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Deluge-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States117 Posts
October 22 2010 21:48 GMT
#21
You don't need to just run. You can go out and play sports, run around with friends, etc. Just be active ^^

Anyways stay focused in school. Every young person who is involved with games dreams to be those top programmers but only a few make it that far. And by a few I mean not even 1% of the people make it that far (probably a wrong estimate ) School is by far a better way to make your life better than it is right now. Just find something you like other than ... games. But if you really want that programmer life then by all means go for it. But just don't give up on all other aspects of your life, i.e. school, health, etc.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
October 22 2010 21:53 GMT
#22
How many of these kids have said they have the "drive and discipline to be a progamer" ?? IF you cant even concentrate in school there is no chance in hell you can have the "discipline" to be a progamer. Not to mention that should not be a goal unless you are already REALLY good at the game.

Someone asked this before, what was your BW rank? If you werent even B or B+ Its gonna be pretty fucking hard to suddenly "rise above" all the other nerds that spend too much time on a video game.

On the other hand you have time and young age on your time. Being 15 will make you able to catch on to things quickly, especially games, but you may not have the maturity or mind to be the best.

Im only 19 but im a junior in college pursuing engineering because I have the mind for it and the drive as well. When i was 15 there were so many things I wanted to be, mainly a touring musician and and professional basketball player but i dont have the virtuoso skills or height/skill for those things so i did what Im good at, solving problems with math and observation...

Just because you "set your mind to something" doesn't mean you can do it because you need to be naturally good at the things you capitalize on..

Do games come naturally to you or are you just a bored kid with SC as your only form of entertainment?

on a side note: You dont know shit about life so think twice before you disregard school because its "lame" or "boring".. Life is full of shit you dont want to do but have to.
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 22 2010 21:54 GMT
#23
Unless you find yourself subconciously trying to kill yourself every other day you are still doing fine. Just keep smiling man, it ain´t getting any better, it´s just bullshit.
World is full of unhappy people, being yourself and smiling like a troll is the way to go.
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
October 22 2010 21:57 GMT
#24
Work hard at school.
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 22 2010 21:59 GMT
#25
On October 23 2010 06:47 DwmC_Foefen wrote:
The older you get (as a guy, it's different with ladies ^^), the better everything else gets.

Don't worry, you'll know what I mean when you are 20 yo and in college.



hahahaha the older you get... Happy Birthday DwmC!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 22:30:20
October 22 2010 22:21 GMT
#26
I don't know if you are just having a hard time expressing yourself because of your English, or if you are having a nervous breakdown.
On October 23 2010 06:17 rushz0rz wrote:
Stay in school. Get good grades.

This is the only advice I will give you and I know you will not follow it.

This is what I wanted to say to you.


Do you honestly not have fun with your girl friends? You say that only Broodwar is fun. Broodwar is fun, but while you may like the game, the game does not like you back. You should realize this if you're spending a lot of time thinking about and playing the game (seems like you are since you want to become a pro-gamer).

Becoming a pro-gamer isn't easy. Not everyone can do it. Lots of people want to, but most don't have the skill or time devotion. Then you're big for a few years, making an average salary (if you're lucky enough to get the job in Korea) and then you're fired. You have no useful talents because you dropped out of school and you have to work at a grocery store again.

Go to college, get a degree at a local comm college, get a good job.


I'm sorry for your childhood. I can't change how you've grown up. I know that If I give you the advice to stay in school and do well, you won't blindly listen. But I truly believe this is the best thing you can do.


Talk to your girl friends.
Talk to some of the foreigner pros on here.
Please. It's the least you can do.





edit:
can you get endorphines from riding a bike too?

Yes, the other poster said that endorphines come from exercise. I ride my bike in a figure 8 next to my school's buildings when I get depressed.

If you are serious about SC2, I wish you the best of luck. You will need it. In college, some majors and colleges are really easy. You can get by with a day of work every week, leaving you 5 days to practice, 1 day to hang out with friends.
CosmicAC
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States238 Posts
October 22 2010 22:35 GMT
#27
You only think that people at school are boring because you haven't had a chance to get to know them yet...trust me on this. Give school a chance. At least everybody is human and at least the majority of humans are complex and not two dimensional.
To follow the path: look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master.
Wyred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States52 Posts
October 22 2010 22:55 GMT
#28
It's interesting juxtaposing this thread to another one on TL about the two Chinese girls studying under the street lamp. Same advice my theater teacher gave me: "Don't be a victim of your circumstances." Be who you want to be, don't let your situation deny that. However, if you want to become a pro gamer, you must have a backup plan and not go into that business with blind faith in your skills. School is boring to everyone else too ,but try to find something interesting at least. I was bored all through my educational career until biology seemed a bit fun.
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
October 22 2010 23:14 GMT
#29
On October 23 2010 06:48 Deluge- wrote:
You don't need to just run. You can go out and play sports, run around with friends, etc. Just be active ^^


do martial arts
and/or weight lifting
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 22 2010 23:18 GMT
#30
My one piece of advice, is to listen to the advice that older people give you- especially your parents. It took me waay waay to long to figure that out.
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 22 2010 23:26 GMT
#31
Just get good grades, be cool with people and enjoy high school. I don't see much merit in trying to reinforce your position as an outcast by being crazy about a pro-gaming career. Are you currently like top 5 in iccup or are you almost as good as the people you see on VODs? If yes, then perhaps, a big maybe, you should try to participate in one of those international contests to get your name known. If not, just know there are thousands more of people just like you...
[TLMS] REBOOT
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
October 22 2010 23:33 GMT
#32
Drop out of school. No progamers are taking school while playing. Even Jaedong only attends some bogus online school.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 23:35:45
October 22 2010 23:34 GMT
#33
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
October 22 2010 23:36 GMT
#34
On October 23 2010 08:34 travis wrote:
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.



Telling a 15 year old to be "true to himself" is like handing a baby a paintball gun, it may not kill it but he could shoot his balls off or something..
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-22 23:56:36
October 22 2010 23:38 GMT
#35
On October 23 2010 08:36 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 08:34 travis wrote:
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.



Telling a 15 year old to be "true to himself" is like handing a baby a paintball gun, it may not kill it but he could shoot his balls off or something..


riiiiiight

anyways i think it's our own job to find out how inexperienced and unwise we are

we shouldn't be told that's the case and then to just do what the other person tells us

if you want to take advice from your elders that's fine(they do know a lot more than you!)
if you want to ignore them and do what you want that's fine to

just be good. mistakes are yours to be made

some of the most successful people ever completely ignored advice from their elders
pookychoo
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand96 Posts
October 22 2010 23:45 GMT
#36
the best advice i can give is not to worry, when u look back in 5 or 10yrs you will be like "lol, none of these things were worth any worry"

and get a good nights sleep! its hard to do, but its so worth it, i wish i didnt stay up so late all the time... you end up being drained and not having your full potential.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 23 2010 00:09 GMT
#37
On October 23 2010 06:28 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Lol, maybe you are right but sc2 is more casual I feel and I really want to give it a shot and be a progamer I definitely think I have the willpower and discipline (disregarding the concentration problems at school) and im really really determined I like soith korea more than my own country lol (turkey) and the culture is so bad-ass and ofcourse starcraft :D


Will you practice 14 hours a day, no, more than that, thinking of no other thing? Can you set aside everything else, and practice even when you don't want to, hell, even when your wrists don't want to because they are dead as shit from playing way too much? SC2 isn't casual. Nothing is casual when it is competitive. Doesn't matter if it is inherently easier than BW or not - these comparisons don't matter. What matters if you will put in more effort than you think you can. If you're going to play SC2 because it is fun and you like how it looks, and that's why, then just stop. Play it for fun - but don't dream of moving to korea and becoming a programer, because that's a huge step, a huge commitment. "Giving it a shot" is not how you would have to think of this. You'd have make it THE shot you give.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
October 23 2010 00:12 GMT
#38
On October 23 2010 06:41 KTF_CloaK wrote:
thats why i am saving up :D and i can run but i am kinda chubby and do not have such a great condition, can you get endorphines from riding a bike too?

Yep, just ride hard & long enough
If you have to ask, you don't know.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 00:25:49
October 23 2010 00:20 GMT
#39
i can regularly play games 14 hours a day (high school, even uni at times, and summer) without fatigue.
Doesn't mean jack shit unless you have nothing in life preventing you from playing, because once u stop for a bit, you fall behind everyone else( which is impossible without dropping out of school),

progamer= high risk , low reward, possibly 0 reward

- Are your parents rich? if not,

- If you played BW for 2 years and you're not at least B-

- Would you mind working at a fast food restaurant? if not,


... Go study. you have absolutely 0 chance of becoming a progamer with no backup plan because your studies suck. (high school isn't hard)
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 00:43:44
October 23 2010 00:41 GMT
#40
I was disinterested in school at your age.

Now I'm sitting around waiting to ship out to basic training for the U.S. military while my friends are having fun in college, partying it up and worrying about their grades while I'm sitting here with the possibility of a tour in Afghanistan and the responsibility of an adult in the "real world."

Work hard. Or you'll regret it.


On October 23 2010 08:36 Hypnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 08:34 travis wrote:
do whatever you want with your life
older people will tell you how to be like them, or how they want to be
(sure they are probably telling you what they think is best but they are not all knowing and most people have lost sight of what life is actually about)

just be true to yourself and try to be good and try to improve yourself. things will work out


but, u may be posed with challenges later on in life if u try to do something like become a pro gamer.



Telling a 15 year old to be "true to himself" is like handing a baby a paintball gun, it may not kill it but he could shoot his balls off or something..


HEY MAN SHOOTING YOUR BALLS OFF IS WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
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