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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
November 10 2010 17:57 GMT
#1
Hello everyone,
With the new season coming I was planning on buying a snowboard to take with me on my trip this winter.
I've been looking around and I think I'm going to buy this one: http://ridesnowboards.com/snowboards/antic

Now my question is should I buy the 62W or 60 or 58 or 58W ? :p I'm about 1m81 and at 75 kg(shoesize 11). I've heard different sides to the story. I'm planning to be mostly on the slopes although I do want to start doing jumps. One guy said I should buy the 62W because I'll have more stability and I'll be able to go faster. Then another salesman said I should buy the 58 or 60 because it is better to do freestyle. (But I never did that before so...)

Does the length of a snowboard really matter that much? I want some personal experience from you guys who have bought a snowboard first hand. Because everything I've heard contradicts :s :p

Thank you

decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
November 10 2010 18:24 GMT
#2
In general longer = faster and shorter = trix n shit

I've also heard that you should go with one that measures up to about your nose.

I dont think it will make a huge difference though
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
November 10 2010 18:33 GMT
#3
If you're going to be staying mostly on groomed mountains and getting into some park riding, I think the 158W or 160 would be best. Longer boards are better for deeper snow and back country riding.

The 160 has a waist of 251mm, while the 158 wide has a waist of 262mm, but with a size 11 shoe overhang and drag won't be an issue, so it will be more about your preference.
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jamesr12
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 18:40:49
November 10 2010 18:37 GMT
#4
sive 11 foot and only 165 lbs, you defitnaly do not want a wide board so scratch those to off right away.

Length depends on experince and what you want to with the board. Based on the fact you are asking for help and going on a trip opposed to riding all winter im going to assume you have realtivtly little experince.

Personally I am 5'10 about 185, have lots of experince and ride a 160. You are a little taller weigh less then me and im guessing less experinced. Id say the 160 would be a good choice based on what you have said. You could go with the 157 if you really want to start riding park or glades. Id say get the 160.

Edit: as said below, you defitnaly went to rent/borrow if this is your first time as a lot of people go once or twice and hate it (I dont understand why)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=306479
Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
November 10 2010 18:38 GMT
#5
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.
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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 19:02:31
November 10 2010 18:59 GMT
#6
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.


I've been snowboarding for 2 years now. (So +/- 20 days ?) Always rented but now I want to start learning tricks and stuff. So I was looking for a fairly good board that'll last me a few years while I get better etc.


Thanks for the advice so far folks . It's really a hard decision for a poor student such as myself.

EDIT: I'm freaking loving it so far jamesr.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
November 10 2010 19:12 GMT
#7
As a side note, you should check out Ride's Machete board. It's about $30 more, but it's definitely a better board. It's a similar aesthetic to the Antic, but it has won Snowboarder magazine's #1 "best of" two years in a row.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 21:03:37
November 10 2010 19:13 GMT
#8
I am 5'11 145 pounds size 11 foot and I have a 163 burton t6 '05, as well as a 144* board for tricks. I recommend you follow the advice others gave you, but I have to add one thing - your stance. Stance is the most important thing for determining what width of board to get (besides foot size/weight of course). My stance is a very strong duck stance, -37/31, so a relatively narrow board like the t6 is perfect for me. If you have a flat stance, or only a partial duck, then get a wide model. If you have a duck stance, then get a narrower board, in my experience they are a lot more nimble on the slopes. I wouldn't recommending a board that is too long it really hinders your ability to do tricks and if you are a relative beginner it is harder to control. Like other have said, you're most likely not going into 3 foot powder, so a short board is better for you. Learn the basics, have the ability to do tricks, and more maneuverability.
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
November 10 2010 19:15 GMT
#9
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.

Read the OP he said he has been snowboarding for 2 years kthnx.

Although 58w is probably what I'd recommend as well, simply because you probably don't know your stance affinity yet (most people fine-tune it only after they get their board). 58w would be the safer option especially since (statistically) most people have angles over -15 and below 10 on your feet respectively (assuming you aren't goofy)
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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 19:24:46
November 10 2010 19:21 GMT
#10
On November 11 2010 04:15 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.

Read the OP he said he has been snowboarding for 2 years kthnx.

Although 58w is probably what I'd recommend as well, simply because you probably don't know your stance affinity yet (most people fine-tune it only after they get their board). 58w would be the safer option especially since (statistically) most people have angles over -15 and below 10 on your feet respectively (assuming you aren't goofy)


I'm riding goofy and I'm pretty sure I ride slightly duck...

Although I usually fiddle a bit with the stance because it's different from board to board(rentals).

Do those extra 1 or 2 centimeters on a wide really matter that much though? Otherwise I'd just go with the 60.
Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
November 10 2010 19:28 GMT
#11
On November 11 2010 04:15 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.

Read the OP he said he has been snowboarding for 2 years kthnx.

Although 58w is probably what I'd recommend as well, simply because you probably don't know your stance affinity yet (most people fine-tune it only after they get their board). 58w would be the safer option especially since (statistically) most people have angles over -15 and below 10 on your feet respectively (assuming you aren't goofy)


Way to call me out on something that's incorrect... (he said 2 years in response to me)

OP: I'm sure you'll enjoy your new board either way! Any all-around board that is a medium length will be fine in groomers/park if you are only spending around 10 days a year on snow (so don't care about huge jumps/half-pipe, powder, backpacking). It will also be miles better than any rental board.
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
November 10 2010 19:32 GMT
#12
On November 11 2010 04:21 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 04:15 Murderotica wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.

Read the OP he said he has been snowboarding for 2 years kthnx.

Although 58w is probably what I'd recommend as well, simply because you probably don't know your stance affinity yet (most people fine-tune it only after they get their board). 58w would be the safer option especially since (statistically) most people have angles over -15 and below 10 on your feet respectively (assuming you aren't goofy)


I'm riding goofy and I'm pretty sure I ride slightly duck...

Although I usually fiddle a bit with the stance because it's different from board to board(rentals).

Do those extra 1 or 2 centimeters on a wide really matter that much though? Otherwise I'd just go with the 60.

60 could be fine in terms of width but you said you wanted to hit the park so that's why I recommend the shorter board

~MichaelJ my bad I am sleep deprived
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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
November 10 2010 20:24 GMT
#13
On November 11 2010 04:21 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 04:15 Murderotica wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.

Read the OP he said he has been snowboarding for 2 years kthnx.

Although 58w is probably what I'd recommend as well, simply because you probably don't know your stance affinity yet (most people fine-tune it only after they get their board). 58w would be the safer option especially since (statistically) most people have angles over -15 and below 10 on your feet respectively (assuming you aren't goofy)


I'm riding goofy and I'm pretty sure I ride slightly duck...

Although I usually fiddle a bit with the stance because it's different from board to board(rentals).

Do those extra 1 or 2 centimeters on a wide really matter that much though? Otherwise I'd just go with the 60.

With a size 11 you'll be fine on a standard profile board unless you have some really extreme stance, and even then you could probably get away with just using risers. You'll be fine with the 60 (but you really should check out the Machete)
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 20:41:15
November 10 2010 20:36 GMT
#14
On November 11 2010 05:24 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 04:21 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
On November 11 2010 04:15 Murderotica wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.

Read the OP he said he has been snowboarding for 2 years kthnx.

Although 58w is probably what I'd recommend as well, simply because you probably don't know your stance affinity yet (most people fine-tune it only after they get their board). 58w would be the safer option especially since (statistically) most people have angles over -15 and below 10 on your feet respectively (assuming you aren't goofy)


I'm riding goofy and I'm pretty sure I ride slightly duck...

Although I usually fiddle a bit with the stance because it's different from board to board(rentals).

Do those extra 1 or 2 centimeters on a wide really matter that much though? Otherwise I'd just go with the 60.

With a size 11 you'll be fine on a standard profile board unless you have some really extreme stance, and even then you could probably get away with just using risers. You'll be fine with the 60 (but you really should check out the Machete)


Just did actually... I think the Machete is a bit too freestyle for me?
Is there any reason you'd buy this one over the Antic that I don't know about?

Although I don't see much difference with the Antic except for the centered stance and twintip.
And I think it does look nicer than the Antic but ... :p

Edit: and like I said, I'll probably only be a couple of days in the park. The rest of the time I'll be going on the slopes/powder.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 20:45:57
November 10 2010 20:43 GMT
#15
On November 11 2010 05:36 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 05:24 BroOd wrote:
On November 11 2010 04:21 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
On November 11 2010 04:15 Murderotica wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.

Read the OP he said he has been snowboarding for 2 years kthnx.

Although 58w is probably what I'd recommend as well, simply because you probably don't know your stance affinity yet (most people fine-tune it only after they get their board). 58w would be the safer option especially since (statistically) most people have angles over -15 and below 10 on your feet respectively (assuming you aren't goofy)


I'm riding goofy and I'm pretty sure I ride slightly duck...

Although I usually fiddle a bit with the stance because it's different from board to board(rentals).

Do those extra 1 or 2 centimeters on a wide really matter that much though? Otherwise I'd just go with the 60.

With a size 11 you'll be fine on a standard profile board unless you have some really extreme stance, and even then you could probably get away with just using risers. You'll be fine with the 60 (but you really should check out the Machete)


Just did actually... I think the Machete is a bit too freestyle for me?
Is there any reason you'd buy this one over the Antic that I don't know about?

Although I don't see much difference with the Antic except for the centered stance and twintip.
And I think it does look nicer than the Antic but ... :p

Edit: and like I said, I'll probably only be a couple of days in the park. The rest of the time I'll be going on the slopes/powder.

Well, it's up to your preference, but remember you're probably not just going to use this board on one trip. If you do start moving over to more freestyle riding, I think you'll get more stability and a nicer spring out of the Machete. They're both all-mountain boards, so you'll be fine with either, but it's just something to think about.

http://fresh.snowboardermag.com/feature/best-of-test-2011-1-ride-machete/
http://boardreviews.com/ride-machete-2010/
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-10 21:03:21
November 10 2010 20:48 GMT
#16
On November 11 2010 05:24 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 04:21 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
On November 11 2010 04:15 Murderotica wrote:
On November 11 2010 03:38 Michaelj wrote:
i am 1m75, 80kg, shoe size 10 (US). I ride a 57 camber and a 55 rocker. a 62w is a bit on the longer side, but it will be great for going fast and cruising.

i think brood is correct that a 58w/60 would be fine. But most importantly, do you have any experience riding a snowboard? It's a huge mistake to buy a brand-new snowboard if you have never ridden before. You should definitely rent/borrow the first time, to make sure you actually like snowboarding.

Read the OP he said he has been snowboarding for 2 years kthnx.

Although 58w is probably what I'd recommend as well, simply because you probably don't know your stance affinity yet (most people fine-tune it only after they get their board). 58w would be the safer option especially since (statistically) most people have angles over -15 and below 10 on your feet respectively (assuming you aren't goofy)


I'm riding goofy and I'm pretty sure I ride slightly duck...

Although I usually fiddle a bit with the stance because it's different from board to board(rentals).

Do those extra 1 or 2 centimeters on a wide really matter that much though? Otherwise I'd just go with the 60.

With a size 11 you'll be fine on a standard profile board unless you have some really extreme stance, and even then you could probably get away with just using risers. You'll be fine with the 60 (but you really should check out the Machete)

I hated boarding with risers, its hard to explain but I guess I felt like I had less control over the board for some reason, might have just been those bindings though.

EDIT: Can we have board porn now? Here are my two beauties (not my actual boards they are back home collecting rust and have been for 3 years now T_T):

2000 144 Burton Custom
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2005 162 Burton T6
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Probably the best thing in the world is getting free boards if you break yours tbh
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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
November 10 2010 21:12 GMT
#17
Haha, those do look nice.

Do you and brood both live in the mountains? I always have to go on a trip to France or Austria or whatever to go snowboarding ...

Btw, if I go to the park I think I'll mostly try doing jumps and I thought I'd be better then to have a board the really drives through on the jump instead of the kinda "lowrize" machete?

Aargh such a hard choice... Been searching for a couple of weeks now.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
November 10 2010 21:16 GMT
#18
I live in New Jersey so I live next to some really shitty mountains that aren't worth the trip anymore. The closest decent mountain is in midstate NY, and that's 3-4 hours driving. The best local mountains are in Vermont/Quebec, and are 8-10 hours respectively. The reason I stopped snowboarding is pretty much because these shits are so far away and I no longer get free accomodations -_-; Too costly of a habit for me right now. I really do want to go this winter though for the first time in 3 years, would be awesome n_n; Saving up that money!
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 00:14:30
November 11 2010 00:13 GMT
#19
im working at mount snow in VT :D :D

and might be in the market for a new board myself except i know relatively little. Havent been on the mountain in years, this promises to be a wonderful winter. hope you come out with a beauty
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
November 11 2010 00:18 GMT
#20
Lucky bastard.
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