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Poll: Should Fork now be made to write a blog on his first BJ?Yes. Under pain of ban. (55) 89% No. I have Day9's beat-off story and its all I'll ever need. (5) 8% What is a Brazilian Jiu? (2) 3% 62 total votes Your vote: Should Fork now be made to write a blog on his first BJ? (Vote): Yes. Under pain of ban.
(Vote): No. I have Day9's beat-off story and its all I'll ever need.
(Vote): What is a Brazilian Jiu?
+ Show Spoiler +nice fight btw 
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Yes ofc @ above poll, content did not deliver ~.~
Still a cool video even though I have no idea what's going on =)
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Never knew BJ also stood for Brazilian Jitsu..... just couldn't have known...
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I demand a thread on your first BJ
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pretty cool. I like that move at 2:22
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This blog got entirely fucked over hahahah
seriously though lets hear about that first BJ
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Calgary26004 Posts
Whoa. Only 3 weeks? That looked really good for only 3 weeks...
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Russian Federation1401 Posts
On November 30 2010 10:15 News wrote:
You should have waited for another 6 months before videotaping yourself, looks like two 15-year-olds wrestling each other at a family meeting. On the other hand if you will keep posting these it might become a nice little reminder of how bad you used to be and how much you've improved. Why did you pick bjj? Or do you not live in Russia?
I didn't specifically videotape myself, but other people were videotaping everybody. I don't really care about the quality of the fight, just wanted to share the experience. I suppose I'll get better with time.
I live in Madrid, Spain. Bjj is not popular around here yet, but I've always wanted to train it and only just know I have found a schedule that made sense for me.
On November 30 2010 10:39 wrestlingfool08 wrote:you don't necessarily have to close the guard to not get passed. i'm a beginner (with wrestling background) and i've found z guard and butterfly guard to work well. also, work on dem take downs because as a former wrestler those were hard to watch haha you did a nice job getting the arm triangle at the end, though. if you had better technique you totally would've won the fight with that. anywho, from beginner to beginner, gj and gl with training
Thanks! I did win the fight on points btw. Side control + mount is like 7 points, which is more than he got. My limited knowledge resumed to the fact that I knew I had to step in to the right with the arm triangle, but I didn't know what to do when I wasn't fully choking him out. I looked up to the teammates and they were all gesturing me to move forward with my legs, but I couldn't understand what they were saying :D
On November 30 2010 11:10 Subversion wrote:Poll: Should Fork now be made to write a blog on his first BJ?Yes. Under pain of ban. (55) 89% No. I have Day9's beat-off story and its all I'll ever need. (5) 8% What is a Brazilian Jiu? (2) 3% 62 total votes Your vote: Should Fork now be made to write a blog on his first BJ? (Vote): Yes. Under pain of ban.
(Vote): No. I have Day9's beat-off story and its all I'll ever need.
(Vote): What is a Brazilian Jiu?
+ Show Spoiler +nice fight btw
I don't think my first BJ was that epic... But since TL has spoken, I can just embelish it a bit 
On November 30 2010 13:10 Chill wrote:
Whoa. Only 3 weeks? That looked really good for only 3 weeks...
I do have 4 years of Muay Thai training. Even though it's not a ground fighting style, and most tecniques are totally different, I do have the right training mindset.
Thanks for the comments guys and sorry for the BJ troll :D
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Not bad for 3 weeks. I assume you had no ground exp prior?
I know you already know this, but work on getting comfortable off your back. Once you have a good guard game, everything flows from there. You won't have to go for takedowns necessarily, but you can pull guard. Your weakest points just seem to be your closed guard and getting the fight to the ground.
Really though, all you need is more exp. 3 weeks isn't a lot of time to learn anything really.
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Read the title from the index, and thought "I bet that guy tried to so hard to ensure "my first ever BJ.." shows up from the forum tab"
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Russian Federation1401 Posts
On November 30 2010 22:00 Slayer91 wrote:
Read the title from the index, and thought "I bet that guy tried to so hard to ensure "my first ever BJ.." shows up from the forum tab"
it was pure accident
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I don't know about BJJ too much. But fight seems quite legit for white belt tournament. That choke of you in the 3rd minute or so is so effective. It makes you tap out in literally 5 seconds. "His one arm chokes one side of throat and you choke of other side" one. If you could maintain that, it could easily get you win.
And, I'll talk about more on mindset, not the technique part. You were so aggressive in the fight, and even worse, you're so reckless. Diving in the first second is not the best decision ever. If you dive that recklessly without measuring your opponent, it's bad and you give your opponent enough time to just react on diving and do nothing else.
EDIT: Yes, you may have the mindset for Muay Thai, but it's not like Muay Thai so you can't continuously poke your opponent at a grappling style martial arts. Even if you can, it's definitely not the right way. And I have a friend doing BJJ (I do capoeira btw, which is also a brazilian martial art, but a lot more funky one) .
EDIT 2: I don't know about how exactly popular BJJ is in Madrid-Spain, but my capoeira group has a lot of academies in Spain (actually a Mestre lives in Valladolid) and most of the instructors in Spain who are Brazilian born know BJJ as well.
On November 30 2010 09:20 LazyMacro wrote:
"my first ever BJ...."
Edit: I'm watching the video now. It's cool. :D
What's a white belt mean? I mean, what level is that?
White belt is the very first level. There are 5 levels in BJJ if I remember correctly:
1- White
2- Blue
3- Purple
4- I don't remember, red maybe
5- Black
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On November 30 2010 19:02 SF-Fork wrote:
I do have 4 years of Muay Thai training. Even though it's not a ground fighting style, and most tecniques are totally different, I do have the right training mindset.
4 years of muay thai is a lot. Given how much time you've spent in clinches you probably weren't that unprepared for a few rounds of BJJ. I know this firsthand because in muay thai you progress really fast, physically and mentally.
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Russian Federation1401 Posts
On November 30 2010 23:36 Metalwing wrote:I don't know about BJJ too much. But fight seems quite legit for white belt tournament. That choke of you in the 3rd minute or so is so effective. It makes you tap out in literally 5 seconds. "His one arm chokes one side of throat and you choke of other side" one. If you could maintain that, it could easily get you win. And, I'll talk about more on mindset, not the technique part. You were so aggressive in the fight, and even worse, you're so reckless. Diving in the first second is not the best decision ever. If you dive that recklessly without measuring your opponent, it's bad and you give your opponent enough time to just react on diving and do nothing else. EDIT: Yes, you may have the mindset for Muay Thai, but it's not like Muay Thai so you can't continuously poke your opponent at a grappling style martial arts. Even if you can, it's definitely not the right way. And I have a friend doing BJJ (I do capoeira btw, which is also a brazilian martial art, but a lot more funky one) . EDIT 2: I don't know about how exactly popular BJJ is in Madrid-Spain, but my capoeira group has a lot of academies in Spain (actually a Mestre lives in Valladolid) and most of the instructors in Spain who are Brazilian born know BJJ as well. Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 09:20 LazyMacro wrote:
"my first ever BJ...."
Edit: I'm watching the video now. It's cool. :D
What's a white belt mean? I mean, what level is that? White belt is the very first level. There are 5 levels in BJJ if I remember correctly: 1- White 2- Blue 3- Purple 4- I don't remember, red maybe 5- Black
Actually the diving part was more or less thought out. It was an interclub tournment, but I had the luck (or the bad luck) to be paired with a guy from my own gym, and I knew him pretty well. I didn't really have much success vs him anytime we rolled together, maybe a few guard passes and that's it. On the stand up though, I managed to take him down single-leg a couple of times (I haven't really trained this takedown properly as you can see, but it did work on him) When I saw we were paired together, I thought that if I do it fast enough, I will catch him by surprise. I guess it didn't work.
Capoeira on the other hand is quite popular here. I've been to a couple of ''roda'' they call it, when they dance, jump, fight a round and sing a beat drums. The level seems pretty awesome, and there usually are a lot of people.
As for BJJ, it still hasn't exploded here. Werdum was teaching in Madrid 6 years back or so. There's a Gracie in Barcelona, and there are about 2-3 legit black belts in some of the major cities. I hear there's good level in the Canary Islands as well. In Madrid in any case, a 5 million people city, there are like 3-4 legit high-level instructors only.
Thanks for the comments!!
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Advice from 4 year no gi BJJ/Muy Thai practitioner under Dave Ginsburg at 65 kgs:
1) Slow and steady wins the race for the better roller. If you trust your preparation, go slowly and work him down right where you want him bit by bit.
2) I will never understand why people shoot so early in matches. You have so much time and unless you have a strong takedown, a la wrestling background, it is universally better to try to clinch and go down slowly at lower levels.
3) NEVER GIVE UP YOUR BACK!
4) Guard your neck. It is a good habit to develop early and your opponent had a dozen guillotine or scarf hold possibilities in the first 2 minutes alone. Your neck should always be touching a shoulder or your chest and you should be curling to the side its touching.
5) if he gives you an open guard, put your hands on one of his knees and smash it to the center, stick your butt, high, and pass as slowly as possible. You need your other hand holding the opposite side gi very tightly.
6) Arms (and legs once you move up) should never be extended so you have less than 30% to fully outstretched. Anytime your arm is straight it is a free submission.
7) When you get a person into that comfortable sidelong scarf hold, go to back mount. Real men finish from back mount everytime ;-). Grab his wrist on the arm being held close to his face with your far hand and pull it across his body. Then you can let go with your other hand and just pull him back on top of you. Easy money.
You seem to be thinking like a fighter and not a roller, which is to say, every limb can be exploited, every move has a weakness. Play a slow, reactive game, where every move he makes, you exploit. He shrimps in side guard, you go to north-south, he opens his guard, you peel a leg. There are no preset plans until your opponent moves other than eventually get to back mount.
Also, newcomers are weakest on their back, so either have a decent top game or just a strong bottom game and you will have a lot of success. Always go position before submission. Everytime you should be trying to get to back mount. You will win on points, at least.
EDIT: Clarification
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Hey, good-head arm choke.
To finish, i think you need to drop your hips and start moving around towards the head.
For your first fight that was quite good i thought, with time and practice you will become more controlled.
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Looks tough as hell. One wrong move and it could be all over.
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as you've only been training 3 weeks that looked fun, but as someone who's trained for 4 years, my main tip is always: slow down, its not about speed, it's about technique
no matter how fast u spin around and dive around unless ur tight and putting the right pressure with ur hips you'll never pass, you wont get the takedowns, etc.
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Russian Federation1401 Posts
thanks for the advice guys. I'll keep on working. The truth is I am really enjoying the bjj class, and right now I have a lot of free time I can use for more training. Just yesterday I rolled with a guy that on my first time with him he choked me with my own gi 4 times in 5 minutes. On our second rolling though, I was able to resist any form of sub even though he dominated, so I am happy with my progress.
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It's a match not a fight.
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