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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 29 2010 16:25 GMT
#1
Blizzard got me a belated Christmas gift!

I woke up yesterday morning, hoped on TL, and then decided to practice my PvT. I just switched to Protoss a week ago, to explore a Double Forge build. That isn't the point of this blog.

When I logged in, I didn't notice it at first. I simply hit "Find Match", and chugged along. First game I play, PvT on Steppes. I steamroll the guy. As in, I roll him in under 8 minutes with a 2 gate cyber expand. My forges weren't even done by the time he was out. He tried to float his CC into a corner... Something most diamonds don't do. But I killed it easily. My next game, I lost to a 6-pool on Meta. My bad for assuming 14 hatch - happens when i'm still sleepy. Gotta remember to play ladder only when awake .

This was not shaping up to be a good morning.

I go on tilt, and lost the next two games mainly thanks to making just terrible, overagressive decisions, such as moving ~10 Sentries in against roughly the same number of siege tanks. Before my 5th game of the morning, I force myself to take a deep breath, and let off the tension. That's when I notice my 1v1 says "One Placement Match Remaining."

What.

As my rage slowly grew, I went back through my match history, and the last 4 games were against a Bronze player, a Gold player, and two diamond players. This makes some sense in hindsight. And absolutely no sense at all. There hasn't been a Ladder Reset yet (as far as I'm aware). So... why am I unranked? unplaced even? I sent blizz a note on the bnet forums to fix it, went back to the game, and raged out - hard. I didn't scout the cannon rush cheese bullshit and lost badly to another guy in gold. So now I'm a Bronze player, ranked 19th in my division, with a 1-4 record. I want to keep playing, but I want to give blizz a chance to fix my record, and I don't want to mess it up any farther.

Merry Xmas, blue.

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sur_reaL
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada278 Posts
December 29 2010 16:32 GMT
#2
lol I came here thinking it was gonna be good news...man was I wrong :D
Hopefully blizzard will fix it, if not, you should have some fun in Bronze
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Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
December 29 2010 16:45 GMT
#3
I got 2 disconnects on my placement mathces due to my poor dormatory internet conenction via a proxy... Later I lost 1 game so I got into bronze as well, but its not that hard to get to upper leagues. if you just keep winning youll get there pretty soon. I havent played 100 games yet and Im already in platinum from bronze. As soon as I have some more spare time Im sure Im gonna get into diamond too. SO if they will say they wont fix it for any reason dont get mad, just play lots.

Oh btw, in Bronze League - its a nightmare. Prepare to hold off every crazy shenanigans evar thought of by human race. They will DT rush, PF rush, mothership rush, mass bunker & tank you, they will 6pool, 7pool, 8pool, whatever, they will 1-base-broodlord you. Just a warning
Common Sense - so rare that it's a super power
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
December 29 2010 16:48 GMT
#4
Just play like 10 more games. You will be surprised how good the system is at putting you in the league you belong in. They use an algorithm which allows for your rating to change drastically if you win a lot of games in a row.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 29 2010 16:58 GMT
#5
Ugh. After New Years I won't have much free time at all to play, hopefully I'll move up before then.

I guess its a question of did my MMR get reset as well
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
December 29 2010 17:13 GMT
#6
On December 30 2010 01:58 iGrok wrote:
Ugh. After New Years I won't have much free time at all to play, hopefully I'll move up before then.

I guess its a question of did my MMR get reset as well


No MMR does not get reset between seasons which is why future season will only require 1 placement match.
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 29 2010 17:31 GMT
#7
But mine required 5 - I'm thinking I wasn't just a random test of ladder reset functionality :p
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
December 29 2010 17:33 GMT
#8
On December 30 2010 02:31 iGrok wrote:
But mine required 5 - I'm thinking I wasn't just a random test of ladder reset functionality :p


no, probably a bug.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 18:00:29
December 29 2010 17:59 GMT
#9
I got placed in silver but then got into diamond with a record of something like 18-5. Promotions are really fast when you have very few games.

Sucks that your ladder was reset, but it shouldn't be long before you get back to where you were.
RyuChus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 18:14:42
December 29 2010 18:14 GMT
#10
I don't think I would worry about being placed in bronze because it's just a bug. You should have exited SC2 until it said your proper league.

EDIT: Unless they actually reset the ladders, then we're all screwed.
I have an announcement to make, "Moo!" That is all.
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
December 29 2010 19:00 GMT
#11
Soo bro, why are you whining at all. This means your going to get a retardedly good record by the time you make it back up to your league.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
ProFail
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)81 Posts
December 29 2010 19:02 GMT
#12
Gotta work your way back to the top mate, I got placed in plat then moved to silver lol.
Didnt play Beta, Never played any RTS, straight in plat.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
December 29 2010 19:43 GMT
#13
On December 30 2010 04:02 ProFail wrote:
Gotta work your way back to the top mate, I got placed in plat then moved to silver lol.


Must be hard to do in north korea.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 29 2010 20:16 GMT
#14
On December 30 2010 02:31 iGrok wrote:
But mine required 5 - I'm thinking I wasn't just a random test of ladder reset functionality :p

same thing happened to me. i think it's a hiccup in their system.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
December 29 2010 21:39 GMT
#15
its the bug that has been happening since beta. Actually I think it was a large reason beta took a year longer than it was suppose to; because this magical resetting of placement matches kept happening.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
December 29 2010 22:19 GMT
#16
Facebook recently posted a bug that has to do with innodb locking in mysql. Because of the amount of usage battle.net gets I wouldn't be suprised if this is a part of the problem.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 29 2010 23:41 GMT
#17
Maybe this means the ladder reset is eminent?
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
lastmotion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
368 Posts
December 30 2010 00:16 GMT
#18
u should be thankful that u got placed in bronze.

the number of fun strategies u can do is limitless
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 30 2010 00:41 GMT
#19
On December 30 2010 09:16 lastmotion wrote:
u should be thankful that u got placed in bronze.

the number of fun strategies u can do is limitless

Is it really fun if you pull off a strategy and win against a player that you could have beaten with any ridiculous unit composition or build order?
:)
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 30 2010 01:05 GMT
#20
I'm switching to toss due to this. Time to learn a whole new race!
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37100 Posts
December 30 2010 01:25 GMT
#21
On December 30 2010 10:05 iGrok wrote:
I'm switching to toss due to this. Time to learn a whole new race!


? In your OP you said "PvT", "2 gate cyper push" "moving 10 sentries in to roughly same number of tanks" Doesn't that mean you already play toss?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
December 30 2010 02:17 GMT
#22
I clicked on the title thinking, oh, another Blizzard complaint thread. I read the first sentence and thought, maybe not! Isn't that nice! Then I finished reading and had to change my mind again.

Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 30 2010 02:57 GMT
#23
On December 30 2010 10:25 Seeker wrote:
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On December 30 2010 10:05 iGrok wrote:
I'm switching to toss due to this. Time to learn a whole new race!


? In your OP you said "PvT", "2 gate cyper push" "moving 10 sentries in to roughly same number of tanks" Doesn't that mean you already play toss?


tbh I had already been toying with toss. Used to play Terran (11 years bw), but i've just been getting annoyed with T. So I was experiementing with toss.

This is a perfect excuse to switch over completely
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