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Now, before I tell you anything about insanity, the people who want me classified as insane have no validity to their argument.
There are some people who have heard about a psychological problem that I have had since I was little, and now they are trying to put me into an asylum so that I am "normal".
There argument is basically this:
You are not normal, and since you think in this particular way you are close enough to Dissociative Identity Disorder and Schitsofrenia that we are gonna tell your parents to put you into the asylum.
This may hint on what happens in my mind, but I would like to keep it a little more private.
Another part of their argument (these are former friends btw) is that if I don't go into an asylum (for a bit, like 3 months) I might go crazy and snap and act a specific way that I have very little control over.
So, any suggestions on to
1. Not get classified as insane
2. Not get thrown into an asylum?
edit:
ugh, really don wanna talk bout it, but I do have internet anonymity, so hell.
I basically have 2.5 people inside of my head
there is me, and then there are my two sides of equal reason, they are personified, and one of them is a bit more animalistic (literally and figuratively). People are concerned that I will just be %100 that side, which has happened before, and think I will go around attacking people and stuff
btw, don't respond to the user "Whitesheep" he is trolling
 
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Oo how old are you?
This doesn't make any sense. So your friends told you you should be treated? Go to an asylum (are there no shrinks in your area or what?) And you are afraid they tell your parents about whatever it is you have?
Yeah well.. fuck them? If you think you are fine you don't have to give a shit about what they say. But you should talk with your parents about it. If you don't think you are "insane", why would they? Or a shrink?
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On November 03 2010 09:29 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Oo how old are you?
This doesn't make any sense. So your friends told you you should be treated? Go to an asylum (are there no shrinks in your area or what?) And you are afraid they tell your parents about whatever it is you have?
Yeah well.. fuck them? If you think you are fine you don't have to give a shit about what they say. But you should talk with your parents about it. If you don't think you are "insane", why would they? Or a shrink?
one, what's a shrink? Two, I can acknowledge that I am psychologically abnormal, but not insane. I don't want to talk to my parents about it too much because they will just hound me with questions, and possibly send me to an asylum.
15 years old btw.
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I think everyone needs more details on what kind of 'insane' you are, as much as people would like to help there just isnt enough information here to suggest anything.
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Shrink is another word for therapist.
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You sound really paranoid.
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ugh, really don wanna talk bout it, but I do have internet anonymity, so hell.
I basically have 2.5 people inside of my head
there is me, and then there are my two sides of equal reason, they are personified, and one of them is a bit more animalistic (literally and figuratively). People are concerned that I will just be %100 that side, which has happened before, and think I will go around attacking people and stuff
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I got thrown into the looney bin against my will a few years ago. It was really a wake-up call to me. I had let a problem get worse and worse, telling myself that I could deal with it and that it wouldn't interfere with my life. It did. And while I was in there, I saw people much, much farther along than me who also hadn't taken steps to deal with it. One guy who I roomed with probably had something fairly similar to you. He thought he could keep it under control, but it got worse and worse until, I think was a junior in college at the time. he completely flipped out in front of all his friends and classmates and started ranted about things that weren't real. He scared a lot people that were close to him, and, worst of all, he doesn't remember any of it, including what brought it on.
At first I resisted all the help they tried to give me, but eventually gave into it, and it actually helped a lot. If you go voluntarily, and accept that these are people that are trying to help you, you might get a lot out of it. I'm not saying that you have to go in there and agree to change, but at least listen to what they have to say, and be 100% honest with them. If you are, chances are they'll let you out in three or four days for out-patient stuff.
Also, I don't know what the laws are in your state, or how old you are, but where it happened to me the rules were like this: if you get committed against your will, they can hold you for up to two weeks, after which you can get a lawyer to get you out, but it's very hard. If you go on your own accord, you can leave whenever you like. Also, the crazy person van is very uncomfortable, and they take away your shoelaces :-p.
Feel free to pm me if you want.
EDIT: Also, if anyone wants to pm me about this kind of stuff, feel free.
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So have your other sides ever displayed overly violent tendencies towards other people?
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On November 03 2010 09:35 Slaytesics wrote:
ugh, really don wanna talk bout it, but I do have internet anonymity, so hell.
I basically have 2.5 people inside of my head
there is me, and then there are my two sides of equal reason, they are personified, and one of them is a bit more animalistic (literally and figuratively). People are concerned that I will just be %100 that side, which has happened before, and think I will go around attacking people and stuff
Did you diagnose this yourself? If so, it is very well possible that you are imagining it. If not you should talk tt a therapist. He should decided if you should be admitted to an asylum.
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On November 03 2010 09:40 Yizuo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 09:35 Slaytesics wrote:
ugh, really don wanna talk bout it, but I do have internet anonymity, so hell.
I basically have 2.5 people inside of my head
there is me, and then there are my two sides of equal reason, they are personified, and one of them is a bit more animalistic (literally and figuratively). People are concerned that I will just be %100 that side, which has happened before, and think I will go around attacking people and stuff Did you diagnose this yourself? If so, it is very well possible that you are imagining it. If not you should talk tt a therapist. He should decided if you should be admitted to an asylum.
I have not imagined this, I have had this problem since I was six, and a few weeks ago I thought telling my close friends was a good idea.
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On November 03 2010 09:31 Slaytesics wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 09:29 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Oo how old are you?
This doesn't make any sense. So your friends told you you should be treated? Go to an asylum (are there no shrinks in your area or what?) And you are afraid they tell your parents about whatever it is you have?
Yeah well.. fuck them? If you think you are fine you don't have to give a shit about what they say. But you should talk with your parents about it. If you don't think you are "insane", why would they? Or a shrink? one, what's a shrink? Two, I can acknowledge that I am psychologically abnormal, but not insane. I don't want to talk to my parents about it too much because they will just hound me with questions, and possibly send me to an asylum. 15 years old btw.
I thought a shrink is a psychotherapist? English is not my first language t.t
So going to a shrink = going to a doctor
Going to an asylum = going to the hospital
I hope the analogy fits ^_^ At least here in Germany being sent to an asylum means the person has SERIOUS problems. What you describe sounds more like some puberty problem. If you don't want to talk about it I can understand that, but that way it's hard to tell if you should get help or not.
So, if you think you are fine, don't worry about it. Still, you parents are your parents. At one point or another, you want to talk to them, trust me. No matter how old you are (I'm 29 btw), if you have problems, you will always be glad that they are there.
But maybe that's just me 
€: uuuuh, I'm no psychotherapist, but what you describe doesn't sound normal. Seriously. If you have this since you are six.. I mean I don't know, maybe you get or are schizophrenic , maybe that should be treated because it can get worse.
If I were you I'd definitely ask a professional about it
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On November 03 2010 09:39 Antiochus wrote:
So have your other sides ever displayed overly violent tendencies towards other people?
Sorta, the animal side is just a bit more instinctual, I have bitten people, and scratched people before, not to mention I tend to threaten a lot of people who walk into my room. Though I don't harm many people anymore unless I get very hyped up by something.
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On November 03 2010 09:42 Slaytesics wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 09:40 Yizuo wrote:On November 03 2010 09:35 Slaytesics wrote:
ugh, really don wanna talk bout it, but I do have internet anonymity, so hell.
I basically have 2.5 people inside of my head
there is me, and then there are my two sides of equal reason, they are personified, and one of them is a bit more animalistic (literally and figuratively). People are concerned that I will just be %100 that side, which has happened before, and think I will go around attacking people and stuff Did you diagnose this yourself? If so, it is very well possible that you are imagining it. If not you should talk tt a therapist. He should decided if you should be admitted to an asylum. I have not imagined this, I have had this problem since I was six, and a few weeks ago I thought telling my close friends was a good idea.
Ok anyway, you should talk to a therapist. I am certainly no expert here, but your psychological situation can probably become harmful for either you or the ones around you.
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If you actually do go around attacking people when you are in your other state and you have no control over it, then it would be correct to put you in an asylum. People are placed in asylums when they are deemed to be a safety hazard to those around them. If this is the case, the best thing you can do is to accept it. Heck it may even be a ticket out of the asylum. If you are logical enough to realize that you are a threat to those around you and you need to be placed in an asylum, it may be a sign that you are not crazy and they won't put you in for very long.
Now if this wasn't the case and you don't go around attacking people, then try to act as a rational and logical person. The people that decide whether you go to an asylum or not are highly intelligent and educated. If you don't appeal to their logic, they won't give a shit where you end up. Try to gain their respect and it will pay off.
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Meh, just do activities/rituals that help you to focus on one facet (Your preferred one). If you can manage to have 2.5 people inside your head but only one is the dominate one you should be fine for the most part.
You also might want to probably work on building your self control so you don't snap, so just start with little things, like kicking all your bad habits and being able to make a chocolate bar last more then a day (I can't even do that last one). Eventually you want to be able to work your way up to the point of being able to positively reinforce one mental state while also being able to positively punish another when it asserts itself.
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Insane people don't know they are insane.
Refer to court hearings.
People who premeditate murder cannot be tried as insane, etc.
Edit: See a shrink?
Too many young teenagers make assumptions that they have "bi-polar" or "schizophrenia" with nothing more than a few symptoms, but no grasp of what the disorder actually entails.
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On November 03 2010 09:56 SCC-Faust wrote:
Insane people don't know they are insane.
Refer to court hearings.
People who premeditate murder cannot be tried as insane, etc.
Medical insanity differs from legal insanity.
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I basically have 2.5 people inside of my head
You might need help. You can't take this issue lightly. One day you'll harm either yourself, either some innocent bystander.
The people you talk about are trying to HELP you, they are not trying to brainwash you or shut you down. They are doing this for your own sake, and the sake of the people who love you.
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Go to a therapist, just to check how much of a problem that is, and to see the path to the solution. He/she'll tell you what's best to do then. Psychotherapists are like any other doctor, but they're focused on the mind.
They usually give you some drugs to take on daily basis and schedule some talks/therapy sessions from time to time. It's like when a normal doctor gives you something for your cold and makes an appointment for later, to check if the drug therapy worked.
Asylum is only if things get out of control a bit, and it's not such a big thing/unusual unless you're seriously ill - people go there for short periods of time all the time.
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It's only a problem if you can't control it. Unless you literally hear multiple people talking to you in your head, I think you have a fairly common problem in young men. I often have incredibly homicidal urges, usually in random spots. I probably spend a good hour a day picturing how to efficiently murder someone. As long as you can keep it in check, I don't think it's too much of a big deal.
Now, if you can't discern those urges from what you really want to do, then you need help. Same goes with multiple voices physically telling you to stab your teacher.
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Hmm I cant tell if im being trolled or if you need to go to a therapist. You obviously should see someone about this and not just go straight to an asylum, but you need to see someone.
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On November 03 2010 09:35 Slaytesics wrote:
ugh, really don wanna talk bout it, but I do have internet anonymity, so hell.
I basically have 2.5 people inside of my head
there is me, and then there are my two sides of equal reason, they are personified, and one of them is a bit more animalistic (literally and figuratively). People are concerned that I will just be %100 that side, which has happened before, and think I will go around attacking people and stuff
I feel very uncomfortable with giving out any sort of advice because this is so far removed from everything I encountered so far in life.
I can base my comments on no experience or expertise beside what just popped into my head spontanously when reading your posts.
If you are 15 years of age, you will be an adult in a few years.
If nothing else, you should be very sure you will not scratch or bite others by then, the law does not allow these things and can punish you quite severely. You might get away easier because of a mental disorder, but telling the jury you had this since you were 6 but never had anyone officially diagnose it might not be very promising I guess.
Also I heard some kinds of psychosis will get continually worse untreated, so you should at the very least talk to a therapist and ask his professional opinion on the matter. If you totally disagree with the therapist, it can be useful to hear a second opinion from another therapist, but do not use this as an excuse for denial.
One of the best strategies to not be thrown into an asylum is probably to admit you need help and get help by seeking it yourself before it gets to the point where your behaviour will give others legal reasons for putting you into an asylum against your will.
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On November 03 2010 10:00 salito wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 09:56 SCC-Faust wrote:
Insane people don't know they are insane.
Refer to court hearings.
People who premeditate murder cannot be tried as insane, etc.
Medical insanity differs from legal insanity.
I like the legal insanity better because according to wikipedia even I'm insane.
That is bullshit.
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The TeamLiquid blogs section isn't nearly qualified enough to give you help for this kind of problem. Talk to your parents, see a Psychiatrist, and follow their professional advice. They will be more mindful of your needs and what is best for you than strangers on an internet forum.
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you're 15, if an adult comes to you with concerns tell them your friend is crazy so as not to exacerbate it. laugh it off. its either that or own up to it and seek counseling/therapy. my school had counselors who would talk with you about anything you wanted, if that's an option it's accessible and free. the last place you'd end up is in an asylum, that would be only if you snapped and did something crazy. personally at your age i had a bit of craziness too, and if i was giving advice to my self from the past i'd tell him to give it a couple years, it gets better. idk if he believe me tho
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really teamliquid, are you this naive.
this is coming from a 15 year old, most likely lonely, who has little to no friends
who's looking for something interesting to do.
as for the kid, if this is actually true, which i highly doubt, why the fuck would you listen to your
friends? and for the record, schizophrenia is really noticable. hell, teachers would prolly send you
to the guidance councelor and cause concern for your parents for a psychologist.
seriously, go find a hobby.
and episodes where you have more than one personality is farfetched.
your parents or some other person would see this.
bullshit blog.
oh, ya, i just read your teamliquid posts.
if youre interested enough in teamliquid to post some bullshit blog about your psychosis,
why not post in any other blogs( which there are a lot of) where people are discussing
their mental problems.
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On November 03 2010 09:38 pullarius1 wrote:
I got thrown into the looney bin against my will a few years ago. It was really a wake-up call to me. I had let a problem get worse and worse, telling myself that I could deal with it and that it wouldn't interfere with my life. It did. And while I was in there, I saw people much, much farther along than me who also hadn't taken steps to deal with it. One guy who I roomed with probably had something fairly similar to you. He thought he could keep it under control, but it got worse and worse until, I think was a junior in college at the time. he completely flipped out in front of all his friends and classmates and started ranted about things that weren't real. He scared a lot people that were close to him, and, worst of all, he doesn't remember any of it, including what brought it on.
At first I resisted all the help they tried to give me, but eventually gave into it, and it actually helped a lot. If you go voluntarily, and accept that these are people that are trying to help you, you might get a lot out of it. I'm not saying that you have to go in there and agree to change, but at least listen to what they have to say, and be 100% honest with them. If you are, chances are they'll let you out in three or four days for out-patient stuff.
Also, I don't know what the laws are in your state, or how old you are, but where it happened to me the rules were like this: if you get committed against your will, they can hold you for up to two weeks, after which you can get a lawyer to get you out, but it's very hard. If you go on your own accord, you can leave whenever you like. Also, the crazy person van is very uncomfortable, and they take away your shoelaces :-p.
Feel free to pm me if you want.
Listen to this man. Even with severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia, one can often live a close to normal life with proper treatment. Untreated however, things can be much worse.
If you honestly weigh the pros and cons of seeking help for this you will realize it is the best thing you can do. You seem to be afraid that if you go to the "loony bin" once you will forever be marked as a crazy person and shut off from the rest of society. I hope more people who have spent time in such institutions can convince you that that is not the case. And also, as other people have said, you should start by seeing some kind of therapist; this will make it far less likely that you ever need to be in an inpatient situation in the first place.
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If you hear voices in your head you pretty much have schizophrenia. Its pretty much impossible you'll be locked up for it though. You'll probably get diagnosed, get meds and have to go to a psychotherapist every so often.
Also whitesheep you are an uninformed idiot. Schizophrenia happens on a continuum, its not you either have it and everyone will notice or you don't have it.
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This is so cool! Do you talk to your alternatives and do other things? Do you have deep philosophical conversations? Do you actually see the people walk around in your vision? And most importantly, did you ever try to make another doppelganger who is a girl and force her to walk around naked all the time?
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On November 03 2010 10:35 HCastorp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 09:38 pullarius1 wrote:
I got thrown into the looney bin against my will a few years ago. It was really a wake-up call to me. I had let a problem get worse and worse, telling myself that I could deal with it and that it wouldn't interfere with my life. It did. And while I was in there, I saw people much, much farther along than me who also hadn't taken steps to deal with it. One guy who I roomed with probably had something fairly similar to you. He thought he could keep it under control, but it got worse and worse until, I think was a junior in college at the time. he completely flipped out in front of all his friends and classmates and started ranted about things that weren't real. He scared a lot people that were close to him, and, worst of all, he doesn't remember any of it, including what brought it on.
At first I resisted all the help they tried to give me, but eventually gave into it, and it actually helped a lot. If you go voluntarily, and accept that these are people that are trying to help you, you might get a lot out of it. I'm not saying that you have to go in there and agree to change, but at least listen to what they have to say, and be 100% honest with them. If you are, chances are they'll let you out in three or four days for out-patient stuff.
Also, I don't know what the laws are in your state, or how old you are, but where it happened to me the rules were like this: if you get committed against your will, they can hold you for up to two weeks, after which you can get a lawyer to get you out, but it's very hard. If you go on your own accord, you can leave whenever you like. Also, the crazy person van is very uncomfortable, and they take away your shoelaces :-p.
Feel free to pm me if you want. Listen to this man. Even with severe mental illnesses like schizophrenia, one can often live a close to normal life with proper treatment. Untreated however, things can be much worse. If you honestly weigh the pros and cons of seeking help for this you will realize it is the best thing you can do. You seem to be afraid that if you go to the "loony bin" once you will forever be marked as a crazy person and shut off from the rest of society. I hope more people who have spent time in such institutions can convince you that that is not the case. And also, as other people have said, you should start by seeing some kind of therapist; this will make it far less likely that you ever need to be in an inpatient situation in the first place.
you're so full of shit, as if you had any examples of this.
people with such ignorance to try and outcast anyone with a mental disorder WOULD become
a pariah.
this blog is giving me a headache, reading all of these stupid fucking posts.
going to 4chan.
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On November 03 2010 10:37 kaisr wrote:
If you hear voices in your head you pretty much have schizophrenia. Its pretty much impossible you'll be locked up for it though. You'll probably get diagnosed, get meds and have to go to a psychotherapist every so often.
Also whitesheep you are an uninformed idiot. Schizophrenia happens on a continuum, its not you either have it and everyone will notice or you don't have it.
actually you're the idiot.
it's enough to effect your daily functions.
and yes it would be noticable.
you have to be legally diagnosed with it, meaning you have to be of age.
which in this case, if it were legit, he wouldnt be able to be diagnosed of it
you're a real fucking moron. ppl like you ruin teamliquid.
Thankfully i have experience, and just skim these posts, but your stupidity
is irritating.
just fyi, you misused continuum, in which case you helped my argument.
User was warned for this post
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+ Show Spoiler +Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:26 Whitesheep wrote:
really teamliquid, are you this naive.
this is coming from a 15 year old, most likely lonely, who has little to no friends
who's looking for something interesting to do.
as for the kid, if this is actually true, which i highly doubt, why the fuck would you listen to your
friends? and for the record, schizophrenia is really noticable. hell, teachers would prolly send you
to the guidance councelor and cause concern for your parents for a psychologist.
seriously, go find a hobby.
and episodes where you have more than one personality is farfetched.
your parents or some other person would see this.
bullshit blog.
oh, ya, i just read your teamliquid posts.
if youre interested enough in teamliquid to post some bullshit blog about your psychosis,
why not post in any other blogs( which there are a lot of) where people are discussing
their mental problems.
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On November 03 2010 10:39 Hyperbola wrote:
This is so cool! Do you talk to your alternatives and do other things? Do you have deep philosophical conversations? Do you actually see the people walk around in your vision? And most importantly, did you ever try to make another doppelganger who is a girl and force her to walk around naked all the time?
Not exactly... They converse in a way with each other, It is hard to explain
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also, to OP, you won't get classified as "insane" you'll just be diagnosed with whatever mental illness you do have (probably schizophrenia). It's nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about. Mental illnesses are as real and as legitimate as physical illnesses and don't indicate any weakness or inadequacies on your part.
My advice, go see a psychologist, get diagnosed, get some meds, get some counselling, get better.
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On November 03 2010 10:45 Slaytesics wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:39 Hyperbola wrote:
This is so cool! Do you talk to your alternatives and do other things? Do you have deep philosophical conversations? Do you actually see the people walk around in your vision? And most importantly, did you ever try to make another doppelganger who is a girl and force her to walk around naked all the time? Not exactly... They converse in a way with each other, It is hard to explain
so, an animalistic communicates with the other personality, how?
really. just stop using the internet, kid.
shit like this is going to make living on earth hell in the next 70 years
with your generations running the world.
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On November 03 2010 10:47 Whitesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:45 Slaytesics wrote:On November 03 2010 10:39 Hyperbola wrote:
This is so cool! Do you talk to your alternatives and do other things? Do you have deep philosophical conversations? Do you actually see the people walk around in your vision? And most importantly, did you ever try to make another doppelganger who is a girl and force her to walk around naked all the time? Not exactly... They converse in a way with each other, It is hard to explain so, an animalistic communicates with the other personality, how? really. just stop using the internet, kid. shit like this is going to make living on earth hell in the next 70 years with your generations running the world.
It is a visual auditorial way of debating who gets more control over my body. Can you also stop trolling, it is not worth anyone's time? Please, just stop trolling this, if you want to give advice, great, stay (HELPFUL advice). If you are just going to say "bullshit" leave please.
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White sheep what exactly are your qualifications? You seem to say a lot of wrong things but think you are right...
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On November 03 2010 10:51 Slaytesics wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:47 Whitesheep wrote:On November 03 2010 10:45 Slaytesics wrote:On November 03 2010 10:39 Hyperbola wrote:
This is so cool! Do you talk to your alternatives and do other things? Do you have deep philosophical conversations? Do you actually see the people walk around in your vision? And most importantly, did you ever try to make another doppelganger who is a girl and force her to walk around naked all the time? Not exactly... They converse in a way with each other, It is hard to explain so, an animalistic communicates with the other personality, how? really. just stop using the internet, kid. shit like this is going to make living on earth hell in the next 70 years with your generations running the world. It is a visual auditorial way of debating who gets more control over my body. Can you also stop trolling, it is not worth anyone's time? Please, just stop trolling this, if you want to give advice, great, stay (HELPFUL advice). If you are just going to say "bullshit" leave please.
really keep telling more. the more you tell me, the less i believe you.
again, such conspicous effects would call attention.
and, really, this is amusing me until a mod closes this.
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laffola, you think they'll send you to an "insane" asylum? This isn't Awakenings or One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
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lol @ all the fish here biting at the trollbait
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On November 03 2010 10:54 Whitesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:51 Slaytesics wrote:On November 03 2010 10:47 Whitesheep wrote:On November 03 2010 10:45 Slaytesics wrote:On November 03 2010 10:39 Hyperbola wrote:
This is so cool! Do you talk to your alternatives and do other things? Do you have deep philosophical conversations? Do you actually see the people walk around in your vision? And most importantly, did you ever try to make another doppelganger who is a girl and force her to walk around naked all the time? Not exactly... They converse in a way with each other, It is hard to explain so, an animalistic communicates with the other personality, how? really. just stop using the internet, kid. shit like this is going to make living on earth hell in the next 70 years with your generations running the world. It is a visual auditorial way of debating who gets more control over my body. Can you also stop trolling, it is not worth anyone's time? Please, just stop trolling this, if you want to give advice, great, stay (HELPFUL advice). If you are just going to say "bullshit" leave please. really keep telling more. the more you tell me, the less i believe you. again, such conspicous effects would call attention. and, really, this is amusing me until a mod closes this.
stop.
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On November 03 2010 10:51 kaisr wrote:
White sheep what exactly are your qualifications? You seem to say a lot of wrong things but think you are right...
wrong things? give examples, really.
are you his e-buddy?
this is the sense im getting from this.
im guessing you're both 15 and decided to post some epic blog on teamliquid.
really amusing.
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everyone has this conflict of shit thing in their heads. espeically starcraft nerds. i dont think itd help to go to an asylum. maybe some antipsychotics and going to 2 different clubs each week, like a dance class and judo class. seriously the number of freaky people aged 13-22 is humungous and just getting them out having some fun is the answer to pretty much all these psychological conflicts / issues.
whatever you do, dont drink alcohol, ever
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On November 03 2010 10:56 Whitesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:51 kaisr wrote:
White sheep what exactly are your qualifications? You seem to say a lot of wrong things but think you are right... wrong things? give examples, really. are you his e-buddy? this is the sense im getting from this.
actually no, he is not my e-buddy, he is just sick of you trolling
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coz alcohol makes this kinda problem, and also any emotional weakness you have, 1000% more potent and excacerbated.
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i hope teamliquid creates an age limit, where the blog section wont be filled
with arbitrary blogs, that creates redundant controversy
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There's nothing wrong with going to an asylum if it's going to help you...if anything not going will just be worse. It's good you confided to your friends. Tell your parents.
Just one question, how do you know you have this if your parents don't know?
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On November 03 2010 10:59 Pandain wrote:
There's nothing wrong with going to an asylum if it's going to help you...if anything not going will just be worse. It's good you confided to your friends. Tell your parents.
Just one question, how do you know you have this if your parents don't know?
finally someone with logic.
was hoping teamliquid's usercout at this time wasnt full of teenagers
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On November 03 2010 10:59 Pandain wrote:
There's nothing wrong with going to an asylum if it's going to help you...if anything not going will just be worse. It's good you confided to your friends. Tell your parents.
Just one question, how do you know you have this if your parents don't know?
I don't know what psychological condition I have, part of me thinks I am an animal, another part doesn't and then there is a part that is just there to do crap. The animal and human parts argue a lot (and when I am referencing myself I am referencing the dominant personality at the moment). Though I do have the confidence to tell my parents now, still a bit nervous, not sure when to tell em' either. I am not certain what will happen, and how my parents will judge me if I tell them, I tend to be a paranoid person, hopefully I get the guts to tell them soon.
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doesn't schizophrenia develop like 99% of the time when you are like 18-20?
i doubt you have schizophrenia. go see a psychiatrist though. if there's anything wrong with you they will give you some medication, i doubt you will end up going to an asylum or something.
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what i dont get, is i got warned from a mod, for posting something
that wasn't too harsh and pretty rational to say, and this thread still isn't closed.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On November 03 2010 11:01 Nitrogen wrote:
doesn't schizophrenia develop like 99% of the time when you are like 18-20?
i doubt you have schizophrenia. go see a psychiatrist though. if there's anything wrong with you they will give you some medication, i doubt you will end up going to an asylum or something.
I am not certain what I have, hopefully I can get medicated (if possible) or some psychotherapy
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On November 03 2010 11:04 Whitesheep wrote:
what i dont get, is i got warned from a mod, for posting something
that wasn't too harsh and pretty rational to say, and this thread still isn't closed.
if you're pissed about this blog post and you think the poster isn't legit then don't post here.Teamliquid users are the most helpful people I have ever met and usually don't give up on someone if they have problems.
<3 heyoka.
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On November 03 2010 11:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 11:04 Whitesheep wrote:
what i dont get, is i got warned from a mod, for posting something
that wasn't too harsh and pretty rational to say, and this thread still isn't closed.
if you're pissed about this blog post and you think the poster isn't legit then don't post here.Teamliquid users are the most helpful people I have ever met and usually don't give up on someone if they have problems.
thank you BLinD-RawR
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On November 03 2010 11:09 Slaytesics wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 11:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On November 03 2010 11:04 Whitesheep wrote:
what i dont get, is i got warned from a mod, for posting something
that wasn't too harsh and pretty rational to say, and this thread still isn't closed.
if you're pissed about this blog post and you think the poster isn't legit then don't post here.Teamliquid users are the most helpful people I have ever met and usually don't give up on someone if they have problems. thank you BLinD-RawR
YOU,it seems obvious that you need to see a shrink.
Talk to your parents while you're at it.
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On November 03 2010 11:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 11:09 Slaytesics wrote:On November 03 2010 11:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:On November 03 2010 11:04 Whitesheep wrote:
what i dont get, is i got warned from a mod, for posting something
that wasn't too harsh and pretty rational to say, and this thread still isn't closed.
if you're pissed about this blog post and you think the poster isn't legit then don't post here.Teamliquid users are the most helpful people I have ever met and usually don't give up on someone if they have problems. thank you BLinD-RawR YOU,it seems obvious that you need to see a shrink. Talk to your parents while you're at it.
I will.
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Slaytesics is not trolling you
Simply put, there are much better things to troll people with. Glares at Pandain
EDIT:Okay, I don't know much, but just a few things.
Make sure the asylum isn't violating any safety standards. It shouldn't be an issue, but abuse in mental hospitals is always a big problem. Having Parents being able to visit you and make sure that their idea of treatment isn't to simply lock you in a dark room is always a good thing
Secondly, evaluate your financial situation. Will getting medical help strain your family's budget? Although its best to get help early, I understand it is a recession.
EDIT: I like other people's advice better. Don't listen to this crazy dude named LSB
On November 03 2010 10:59 Whitesheep wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2010 10:59 Pandain wrote:
There's nothing wrong with going to an asylum if it's going to help you...if anything not going will just be worse. It's good you confided to your friends. Tell your parents.
Just one question, how do you know you have this if your parents don't know? finally someone with logic. was hoping teamliquid's usercout at this time wasnt full of teenagers
Hahahaha
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it's not as easy as you think it is to get thrown into an asylum. For teenagers, they are mostly used for people who are close to killing themselves and/or other people. Schizophrenia and DID (I don't think that's a valid disorder) are in most cases not that dangerous, but I don't think you have either.
Anyway, the process is to go to a psychologist first, you can do it with or without your parents help, but I suggest this course so you two can work out a more permanent solution. And again, you won't be thrown in against your will while you are having a mutual and conscious dialogue with your therapist.
Also, you know about the id, ego and superego freud theory? It sounds very reminiscent
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i've been diagnosed with schizophrenia a long time ago and in order for you to go to a mental institution is if you threaten or actually cause harm to someone. other than that it takes a long time for them to prove you are unsafe for society.
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I'm told I'm insane all the time, and you know what? They're right. I'm balls to the wall crazy.
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animal personalities are not normal. i strongly suggest getting help.
on the bright side, you will be OK. your problem is actually pretty common.
psychiatric problems can be made worse by having a bad diet and consuming drugs or alcohol, so try hard in this area and do not give up even if you fail .
can you tell us your diet and drug habits?
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On November 03 2010 11:31 guN-viCe wrote:
animal personalities are not normal. i strongly suggest getting help.
on the bright side, you will be OK. your problem is actually pretty common.
psychiatric problems can be made worse by having a bad diet and consuming drugs or alcohol, so try hard in this area and do not give up even if you fail .
can you tell us your diet and drug habits?
I do not do drugs, drink alcohol, or diet.
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Seriously man your not going to get anywhere coming on tl and asking people for excuses on how to get people to believe that you are not insane. What will get you somewhere is talking with a professional in real life to determine if you have a problem.
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Maybe some people need 'help', maybe I'm one of them, maybe you are, maybe I am 'insane', maybe my life would be better if I got help, maybe yours would be
The point is that psychiatry cannot offer that, if something exists that can offer you that is a question that I honestly find hard to answer.
Psychiatry is currently in its infancy, the practice is 80 years old at best. It's at the level of using leeches. Psychiatry simply cannot help people who need help, and help might not even exist.
The research towards the effacy of psychiatric care is 'inconclusive' at best, with a lot of researches indicating that it does more harm than good.
I've been going to psychiatrist from psychiatrist to psychiatrist, each had a different opinion about what diagnosis was appropriate and what treatment was. Often one would recommend what another would advice against.
Again, I'm not saying that some people don't need help, I'm saying that pychiatry in its current form is not able to provide that help, or if help an even be provided at all. Psychiatric ideas of as little as 30 years back are now already seen as outdated and dangerous, and in 30 years what they do today will be viewed similarly possible.
If 'insane' is even a useful label, who knows? DSM-IV is growing vast and a lot of things entered it which 30 years back would just be called 'hippy'.Basically living a slightly bohemian life already qualifies you for some disorders.
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sounds like you need to see a psychiatrist, or at least talk about this stuff with someone
it doesn't sound like you're a danger to yourself or anyone else so i don't think you should go to an asylum
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You have two options to choose from:
1. Control yourself so that you do not hurt others
2. Live in a controlled environment such as an asylum
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Only go to a psychiatrist if you know for a fact they produce results. I would recommend studying Dr Therman Fleet's stick figure image of the mind, so you can have a picture of the mind. You can use that picture to change what is programmed into your subconscious mind, thereby changing your habits. Then all you have to do is change your associations, which takes simple NLP (In the form of playing with mental pictures of various experiences to change their meanings).
I don't know much about your specific situation. But perhaps that will give you something to start with.
Also, remember psychiatrists now consider it to be a name for people who prefer healthy foods over nonhealthy foods. If you go to a random psychiatrist without doing research first, you may end up going to a 'scammer' who will call you something and it can really effect your personal life in ways I don't even want to discuss.
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Nah you don't have to tell your parents if they are anything like mine I know why you haven't told them.
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dude go to a doctor tl.net is hardly qualified to give advice of this nature.
and good luck.
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Mental illness is no different than any type of physical illness. If you truly are worried about yourself/feel this way, see a psychologist or psychiatrist. Forget the pointless stigma and look after yourself.
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You've seen too many movies..
You'll likely be just put on medication, unless you are truly a risk... I highly doubt that though.
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On November 03 2010 13:08 Coagulation wrote:
dude go to a doctor tl.net is hardly qualified to give advice of this nature.
and good luck.
I agree 100%. If you care enough, you should really talk to your parents/close friends, or even better yet a doctor. There is no one here that can give you qualified advice. If you are in the puberty age range, it could just be hormones. My advice, is don't jump to any conclusions and keep optimistic.
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My mom was diagnosed with schizophrenia around 1999-2000. At first it was really hard on my father and I because we weren't sure why she was acting the way she was until we took her to see a therapist one day. They put her on Clonazepam and she has been fine ever sense although the medicine can make her a bit air-headed at times. A lot of people don't know what it's like to have a mental illness or be around someone with one so it's hard for them to put themselves in our shoes.
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If you are having problems reconciling your personality traits into one coherent whole, that in and of itself is a significant indicator of mental instability. For all you know, your problems could be caused by a simple neurotransmitter malfunction, easily treatable via drug therapy to replace/simulate the problematic chemical.
Put it like this, you might still win games by going 20 hatch 25 pool, but it's hardly optimal, is it? Also, if you're under pressure to be institutionalised and refuse, then finally are made to, it's a METRIC FUCKTON harder to get back out again, as opposed to doing it voluntarily.
My parents essentially left me to bring myself up until I was old enough for full time school (about 4 years old) so I have a lot of traits that most socialised humans find creepy or aggressive (to make a comparison to your remark about displaying "animalistic" tendencies. I have a constant battle to unlearn these habits and I don't have any major chemical imbalances. If you are rationalising your incoherent mental processes, than this is of itself, a worrying thing.
If you're still reading this, please, seek help. Not for your friends, not for your family, but for yourself.
Hope it works out.
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