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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
Just wanted to share my first bjj fight. -85kg white belt with gi. I am the blond haired guy. Don't critisize too much, we're only white belts! And yes, I don't close guard and get passed with ease. Need to work on that... EDIT: The sidebar title was not intended    | ||
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LazyMacro
976 Posts
Edit: I'm watching the video now. It's cool. :D What's a white belt mean? I mean, what level is that? | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
Regardless, watching the fight now, and seems pretty good! You'd whip my ass, that's for sure. | ||
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iloahz
United States964 Posts
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
Cool vid. You're 85kg? Look like less no? Thats what like 185-190 pounds? | ||
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
How can I change the blog title to expand bjj into brazilian jiu jitsu?? | ||
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
On November 30 2010 09:25 Reason.SC2 wrote: Hahaha the sidebar title is amazing. How an extra few letters can make a difference. Cool vid. You're 85kg? Look like less no? Thats what like 185-190 pounds? I'm 191 cm tall. | ||
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GreatFall
United States1061 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/5NZ1x.jpg) :O  ROFL gratz by the way :D edit: i think this is gonna get tons of hits | ||
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seRapH
United States9776 Posts
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Suc
Australia1569 Posts
Congrats on your first fight mate. | ||
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G_Wen
Canada525 Posts
On November 30 2010 09:31 emperorchampion wrote: :O ROFL gratz by the way :D edit: i think this is gonna get tons of hits Excellent! Would read again. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Great work dude :D | ||
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Thrill
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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buhhy
United States1113 Posts
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
On November 30 2010 09:31 emperorchampion wrote: :O ROFL gratz by the way :D edit: i think this is gonna get tons of hits should have said 191cm long. I don't even speak english that well hahaha | ||
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TheGrimace
United States929 Posts
Also, not so bad. Looks tiring. Good luck with it! | ||
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iSiN
United States1075 Posts
...OH SHIT JU JITSU? | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
And yes, I'm talking about the side bar title. | ||
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
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hejakev
Sweden518 Posts
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + gj though | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
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Duckvillelol
Australia1253 Posts
Interesting video! Reminds me of the other night when I watched UFC for the first time ever! :O | ||
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blue_arrow
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
watching video now watched video, interesting... wouldnt take those moves to a street fight just yet though | ||
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Shinshady
Canada1237 Posts
Good luck and keep working at it, I'm sure you can go far | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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news
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
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wrestlingfool08
United States139 Posts
anywho, from beginner to beginner, gj and gl with training | ||
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Frigo
Hungary1023 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27156 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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`Zapdos
United States935 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
Poll: Should Fork now be made to write a blog on his first BJ? Yes. Under pain of ban. (55) No. I have Day9's beat-off story and its all I'll ever need. (5) What is a Brazilian Jiu? (2) 62 total votes Your vote: Should Fork now be made to write a blog on his first BJ? (Vote): Yes. Under pain of ban. + Show Spoiler + nice fight btw | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
Still a cool video even though I have no idea what's going on =) | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2593 Posts
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jamesr12
United States1549 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
seriously though lets hear about that first BJ | ||
Chill
Calgary25989 Posts
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
On November 30 2010 10:15 News wrote: You should have waited for another 6 months before videotaping yourself, looks like two 15-year-olds wrestling each other at a family meeting. On the other hand if you will keep posting these it might become a nice little reminder of how bad you used to be and how much you've improved. Why did you pick bjj? Or do you not live in Russia? I didn't specifically videotape myself, but other people were videotaping everybody. I don't really care about the quality of the fight, just wanted to share the experience. I suppose I'll get better with time. I live in Madrid, Spain. Bjj is not popular around here yet, but I've always wanted to train it and only just know I have found a schedule that made sense for me. On November 30 2010 10:39 wrestlingfool08 wrote: you don't necessarily have to close the guard to not get passed. i'm a beginner (with wrestling background) and i've found z guard and butterfly guard to work well. also, work on dem take downs because as a former wrestler those were hard to watch haha you did a nice job getting the arm triangle at the end, though. if you had better technique you totally would've won the fight with that. anywho, from beginner to beginner, gj and gl with training Thanks! I did win the fight on points btw. Side control + mount is like 7 points, which is more than he got. My limited knowledge resumed to the fact that I knew I had to step in to the right with the arm triangle, but I didn't know what to do when I wasn't fully choking him out. I looked up to the teammates and they were all gesturing me to move forward with my legs, but I couldn't understand what they were saying :D On November 30 2010 11:10 Subversion wrote: Poll: Should Fork now be made to write a blog on his first BJ? Yes. Under pain of ban. (55) No. I have Day9's beat-off story and its all I'll ever need. (5) What is a Brazilian Jiu? (2) 62 total votes Your vote: Should Fork now be made to write a blog on his first BJ? (Vote): Yes. Under pain of ban. + Show Spoiler + nice fight btw I don't think my first BJ was that epic... But since TL has spoken, I can just embelish it a bit On November 30 2010 13:10 Chill wrote: Whoa. Only 3 weeks? That looked really good for only 3 weeks... I do have 4 years of Muay Thai training. Even though it's not a ground fighting style, and most tecniques are totally different, I do have the right training mindset. Thanks for the comments guys and sorry for the BJ troll :D | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
I know you already know this, but work on getting comfortable off your back. Once you have a good guard game, everything flows from there. You won't have to go for takedowns necessarily, but you can pull guard. Your weakest points just seem to be your closed guard and getting the fight to the ground. Really though, all you need is more exp. 3 weeks isn't a lot of time to learn anything really. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
On November 30 2010 22:00 Slayer91 wrote: Read the title from the index, and thought "I bet that guy tried to so hard to ensure "my first ever BJ.." shows up from the forum tab" it was pure accident | ||
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Metalwing
Turkey1038 Posts
And, I'll talk about more on mindset, not the technique part. You were so aggressive in the fight, and even worse, you're so reckless. Diving in the first second is not the best decision ever. If you dive that recklessly without measuring your opponent, it's bad and you give your opponent enough time to just react on diving and do nothing else. EDIT: Yes, you may have the mindset for Muay Thai, but it's not like Muay Thai so you can't continuously poke your opponent at a grappling style martial arts. Even if you can, it's definitely not the right way. And I have a friend doing BJJ (I do capoeira btw, which is also a brazilian martial art, but a lot more funky one) . EDIT 2: I don't know about how exactly popular BJJ is in Madrid-Spain, but my capoeira group has a lot of academies in Spain (actually a Mestre lives in Valladolid) and most of the instructors in Spain who are Brazilian born know BJJ as well. On November 30 2010 09:20 LazyMacro wrote: "my first ever BJ...." Edit: I'm watching the video now. It's cool. :D What's a white belt mean? I mean, what level is that? White belt is the very first level. There are 5 levels in BJJ if I remember correctly: 1- White 2- Blue 3- Purple 4- I don't remember, red maybe 5- Black | ||
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news
892 Posts
On November 30 2010 19:02 SF-Fork wrote: I do have 4 years of Muay Thai training. Even though it's not a ground fighting style, and most tecniques are totally different, I do have the right training mindset. 4 years of muay thai is a lot. Given how much time you've spent in clinches you probably weren't that unprepared for a few rounds of BJJ. I know this firsthand because in muay thai you progress really fast, physically and mentally. | ||
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
On November 30 2010 23:36 Metalwing wrote: I don't know about BJJ too much. But fight seems quite legit for white belt tournament. That choke of you in the 3rd minute or so is so effective. It makes you tap out in literally 5 seconds. "His one arm chokes one side of throat and you choke of other side" one. If you could maintain that, it could easily get you win. And, I'll talk about more on mindset, not the technique part. You were so aggressive in the fight, and even worse, you're so reckless. Diving in the first second is not the best decision ever. If you dive that recklessly without measuring your opponent, it's bad and you give your opponent enough time to just react on diving and do nothing else. EDIT: Yes, you may have the mindset for Muay Thai, but it's not like Muay Thai so you can't continuously poke your opponent at a grappling style martial arts. Even if you can, it's definitely not the right way. And I have a friend doing BJJ (I do capoeira btw, which is also a brazilian martial art, but a lot more funky one) . EDIT 2: I don't know about how exactly popular BJJ is in Madrid-Spain, but my capoeira group has a lot of academies in Spain (actually a Mestre lives in Valladolid) and most of the instructors in Spain who are Brazilian born know BJJ as well. White belt is the very first level. There are 5 levels in BJJ if I remember correctly: 1- White 2- Blue 3- Purple 4- I don't remember, red maybe 5- Black Actually the diving part was more or less thought out. It was an interclub tournment, but I had the luck (or the bad luck) to be paired with a guy from my own gym, and I knew him pretty well. I didn't really have much success vs him anytime we rolled together, maybe a few guard passes and that's it. On the stand up though, I managed to take him down single-leg a couple of times (I haven't really trained this takedown properly as you can see, but it did work on him) When I saw we were paired together, I thought that if I do it fast enough, I will catch him by surprise. I guess it didn't work. Capoeira on the other hand is quite popular here. I've been to a couple of ''roda'' they call it, when they dance, jump, fight a round and sing a beat drums. The level seems pretty awesome, and there usually are a lot of people. As for BJJ, it still hasn't exploded here. Werdum was teaching in Madrid 6 years back or so. There's a Gracie in Barcelona, and there are about 2-3 legit black belts in some of the major cities. I hear there's good level in the Canary Islands as well. In Madrid in any case, a 5 million people city, there are like 3-4 legit high-level instructors only. Thanks for the comments!! | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
1) Slow and steady wins the race for the better roller. If you trust your preparation, go slowly and work him down right where you want him bit by bit. 2) I will never understand why people shoot so early in matches. You have so much time and unless you have a strong takedown, a la wrestling background, it is universally better to try to clinch and go down slowly at lower levels. 3) NEVER GIVE UP YOUR BACK! 4) Guard your neck. It is a good habit to develop early and your opponent had a dozen guillotine or scarf hold possibilities in the first 2 minutes alone. Your neck should always be touching a shoulder or your chest and you should be curling to the side its touching. 5) if he gives you an open guard, put your hands on one of his knees and smash it to the center, stick your butt, high, and pass as slowly as possible. You need your other hand holding the opposite side gi very tightly. 6) Arms (and legs once you move up) should never be extended so you have less than 30% to fully outstretched. Anytime your arm is straight it is a free submission. 7) When you get a person into that comfortable sidelong scarf hold, go to back mount. Real men finish from back mount everytime ;-). Grab his wrist on the arm being held close to his face with your far hand and pull it across his body. Then you can let go with your other hand and just pull him back on top of you. Easy money. You seem to be thinking like a fighter and not a roller, which is to say, every limb can be exploited, every move has a weakness. Play a slow, reactive game, where every move he makes, you exploit. He shrimps in side guard, you go to north-south, he opens his guard, you peel a leg. There are no preset plans until your opponent moves other than eventually get to back mount. Also, newcomers are weakest on their back, so either have a decent top game or just a strong bottom game and you will have a lot of success. Always go position before submission. Everytime you should be trying to get to back mount. You will win on points, at least. EDIT: Clarification | ||
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randleplex
Australia14 Posts
To finish, i think you need to drop your hips and start moving around towards the head. For your first fight that was quite good i thought, with time and practice you will become more controlled. | ||
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Dance.
United States389 Posts
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opsayo
591 Posts
no matter how fast u spin around and dive around unless ur tight and putting the right pressure with ur hips you'll never pass, you wont get the takedowns, etc. | ||
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
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statix
United States1760 Posts
It was hard to tell from the angle but it looked like you just made a few technical errors with your head and arm choke at the end. It looked like you had your right hand behind your left elbow and your left hand on your right bicep. This creates a bit too much space to finish the choke. You needed your left bicep right on his neck (as opposed to the crux of your elbow from what it looked like in the vid) and your left hand on your right bicep. It looked like you were pushing down his his left arm with your head which is good since thats what cuts off the blood from the other side of his neck. Like your team and others have said in the thread you also needed to scoot your legs out towards his head and kinda crunch your body towards him. I've trained for about three years myself and it's good to see more people picking up the sport. | ||
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SF-Fork
Russian Federation1401 Posts
I've hurt my elbow two weeks ago and I've been going easy at it these past few days. Last Thursday it seemed pretty ok, so I trained with more intensity. Mistake, shoulder hurts again. Anyways, I was sparring with a lighter partner who hurt his ribcage muscles from doing pull-ups in the gym and we were doing so in a friendly light no-injury fashion. I took sidecontrol without pressuring him too much, and he kindly asked me to work the side control on his left instead of his right. I switched and we kept rolling, even with some fancy moves and little amount of strength. I mean, we're team mates right? you have to take care of your team mates! Coach asks me: how's the shoulder? -a bit sore, was my answer. -Fénix, he says (because the guy calls ''himself'' Fenix, yeah the one that loses to me in the video on the OP) Spar with him and go light because his shoulder is hurt. Ok we say... Fenix asks: which shoulder hurts? -The right one. Inmediately he grabs my arm+shoulder with both hands and pulls to the side, actually hurting me quite a bit. We scramble, he takes side control, I escape, and we end up in the beggining position again. Without thinking it much, he goes for the same move, grabbing my hurt shoulder and arm, and pulling to the side with considerable intensity. We scramble again a bit, he ends up taking my back and I tap via gi choke. We usually spar for 5 minutes with each person, and this went on for like 3 so we had time to roll again, but I refused. Telling him (in russian so people wouldn't overhear) that what he did isn't right, and that because of him I might miss next training. He goes on publicly saying that people who are hurt should not roll. At the end of class he comes up to me and says: if it hurts, tap. Don't be stupid. Also, at the next training session, a couple of hours later (I go to both), a guy breaks... literally snaps his leg like a twig. We don't understand how it happened, his opponen wasn't applying any pressure or lock on the leg, it seems that somehow the combined body weights of both guys applied pressure on the leg unintentionally. That will need surgery, poor guy. Not a good day today in my BJJ class. | ||
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WindOw
Sweden407 Posts
Anyway on the more serious note, the match was pretty slow but ur only white belt... What techniques did u practice so far? Imo u had a a oppertunity around the end to make him tap ... I would recommend you to go over the basics of shooting cause ur first (and only) shoot on him was not that great... You need to straighten your back and be at a closer range before attempting to shoot, in this case you should have tried to place your left knee between his legs (bent) and your right one momentarily against the floor while you shoot forward and up against him, then place your arms around his thighs so u can pull him up without too much strength needed, using the positioning of your legs to maximize your lifting power. Go over the correct way to do it slowly and practice it more and more. Shooting is one of the best techniques in BJJ imo =] | ||
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Lexpar
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