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LunaZade
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
England30 Posts
December 06 2010 22:03 GMT
#1
Hey i ahve been playing Starcraft 2 for around 3-4 months and iam in the bronze league but soooo badly want to get into the diamond with the big boys but i have played all races but i cant decide wich one to play i dont want to play random want to just play one race!

Weaknesse's:
- Cant handle early pressure.
- With Zerg cant handle air pressure.
- Forget to keep training workers.
- Build Units/building's to late or either to early.
- Micro is rather bad.
- Very late game i seem to have no upgrades.
- Dont seem to get higher tier units.
- Never scout around mid/end game.

Strenghts/What i enjoy:
- Macro.
- Putting on ealry pressure.
- Good with tanks.
- enjoy proxy pylon and warping in units.


*
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
December 06 2010 22:08 GMT
#2
Didn't I just read this post in the closed threads section?
Sounds like terran or protoss would be the race for you. Both can put on and survive early pressure. Both require less active scouting than zerg goes. And tanks and colossi are awesome!
RIP MBC Game Hero
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
December 06 2010 22:09 GMT
#3
terran ?:D
LunaZade
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
England30 Posts
December 06 2010 22:11 GMT
#4
Few people saying Terran can i ask why?
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
December 06 2010 22:14 GMT
#5
On December 07 2010 07:11 LunaZade wrote:
Few people saying Terran can i ask why?


My previous post explains a bit of why. With terran a safe build for all matchups is one big bio ball. Its easy to get, Can deal with all ground and air, easy to reinforce.
RIP MBC Game Hero
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
December 06 2010 22:14 GMT
#6
A lot of your weaknesses seem mechanics related, and as such will simply improve with time, effort, and experience.

Given what else you'd said, I think you'd be good with terran or protoss.
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
December 06 2010 22:15 GMT
#7
It's a really personal choice man. If I were you I would choose your favorite player's race and just try that out for a couple of months. Don't fiddle around with the other races. Instead, make a concerted effort towards improving with your race of choice.
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
December 06 2010 22:21 GMT
#8
Be terran, the most important thing about terran is using tanks well, also they are great for early pressure. If you have problem with making workers? OMFGZORZ you got mules so np. You can macro great with terran because planatery fortressess will never come down!
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Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
December 06 2010 22:23 GMT
#9
Terran might work for you. Bio ball is relatively effective and isn't higher tier units like you usually don't build. Also, if you forget to make workers for a bit, you can just call down a bunch of mules and watch your income skyrocket.

Of course, as a protoss player, I must take a moment to let you know your life really should be for Aiur
Lglow
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
130 Posts
December 06 2010 22:27 GMT
#10
It is a personal choice, however I will play 'sorting hat' so you can move on and stop making these posts

Pick Terran.

Justification:
these two statements- "- Putting on ealry pressure." and "enjoy proxy pylon and warping in units."
indicate that you may be interested in harassment oriented style. In my opinion terran has the most flexibility of harassment. most of the weaknesses listed are fixible with only a light training regiment. So this suggestion was made with the long term in mind.

Disclosure: I feel i am somewhat qualified to speak on this topic as I play random at a ~1.8k diamond with 400 bonus saved up. I know this is nothing special, however it should lend some weight to the suggestion
TLurker
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
51 Posts
December 06 2010 22:29 GMT
#11
I suppose Terran then since you are "good with tanks" and "can't handle early pressure"... for the latter, a wall can stop most early aggression and depending on what you scout you can throw up some bunkers which can be salvaged later. Since you said you forget to train workers terran is also better b/c that most likely means you forget to use the main building energy. OC's with pent up energy can be used for later scans or mules for your lack of workers. This is also why I wouldn't recommend zerg since a lot of it seems to be larva management and also missing an inject is much less forgiving.

It really seems like you just need to work on improving your overall skill:
- to address your problems with rushes, learn how to wall off and sim city if you expect really early cheese (assuming you don't already know)... scout with your scv that finishes your first rax, or to be more sure with the one that finishes your first depot

-mid/late game just send off an scv to check out what your opponent is up to/throw down some scans

-you should be constantly making workers and since you are just starting to get the hang of it, you should (imo) queue up extra... don't overdo it (the same goes for fighting units)
- use control groups/hotkey your buildings if you already don't

-for terran you may encounter the problem of having idle workers... (or not) to prevent this shift queue up actions
Ex: set an scv to build a building then hold down shift and right click on a mineral patch so it goes back to work once the building is done

I recommend just lots of practice; pick a build order and use it a lot (adjust for what you scout)
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
December 06 2010 22:38 GMT
#12
toss is the easiest race
also, being bronze and saynig your strength is your macro kind of makes me wonder
just play toss
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
December 06 2010 22:56 GMT
#13
play terran, they can man MMM all game, use scan to scout, put on early pressure, and hold off early pressure with ease.
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
December 06 2010 23:23 GMT
#14
Look mate, asking people what race should you please is a bit silly. At this stage of your race picking its easier just to go with whatever you feel best. At this time man, just pick one race, since you seem to like them all, pick one play with it until you reach where you want to be and if you get there and realize thats not the race you want, well go back choose another one of the two and repeat until you get the race you want.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 07 2010 00:30 GMT
#15
Don't pick Zerg.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
LunaZade
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
England30 Posts
December 07 2010 18:01 GMT
#16
Ok thank you for all you input and help you have all been very helpfull and i believe i will go with terran as i have been having fun with them last few days please add me you guys.
LunaTic.126
please add me so ic an play some games with good players so you can help please thank you all.
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
December 08 2010 00:05 GMT
#17
if you ever have an second thoughts, i still vote terran xD
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
December 08 2010 00:13 GMT
#18
On December 07 2010 07:38 OutlaW- wrote:
also, being bronze and saynig your strength is your macro kind of makes me wonder


Yeah and in the OP he states

- Build Units/building's to late or either to early.
- Very late game i seem to have no upgrades.

If you had any semblance of macro you'd probably be well into gold by now OP.

Just pick between terran or toss.
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 01:10:19
December 08 2010 00:47 GMT
#19
Instead of asking everyone what race you should play, why don't you just keep playing your favorite race? You will eventually get good and you will learn how to defend early pressure. Watch Day9TV if you have to. He's taught me a lot on how to play. If you feel like you aren't liking your race, switch. I started out as a Zerg player because I liked macroing up, but just got tired of all the constant Air Harass + Zerg wasn't my favorite race. I could fend off air harass with Queens for the most part, but it just got annoying having to that every game since Zerg's main anti-air sucks against almost any Terran if he's going Tanks or any Protoss if he's going Colossus. I'm now a Terran player and am liking much more than Zerg.

You're weaknesses aren't going to be magically fixed with changing a race either.

- Cant handle early pressure - Any race can handle it well, but Terran is the easiest to handle early pressure with in my opinion.
- With Zerg cant handle air pressure - Best for early on is Terran in my opinion.
- Forget to keep training workers - Changing races won't fix that, but training workers is easier with Toss/Terran as you don't have to worry about what to use your Larva on.
- Build Units/building's to late or either to early - Memorize build times or build orders.
- Micro is rather bad - It'll get better with time, but as far as Micro, I think Terran is the most micro-intensive. Zerg is just A-move your whole blob. Protoss can A-move as well if they go Warpgate units + colossus, but other builds require more micro.
- Very late game i seem to have no upgrades - You have to do this on your own. Nothing we can do to help. Terran benefits the most from upgrades though, so you'll be shooting yourself in the foot if you don't. Reason I say Terran benefits the most is because Terran uses tier 1 units almost the entire game and tier 1 with no upgrades if fodder for anything tier 2 and up.
- Dont seem to get higher tier units - Tier 3 isn't really needed as Terran. BCs are usually a waste of money. Thors can be useful though, but you'll most likely get an armory if you're getting tanks (since one upgrade is +5 damage), so these should usually be available.
- Never scout around mid/end game - Start scouting then. Stim a marine and set waypoints for it.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 08 2010 04:14 GMT
#20
Pick Zerg; it'll blow everyone's mind.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
December 08 2010 14:41 GMT
#21
What I wanted to say is said by someone else:

On December 08 2010 13:14 ninazerg wrote:
Pick Zerg; it'll blow everyone's mind.


Lol do it.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
December 08 2010 14:48 GMT
#22
aww man no love for zerg?(
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 08 2010 15:06 GMT
#23
How about, pick whatever race and work on your fundamental? All the problem you listed indicate you have weak mechanic(which most bronze leaguers are)
My advices:
Get your fundamental done right. Things like training workers, building supply etc. These things need practice(alot) Try to establish a rythm to it and follow that rythm
Watch replay of high level play.
Watch Day9
Learn some BO.
Don't try to win, try to improve
Terran
LunaZade
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
England30 Posts
December 08 2010 17:06 GMT
#24
Ni im defiantly not going to go Zerg protoss or terran is for me and if people add me to play against me with them they can help me choose so if any one has time for that please let me know x
lastmotion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
368 Posts
December 08 2010 19:44 GMT
#25
On December 07 2010 07:09 Drey wrote:
terran ?:D


incredibly easy to play, one strategy-for-all MMM, kind of thing

For Protoss macro, you can't macro without going to a place powered by pylons to create units from hotkey'd warpgates. Effective + Constant use of Chronoboost is really diiffcult too. And you need to try different strategies, 4 gate, 2 gate robo, and put an Observer in his base asap and react accordingly

with Terran, if you forgot to use mules, you can save them up and use them all at once when you take a gold expo or something. You don't even have to go back to your base screen to macro.
LunaZade
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
England30 Posts
December 08 2010 20:18 GMT
#26
ok soo terran is a popular demand so i think ill get down to work on that please add me though LunaTic.126 please so i can get help off you all :D
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