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Creegz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada354 Posts
December 12 2010 20:36 GMT
#1
As of today, I've had about 4 matches that seemed to be quite terrible. One of them felt almost a stalemate for a while until he finally pushed and knocked me down. I have uploaded these to my hosting space here in zip format.

I'm gonna review them again and see if I can point out the mistakes, I didn't the first time but you never know. It feels like I'm almost getting worse at the game for some reason. That or everyone is better than me all of a sudden... -_-

On a good note, I think I'm balancing my economy more now, partly because of the one reply to my previous post that mentions the 80/20 rule, that brought some things into perspective, which seems to help a lot. Now additionally my econ may be in fact becoming a bit more even, but I'm still ironing that out. Now it's more just "what do I do now?" Most of todays matches were against Terran who wall/siege up and then just banshee me or something stupid like that. I don't really wanna Robo because it's costly for one unit, when I can just drop a cannon or two. I'm starting to reconsider that choice now though...because really, the cannons have a lot of faults that an Observer doesn't.

The long and short of it is...I'm gonna try and stop panicking like I did last night playing a couple dudes from the TL community and try and relax more, hopefully that will make me more balanced and give me more insight as to what I need to do.

Who is this guy? ^
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 12 2010 22:01 GMT
#2
Even if you're going fast zealot with leg speed/blink/DT, you always need the robo for stopping all ins and the observer because then terran can do whatever teh fuck he wants and kill you with any timing push.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
December 12 2010 22:11 GMT
#3
Unfortunately, OutlaW- is right. The cost of a robo + obs is much less than the amount of cannons you will need to cover your entire base against cloaked banshees, even with a good simcity. And even if you do get enough cannons, if they get enough banshees they can just focus down the outer cannons and THEN cloak and wreck you.
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-12 23:50:35
December 12 2010 23:49 GMT
#4
Was bored so I downloaded and reviewed ur replays. Only watched first minute and I could tell what the biggest improvements for you can be.

I honestly couldn't think it could be this bad lol. Well everyone was bad when they started. Thought u were some low diamond asking for help

Anyways u need to read this first to understand.
Macro


Macro is your ability to produce units, and keep all of your production buildings busy. Generally, the player with the better macro will have the larger army. The other element of macro is your ability to expand at the appropriate times to keep your production of units flowing. A good macro player is able to keep increasing his or her production capability while having the resources to support it.


And this:
Build Order


A build order is a specific series of steps that one takes in the early game to achieve a specific strategy. By using a well-defined build order with every game, it allows you to play with a solid opening that is time-tested and approved for standard play. Also, using a defined order means that you can spend more time figuring out what the opponent is doing than planning which building to construct next.

All build orders dictate which actions to perform based upon supply and events.


Now that u read the above (hopefully) this should set u in the right direction

You are lacking the basics. You need to macro better and have a solid build order. I saw you were playing Z/P. I suggest since I assume you're a newbie that you should focus 1 race. Playing random can help you get a feeling for which race suits you best. After that you should consider playing that particular race.

You really lack the basics as I said.
Having the basic mechanics refined will make you 10x better than the average diamond player. A lot of low diamond / plat players are just too bad and paying attention to things they shouldn't be paying attention yet.

Hope this helps you.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
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