...
Loophole: I just saw the Lord of the Rings movie the other day. Are you a fan of the books?
Liquid`Nazgul: No. I randomly made up the name Nazgul. Then I heard this guy named Tolkien used them for his book.
Loophole: heh. I was wondering about that. I heard them use the word Nazgul, and I thought, "I wonder if they had to license that from team liquid..."
Liquid`Nazgul: haha You are not believing what I just said are you? :|
Loophole: Eh? No, i believe you. I had never heard the word until I saw the movie.
Liquid`Nazgul: omg you suck ;(
Loophole: lol. Well, except your name that is.
Liquid`Nazgul: Yes I'm a big Tolkien fan. I read the book, 1000+ pages, 3 times.
Loophole: oh man, I'm so gullible...
Liquid`Nazgul: It's about the only book I ever read though ;(.
Loophole: lol. It's kinda cool though, cause the Nazgul are these really creepy dudes in the movie.
Liquid`Nazgul: Yes I like the way they made the Nazgûl look.
Loophole: I read the Hobbit and I loved it, but I never read the fellowship of the rings. Actually I think it might be under the tree... =)
Liquid`Nazgul: Good. Thank her (right?) for me. Another illiturate dummy going to read the best book ever written. :D.
Loophole: hehe. Some gamers are really picky about their mouse/keyboard. Do you carry yours to tournies?
Liquid`Nazgul: Just the mouse. People laughed at me at WCG for using this mouse. I got it with an old computer like 3 years ago and I still use it. I think I will buy a new one soon, now that I have to play more and more important games.
Loophole: heh. what kind is it? I'm in love with optical mice now, I don't think I can ever go back.
Liquid`Nazgul: It's a Fujitsu. Some random model.
Loophole: omg they make mice??
Liquid`Nazgul: ;(. Don't mock me. :D
Loophole: lol. Ok, about liquid. How many members?
Liquid`Nazgul: Without me there are 7.*
Loophole: Was it a bunch of friends that just got together? I mean, I take it you guys didn't just create pubbies called "clan liquid tryouts" on BGH.
Liquid`Nazgul: When I left [i'm] I wasn't sure what to do. Then I decided to make my own clan. My goal was only to recruit well mannered and very good players. Every member that wanted to join had to be a friend of mine. He also had to be able of getting along with the the others.
Loophole: Good plan. Did they all have to be as sexy as Drone?
Liquid`Nazgul:[/blue] Yes, but less silly please.
Loophole: lol. Who are some people that you enjoy hanging with on bnet other than your clan mates. You said NTT allready.
Liquid`Nazgul: I hang around with a few of the better players in Brood War SWE-1 very often. Also I really like FroZ and Whear whom I both met in Korea. At West I play with the GG members very often.
Loophole: Ah. Froz owned so hard at the qualifiers. I was suprised that he didn't make it into the tourny.
Liquid`Nazgul: They both impressed me with their playing IRL.
Loophole: Ok, I think I'm gonna wrap it up. Any shout outs you want to give?
Liquid`Nazgul: Hi to everyone that has ever heard of me!
Liquid`Drone: wow naz , thats like, 2 shoutouts. cool.
Liquid`Nazgul: 3 people :D
Loophole: lol
Liquid`Drone: oh 3 
Liquid`Nazgul: Well you, loophole, and myself no?
Liquid`Drone: I guess I know you ;(
Liquid`Nazgul:
Loophole: Anything else you want to add nazgul? A message of peace and goodwill to my site's billions of readers?
Liquid`Nazgul: No.
Loophole: well, thanks again for your time man. Cya around.
Liquid`Nazgul: Same, bye.
 
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Geez, the memories. Thanks for the interview, just a couple of bbcode errors at the end ;P
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Great read!
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Cool old skool stuff Seems like i see a number of threads about old times nowadays.
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Ah, good old times, the memories! Thanks for sharing this retro inverview
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Awesome blast from the past. This was when I was getting into BW.
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On January 18 2011 17:57 LyRa wrote:
Geez, the memories. Thanks for the interview, just a couple of bbcode errors at the end ;P
woops, got em. Thanks. =)
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what a baller, mod liquidpoker now
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Thanks for posting this <3
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On January 18 2011 17:54 Loophole wrote:
Loophole: Anything else you want to add nazgul? A message of peace and goodwill to my site's billions of readers?
Liquid`Nazgul: No.
AHAHHAHA
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Loophole: Anything else you want to add nazgul? A message of peace and goodwill to my site's billions of readers?
Liquid`Nazgul: No.
lold pretty hard
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really cool to see such an interview. and it's nice that some things haven't changed in the past 11 years (littel mistakes can still cost you the game, it's still said, that koreans play all the same style, at least it was i think) thx
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The epic name dropping is mind blowing
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I'm jealous Loop. You got to interview somebody awesome. Great interview, but I lol'd hard at that "Anything else you want to add Nazgul?" bit. xD
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gotta love how he misspelled "illiterate" :D funny interview!
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I remember this interview. Besides Commander Keen mention, part below deserves highlight:
Loophole: I see. A lot of people seem to look at Boxer as invincible. Anything impress you about his play in that game?
Liquid`Nazgul: Creativity. He is so smart. He does strats no one has ever done before. 2 good examples of that are the games he played vs Whear and Smuft.
Loophole: Ah, creativity. I often hear people on bnet generalizing about Koreans as all playing the same. It's sad that people can be so ignorant.
Liquid`Nazgul: Agreed.
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Loophole: I remember seeing a picture of a large hall, the same one where the famous games between Boxer and Slayer took place. Did they hold all of the matches in 1 large hall?
Slayer vs boxer? is this SlayerS_BoxeR and if so who is slayer? :D and is there some story here wich led to boxer adding the slayers to his name?
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I remember this interview
Slayer was a really good Swedish player if I'm remembering correct. I think Boxer was only known as just Boxer then and only after beating Slayer became known as SlayerS_Boxer. Something like that anyway.
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On January 18 2011 20:40 Golden Ghost wrote:I remember this interview Slayer was a really good Swedish player if I'm remembering correct. I think Boxer was only known as just Boxer then and only after beating Slayer became known as SlayerS_Boxer. Something like that anyway.
Sorry, but that's not correct. Slayer was a Norwegian player and Boxer was in the "Slayers" clan. But it fit anyways as he beat slayer (was it 3:1?)
Not sure.
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Actually im pretty sure there is no slayers clan, thats why im asking if his name comes from beating slayer.
only recently was the slayers clan made
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Im a total sc2 noob and dont know much about BW, but from what I have read around the forums he just picked Slayers and Boxer out of the dictionary because they sounded cool.
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Loophole: Cool. So is he [NTT] still playing? I mean, he seemed frustrated with SC for a while...
Haha NTT and his many retirements. This was so good. I could read a million of these.
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On January 18 2011 20:48 Drazzzt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 20:40 Golden Ghost wrote:I remember this interview Slayer was a really good Swedish player if I'm remembering correct. I think Boxer was only known as just Boxer then and only after beating Slayer became known as SlayerS_Boxer. Something like that anyway. Sorry, but that's not correct. Slayer was a Norwegian player and Boxer was in the "Slayers" clan. But it fit anyways as he beat slayer (was it 3:1?) Not sure.
As far as I remember, the norwegian Slayer used GG99 as his clantag. Previously he was known as abs.slayer or something like that. When he was with sVen. He was one of the first foreigners to win a korean starcraft tournament, norwegian television made a documentary following his adventure. Was really cool, gave me the nerdchills back then
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Croatia9517 Posts
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hilarious... particularly the war3 release thing
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Ah, I had almost forgotten about that documentary. gave me the nerd chills as well. Thanks for digging that up.
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Haha very nice, Nazgul is the man!
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On January 18 2011 20:50 mustache wrote:
Actually im pretty sure there is no slayers clan, thats why im asking if his name comes from beating slayer.
only recently was the slayers clan made
The emperor himself said this (That slayers was his first clan) twice in different interviews (he is asked about his name quite often). Unfortunately, I don't find these interviews anymore. Maybe, someone else can confirm this.
Edit: After searching a bit, it's even possible that "Boxer" was the clan and "Slayers" the name Boxer used as he found it sounded cool. Anyways, when boxer played against slayer his name was already slayers_boxer. (i watched it).
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Keep the interviews coming
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My humble apologies kind sir. How can you ever forgive me my grave mistakes. I hope you can find it in the goodness of your heart to give me absolution from my sins
ps. on a serious note you are right.
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Wow, this was a great interview, Loophole. It really gave me insight on the early BW scene. Nazgul fighting!
Although it's a bit disappointing that his expectations with WarCraft 3 went splat. Ah, well, there's still WarCraft in space. =D
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Loophole: Ok, I think I'm gonna wrap it up. Any shout outs you want to give?
Liquid`Nazgul: Hi to everyone that has ever heard of me!
mmmm, kinda strange answer 
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Crazy how much changes over 10 years, who would have thought!
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i remember this interview very well weirdly enough. i distinctly remember the interviewer believing what nazgul said about his name being stolen by Tolkien. very weird.
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Loophole: Cool. So is he [NTT] still playing? I mean, he seemed frustrated with SC for a while...
hahahahahaha, oh god i lost it at this part
NTT, 10 years and still the same
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Man. Nazgul is a dinosaur.
The interview was actually cool, and honestly, I didn't know Nazgul was that much competitive in BW scene. Must be awesome to play against Boxer in his golden BW era.
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awesome interview. i lol'd when nazgul says he has faith in blizz that wc3 will be a balanced competitive esport xD
o wells
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United States313 Posts
Awesome interview, thanks for bringing it up. With all SC2 and TL is becoming, it is as important as ever to remember and respect what got us here =)
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haha..
"Loophole: You mentioned Warcraft 3. Are you anticipating it?
Liquid`Nazgul: Yes. I will play it as soon as it's out. "
Good times
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pretty awesome, some LiquidDrone trolling and i loled at the W3 part for some reason. Thogh most of Nazgul's answers were one word or one liners :/
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Im happy to see the humor in Liquid interviews, and I'm even happier to see that nothing has changed <3
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Fun read! I always find it interesting to go back in time and read old strats or interviews.
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Nazgul is awesome look at How TL has grown since then, and look where hes at now
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nazgul is the fuckin triple OG
EDIT: (that means original original ORIGINAL Gangster)
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Nice!
After reading Boxer's auto-bio, Nazgul's talk about Boxer is fun to read :D
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Wow, this is a pretty cool interview...Too bad I was not aware of the StarCraft scene at this time...Ahh...all the memories - that I never got to experience >>.
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I remember this as being one of the very first gamer interviews I ever read back in the day. I printed it off and took it to school to show my friends, and spent all day talking to them about how good players actually fly across the world to play in huge competitions for money. Heh.
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Wow, I'm really sad that it took me this long to read the interview after having seen it in the spotlight for a while now. But I'm really happy that I did read it. Even though this was way before my time I'm always so interested in the history. I didn't know that Nazgul was so competitive back then. I also didn't know he was so ancient.
Thanks for the history lesson! I really enjoy reading about the past.
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Russian Federation1893 Posts
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starcraft is the only reason of why i would have loved to be born earlier and have like 17 in 2000-2004......
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drone is silly but sexy! hahahaha
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Is it the wcg where nazgul lost against a 2 tank drop from boxer on his cliff? i don't remember the name of the map... it had a cliff just next to the main which allowed tanks to shout the mineral line and there was an expo on there too. I'm sure the game i'm talking about was played at wcg but i don't remember when Boxer did a fast tank drop (he almost always did this) and microed his tanks against nazgul 3 dragoons, did the boxer-micro-dropship thing and won the game right there.
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Then I decided to make my own clan. My goal was only to recruit well mannered and very good players.
Success by these standards even 10 years later. This was the start of the philosophy that has made me so proud to call myself a member of the TL community.
Thanks for sharing!
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On January 19 2011 17:01 oo_xerox wrote:
huh........lost temple?
Obviously not, on lost temple the cliff was next to the natural.
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Commander Keen is teh win! I played all six episodes and Keen Dreams, but I lked Commander Keen 5 the best.
That were the days! I am glad, that Nazgul mentioned Commander Keen.
And, yeah, he also played versus Boxer.
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On January 19 2011 17:42 RouaF wrote:Obviously not, on lost temple the cliff was next to the natural.
late night post my bad
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On January 19 2011 18:23 oo_xerox wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 17:42 RouaF wrote:On January 19 2011 17:01 oo_xerox wrote:
huh........lost temple? Obviously not, on lost temple the cliff was next to the natural. late night post my bad
Np, I found it: Neo Jungle Story
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/96_Neo_Jungle_Story
This map was quite unbalanced if we look at it now... but I really liked it
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Oh, spotlighted. =) Glad you guys enjoyed it!
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Thrilling read, nice to see how far Nazgul and TL as a whole has come in the last decade. Lets see what the future hold! Liquid hwaiting!
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This is a good read. I like this sort of thing.
It makes me mad at myself for not sticking with BW though.... Since SC2 came out I've been reading all of this hisory and I am wishing I was along for the ride instead of looking back on it now. I'm gonna stick around the SC2 scene though... this won't happen again!
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Commander keen was an awesome game.
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Super entertaining. I can't believe 2001 was TEN friggin' years ago at this point.
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nice post and very entertaining at the same time
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On January 19 2011 19:01 RouaF wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2011 18:23 oo_xerox wrote:On January 19 2011 17:42 RouaF wrote:On January 19 2011 17:01 oo_xerox wrote:
huh........lost temple? Obviously not, on lost temple the cliff was next to the natural. late night post my bad Np, I found it: Neo Jungle Story http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/maps/96_Neo_Jungle_StoryThis map was quite unbalanced if we look at it now... but I really liked it
hahaha i remember this map
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Germany2896 Posts
Who's that Nazgul guy? Is he still around?
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On January 22 2011 20:11 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Who's that Nazgul guy? Is he still around?
Nah he got banned for (internet meme's?).
I hear he went under the ID CharlieMurphy until that got banned too.
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hahahahah
Loophole: Anything else you want to add nazgul? A message of peace and goodwill to my site's billions of readers?
Liquid`Nazgul: No.
Man that cracked me up xd
Loved the interview, even though I probably only played like tetris back then ^^
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eri is my fav!!ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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I'm glad our powerful overlord Nazgul is such a nice guy! ^_^
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Liquid Is really spread out right now. Any Chance to add more players since EG just added DeMuslim?
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On January 18 2011 22:26 kerpal wrote:hilarious... particularly the war3 release thing
I know, that's what I was thinking! Especially how Blizzard was going to make the game to be a good competitive game so that progaming would become big in Europe.
It could be a sign. o_o
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What ever happened to drone?
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Loophole: Ok, I think I'm gonna wrap it up. Any shout outs you want to give?
Liquid`Nazgul: Hi to everyone that has ever heard of me!
Liquid`Drone: wow naz , thats like, 2 shoutouts. cool.
Liquid`Nazgul: 3 people :D
Loophole: lol
Liquid`Drone: oh 3
Liquid`Nazgul: Well you, loophole, and myself no?
Liquid`Drone: I guess I know you ;(
LOL, I just loved the end of this interview!
I would like him to say this once again now =P
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the banjo thought this was cute ^^;;
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Amazing interview. Especially this part:
Liquid`Nazgul: They know I won't go there this year. I think after this year when WarCraft3 is out it will be possible to be a professional gamer in Europe. If not, I won't mind at all to move to Korea when someone gives me the opportunity.
Two blizzard RTS can live alongside, we´ve seen it before!
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