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RobJ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Belgium38 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 16:55:54
October 19 2010 16:53 GMT
#1
Hi all,

I found today a strange thing about myself, which I think it quite enough, and it applies on a lot of games tbh!

When I practise in a team at solo games (SC2, Quake or TM) I play a lot worse than when I practise on my own (a schedule/planning, learning on your own). In SC2 it's just playing, same for Quake, in TM it's just training the tracks without somebody else.

Is it really possible that they are people who just can't play in a team? That like playing solo and learn everything on their own without the stress of other people watching them/testing them.

Side note: Is it a nice ability to learn fast? When I practise 1 hour full focussed i'm much better than when I play 3 hours in a row , when I start to fail focus after 1.30 hours
Greets,
Rob

HI
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
October 19 2010 17:03 GMT
#2
On October 20 2010 01:53 RobJ wrote:
Hi all,

I found today a strange thing about myself, which I think it quite enough, and it applies on a lot of games tbh!

When I practise in a team at solo games (SC2, Quake or TM) I play a lot worse than when I practise on my own (a schedule/planning, learning on your own). In SC2 it's just playing, same for Quake, in TM it's just training the tracks without somebody else.

Is it really possible that they are people who just can't play in a team? That like playing solo and learn everything on their own without the stress of other people watching them/testing them.

Side note: Is it a nice ability to learn fast? When I practise 1 hour full focussed i'm much better than when I play 3 hours in a row , when I start to fail focus after 1.30 hours
Greets,
Rob


For your side note; Well 3 hours of playing/learning/training or whatever is a bit much for anything.

For university, 3 hours lectures are given breaks. Because obviously they know you'll lose focus. It's mentally tiring.

Just play comfortably . If not, I'm sure you'll recognize when you've hit a wall anyway.

As for the whole team thing.

Some people like fencing over soccer. The reason is because they only want to rely on themselves. That's one of the reasons anyway. Who knows what else there is. Personal glory, w/e.

It's entirely possible
metaphoR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States199 Posts
October 19 2010 17:06 GMT
#3
It can be very frustrating finding the people necessary to compete in many team games. It is often hard to find dedicated people that are as good as you, especially if you are just starting out yourself.

The hardest part about competitive counter-strike 1.6 is fielding 5 that are dedicated and the same skill level / mind set. Work schedules, school, and time not spent on the computer is the main reason why its hard to maintain a stable roster. With solo games, you are on your own schedule, you can practice any time and don't have to rely on teammates to become successful. While there are both pros and cons to each style of competitive gaming, it depends on the individual to choose which style to pursue.

Also during team games, its hard to get that team chemistry. Everyone has to be on the same page and somewhat friendly / have similar interests when you are not playing. When things go wrong, you have to be able to communicate and not let ego's get in the way of becoming better as a team. The sum of the parts are not greater than the whole mentality comes into play.

Learning fast is good, but most people do not learn at the same rate or at the same method. So again some people might not have the patience to want to play with team mates.

TLDR: People are different, Pursue which style that fits you the best, either solo or teamplay.
RobJ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Belgium38 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 17:17:49
October 19 2010 17:13 GMT
#4
The sucky part is that people always tell me : You should play more online. (Trackmania) while I don't feel good playing online on a pub server, because I don't know the tracks that well to compete with others! (that's why I train a lot offline, and when it's match I just go!)


But for example, I practiced for a lan 2 weeks on my own, (solo, no cars), but when I went to lan I just did cars on and I even won that big lan! (with cars on, which is not solo, but I just did it)
HI
NIIINO
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Slovakia1320 Posts
October 19 2010 17:21 GMT
#5
In school they teach us how to learn more and faster i will write some basics, really basics which can help you in gaming life or AFK life ^^

- Play in specific hours, every day at the same time.I can tell You learn fastest before you are going to sleep (you will kind of memorize it)
- Try to Play in 20°C-25°C room
- Think positive !
- and im going to diner and out so sorry maybe later xD
metaphoR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States199 Posts
October 19 2010 17:22 GMT
#6
i think if you are competitive, its best to train in a way that emulates the exact situation you will be competing in. so if at the lan and cars are on, its best to train with cars on as well. this might not be the most effective way, but it certainly makes sense, no?
RobJ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Belgium38 Posts
October 19 2010 17:30 GMT
#7
On October 20 2010 02:22 metaphoR wrote:
i think if you are competitive, its best to train in a way that emulates the exact situation you will be competing in. so if at the lan and cars are on, its best to train with cars on as well. this might not be the most effective way, but it certainly makes sense, no?

Not all lans are like that!, but on big lans, ofcourse.

Well most of the time that's true, I also thought that when I first started cars on at a lan, but actually I adapted really fast to it.
HI
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 19 2010 18:44 GMT
#8
Yes, it is possible.
Brees on in
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