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But ya, I guess I agree. But only with the, "they're going to do something with the hydra in the expansion."
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
I 3rd that But ya, I guess I agree. But only with the, "they're going to do something with the hydra in the expansion." | ||
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slappy
United States1271 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 10 2010 03:30 MasterReY wrote: totally, just scrolled down rapidly looking for the first image^^ I guess Hydras aren't happy yet | ||
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thesideshow
930 Posts
On November 10 2010 03:26 Krigwin wrote: Did anyone else come in here expecting a comic like "The Happy Ultralisk" and was a little disappointed? me | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
Roaches are fine btw. They are almost the most micro intense unit that zerg has since infestors die too easily anyways(not calling them imba, I think they're fine) unless youre sneaking around in your opponents base. Not boring at all. | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
However I do agree the Hydra is kind of lacking. I hope they spice it up in HotS. | ||
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HaruHaru
United States988 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10681 Posts
On November 10 2010 03:26 Krigwin wrote: Did anyone else come in here expecting a comic like "The Happy Ultralisk" and was a little disappointed? There is next to no time in this game were Hydralisks are really happy... | ||
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Channel56k
United States413 Posts
Blizzard knows how to make a good game, there is no doubt and they are doing a good job on balance, however they know and care little about what the hydralisk was outside of its fan art portrayal. Most blizzard employees working on SC2 don't see the hydra like you do because they've never used it like you do. Imagine for a second if we transplanted the TL.net staff for the SC2 Devopment Staff and what sort of difference that would make. Hell they could not even name the units correctly portrayed in the *FAN ART* they made for Fruitdealer after having won the first GSL (the fan-art was awesome, but the text shows a clear misunderstanding of the units portrayed in it). A lot of people would say that isnt a big deal, yadda yadda. I used to agree. But, clearly, though blizzard is taking balance suggestions from people who obviously play this game competitively, they do not. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
Imo all the hydralisk needs is a speed upgrade off creep. Then suddenly its viable against protoss when you're playing the aggro, and can chase down the air units it defends against. I do believe this upgrade would require hive tech, or else you risk making the hydra too powerful, especially vs gateway tech | ||
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FrostOtter
United States537 Posts
On November 10 2010 03:34 Rickilicious wrote: Am i the only person who likes the roach? I think they're pretty cool. It's a very Blizzard name though unfortunately. Very uncreative and tbh, it resembles nothing of a roach, so why that name? Because cockroaches are supposed to be almost impossible to kill, and I think Blizzard was evoking that tenacity with the roaches' initial health + fast heal ability. | ||
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Durp
Canada3117 Posts
Imo all the hydralisk needs is a speed upgrade off creep. Then suddenly its viable against protoss when you're playing the aggro, and can chase down the air units it defends against. I do believe this upgrade would require hive tech, or else you risk making the hydra too powerful, especially vs gateway tech | ||
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universalwill
United States654 Posts
no blizzard doesn't have the same love for the hydra. they actually fucking hate zerg. they only fixed the damn race because every zerg player in existence gathered on their forums to constantly discuss how grossly broken the race was. the hydra has a nasty problem behind the design concept. if it gets buffed, it will be overpowered. its DPS is so ridiculously high that if it got a speed buff it would be insanely hard to beat. it's an amazing unit on creep, but creep is what handicaps it and keeps it balanced. i know i've seen some replays of Artosis getting a couple of queens early on, creeping the entire map really fast, and using hydras. you could try doing that. but no. blizzard is never going to buff the hydra. sorry man, not happening. and i don't appreciate your roach hate, either. roaches are way more exciting than hydras. they spit acid and move underground like the baller little covert-ops insects they are | ||
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Seide
United States831 Posts
I experienced the same feeling as you when I got SC2. 1st thing I did was tech to hydras and was met with dissapointment. Hydra was a staple unit in SC1, cheap, weaker, easy to mass produce. It was given a more specialized role in SC2 as a DPS unit made of paper. Its sad for all the people who used to love the hydra, but gotta deal with it. The roach takes over the hydra role in SC1 as the massable T1 unit, but unlike SC1, where enough hydras could pretty much handle everything, in SC2 they lack AA, so that is not the case. | ||
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andiCR
Costa Rica2273 Posts
good post  | ||
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
I think it would make a ton of sense for the hydra to get a morphable upgrade at tier 3 or even 2.5 (requires a tech structure or morph of the hydra den that obviously requires lair + den but not hive). Would like to see it as a beefy crowd control type unit that has long range but no air attack. Maybe something that gives zerg the option to control chokes the way that sentries/templar/siege tanks do now) | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Creep
United States229 Posts
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drlame
Sweden574 Posts
On November 10 2010 03:25 lastmotion wrote: Having a snare (slow) effect getting hit by Hydras seem pretty neat but then ZvP will turn really bad where Roach + Hydra will just tear through P army I dont think it will be that devasting in ZvT seeing how T has a unit that can slow also Yes, Hydras are pretty flawed, but I would advocate putting Hydras T1 and give them speed upgrade like BW. Maybe increase their DPS slightly too. Make them able to scale cliffs, move while burrowed(with increased regen), give them splash damage and increased hp, while we're at it. Geez some people are never satisfied. Hydras are not flawed. | ||
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latan
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On November 10 2010 03:15 Phay wrote: When I fired up my first game of Starcraft 2 last July, I chose Zerg and immediately began the tech to Hydras. “The new Hydra’s gonna be so badass!” I thought. you were wrong On November 10 2010 03:15 Phay wrote: They’ll get buffed! Or so I told myself. you were wrong On November 10 2010 03:15 Phay wrote: The answer dawned on me this morning. (...) the Hydra will get an evolution. They have to. give your track record i'd say that... | ||
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