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Blizzard, a bunch of liars.

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yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
October 27 2010 15:26 GMT
#1
From Eurogamer:

Blizzard Entertainment EVP of game design Rob Pardo has expressed his disappointment at Valve’s decision to trademark and develop a Defense Of The Ancients clone called DOTA.

“To us, that means that you're really taking it away from the Blizzard and Warcraft III community and that just doesn't seem the right thing to do,” he told Eurogamer.

Defense of the Ancients is a widely popular mod for WarCraft III and it is usually short named as “DOTA” by its fans. In Defense of the Ancients, two teams of up to 6 players each try to use the heroes’ abilities, upgrades and enchantments tactically in order to defeat the other team’s heroes and help their army win.

During the recent Blizzcon fan convention in Anaheim, CA, Blizzard unveiled “Blizzard DOTA”, a new StarCraft II map inspired by the original WarCraft III DOTA.

Pardo noted that Valve is well known for supporting the mod community, and that’s why “It just seems a really strange move to us that Valve would go off and try to exclusively trademark the term considering it's something that's been freely available to us and everyone in the Warcraft III community up to this point. “

Valve’s DOTA’s development is being led by IceFrog, the custodian for the DotA Allstars variation of the WarCraft III mod. According to Valve, the only major difference between the new DOTA and the original one is in the graphics and the integration with Steam.


FACTS: 2 years ago, Blizzard offered Icefrog to join in and rework Dota inside Blizzard. The goal was to make a quick game with basically no additionnal development needed, and sell it: a cash machine.

IceFrog said no, because he wanted a team, he wanted to be in control of everything and he disliked the idea of building a quick product with few evolutions and give it all to Blizzard. (I can understand, they would probably have made WOW-style offers like "new items for 15$")

And now Blizzard is trying to be all about community and freedom of mods and going "bouhou Valve is a bad company".

ye, right.

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zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
October 27 2010 15:27 GMT
#2
I thought Public Relations was all about lying well?
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 27 2010 15:29 GMT
#3
Yeah man, we're getting all of these DOTA games for free and shit! Fuck the man i want to pay for things!

+ Show Spoiler +
Though i can see what you mean - kind of funny / hypocritical of them.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 27 2010 15:30 GMT
#4
Oh i thought it was another bw vs Sc2 thread again :<
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Respectfulwon
Profile Joined October 2010
48 Posts
October 27 2010 15:40 GMT
#5
It seems that anybody who helps blizzards games eventually end up getting bit in the butt. Point in case, this scenario and the whole Pro League issue. Without Pro League Starcraft wouldn't be nearly what it is today. Probably just another forgotten game. And how does Blizzard repay the Korean E-Sport community? By suing them. Because they want everybody to convert to SC2. Blizzards really been shitty lately and money hungry. They really need to chill out and realize that their products wouldn't have been anything without these people.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 27 2010 15:43 GMT
#6
Why am I not surprised.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
October 27 2010 15:47 GMT
#7
Oh wait so they shouldnt be paid for the work they did while you are raging a politcal and PR war on the other side of the planet arguing that you should be payed for the same reasons?

Its mind boggling.
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Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
October 27 2010 15:57 GMT
#8
Both sides are bad. Riot Games is the only good guy in this whole fight.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
October 27 2010 16:06 GMT
#9
Blizzard sending out feeler soundbites to gauge the popular sentiment, then BAM: lawsuit.
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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
October 27 2010 16:15 GMT
#10
They're just pissed because Steam is ten times better then bnet will ever be.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 27 2010 16:15 GMT
#11
Could you link to some documentation of fact two? Especially the whether they were intending to sell it part.
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Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
October 27 2010 16:15 GMT
#12
On October 28 2010 00:26 yejin wrote:
(I can understand, they would probably have made WOW-style offers like "new items for 15$")


http://www.teamfortress.com/mannconomy/
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
October 27 2010 16:16 GMT
#13
Icefrog is not the saint you think he is.
Bac
Profile Joined January 2009
United States53 Posts
October 27 2010 16:25 GMT
#14
On October 28 2010 01:15 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 00:26 yejin wrote:
(I can understand, they would probably have made WOW-style offers like "new items for 15$")


http://www.teamfortress.com/mannconomy/


Have you read the part where the community creators of those items are getting paid for everything they sell? Some have made over 10k at this point for creating 3 items for a game.

Show me something from WOW that expands and helps the community flourish like that.
_ContempT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
October 27 2010 16:27 GMT
#15
Blizzard has been on a down hill slope for awhile now, the fact that they are so butt hurt about Valve -taking- DOTA just makes me want to buy Valve's version more.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
October 27 2010 16:32 GMT
#16
Blizzard sure supported the War3 community, yeah totally, they didn't let it go to shit after WoW came out, no they would've never done that.

Blizzard totally supported the DotA community too...
Get it by your hands...
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 16:34:00
October 27 2010 16:33 GMT
#17
Source for your fact?
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
October 27 2010 16:37 GMT
#18
On October 28 2010 01:25 Bac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2010 01:15 Archerofaiur wrote:
On October 28 2010 00:26 yejin wrote:
(I can understand, they would probably have made WOW-style offers like "new items for 15$")


http://www.teamfortress.com/mannconomy/


Have you read the part where the community creators of those items are getting paid for everything they sell? Some have made over 10k at this point for creating 3 items for a game.

Show me something from WOW that expands and helps the community flourish like that.



http://kotaku.com/5670971/moonkin-hatchling-is-the-next-world-of-warcraft-charity-pet?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: kotaku/full (Kotaku)
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50643 Posts
October 27 2010 16:41 GMT
#19
Coming from tf2maps.net myself I would say that the mannconomy update is a bad example to support the argument.the item creators also make money.

lol Blizzard and Valve are lovers in the night,don't take this seriously just because of one comment made by Pardo.
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Flaunt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
New Zealand784 Posts
October 27 2010 16:43 GMT
#20
Source for the Blizzard trying to recruit icefrog please.
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