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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
evade, retreat and withdraw. Background of those: These words are part of an exercise that is supposed to show, how a person acts inside a group of people. You have to tick a certain amount of verbs you think that fit best on how you behave. And since these verbs all appear in the list, there should be some major differences i don't see at the moment  *edit: Especially the difference between retreat and withdraw isn't clear to me. Thanks in advance guys  | ||
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Chriamon
United States886 Posts
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Bright]
United States118 Posts
Something along those lines. Withdraw is a tad harder to explain.. it could mean "pulling something back" for example: "the commander withdrew his forces". Which means the commander of an army ordered his forces to regroup. Hope that helps a bit? | ||
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Random()
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
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NukeTheBunnys
United States1004 Posts
withdraw can be to move back You can withdraw troops before a battle begins, but ones the battle starts to move back is more specifically retreating, or to take back(i withdraw my complaint) evade is to avoid getting engaged in the first place | ||
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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
Imagine you're holding the middle of Lost Temple with a big mech army. If you decide to pull your army out of the middle of the map to regroup at your main base, you would be withdrawing your army from the middle of the map. If your opponent was pushing into your army and forcing you to pull back to your main, you would be retreating from the middle of the map. | ||
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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
On October 05 2010 23:40 BroOd wrote: In English, words often have connotations, or an associated other meaning that are not necessarily part of the main definition. Words like retreat and withdraw, while having similar meanings, carry different connotations that help dictate the appropriateness of their use. Withdraw carries something of a neutral connotation in that there's no direct association to a positive or negative. Retreat, on the other hand, carries a negative connotation. Imagine you're holding the middle of Lost Temple with a big mech army. If you decide to pull your army out of the middle of the map to regroup at your main base, you would be withdrawing your army from the middle of the map. If your opponent was pushing into your army and forcing you to pull back to your main, you would be retreating from the middle of the map. wow that was an amazing post and awesome analogy. thank you so much! | ||
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theSAiNT
United States726 Posts
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
Dodging incoming aggression without leaving the conflict. Retreat: Leaving the conflict after it has begun or while it is at a disadvantaged state. Withdraw: Leaving the conflict before it has begun or while it is at a neutral state. | ||
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Demand2k
Norway875 Posts
On October 05 2010 23:40 BroOd wrote: In English, words often have connotations, or an associated other meaning that are not necessarily part of the main definition. Words like retreat and withdraw, while having similar meanings, carry different connotations that help dictate the appropriateness of their use. Withdraw carries something of a neutral connotation in that there's no direct association to a positive or negative. Retreat, on the other hand, carries a negative connotation. Imagine you're holding the middle of Lost Temple with a big mech army. If you decide to pull your army out of the middle of the map to regroup at your main base, you would be withdrawing your army from the middle of the map. If your opponent was pushing into your army and forcing you to pull back to your main, you would be retreating from the middle of the map. You, sir, are a master of analogy. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
1. Evade: avoids the social setting altogether. 2. Withdraw: attends the social setting but doesn't engage with others. 3. Retreat: attends the social setting and flees. Another connotation suggested to me by retreat vs. withdraw is force. It seems to me that if you retreat you are more forced in the situation, and if you withdraw that is more voluntary. If you retreat from a political proposal it is because it is very unpopular and your choice is made for you, if you withdraw it it may be from lack of interest rather than being pressured. Retreat also connotes more movement for me, almost a 180 degree. If someone attempts to give you a hug and you pull back, you've withdrawn. If you turn around and leave, you retreated. I hope that's helpful, I think it's fun to try to dig that deep into language where you're really talking about shades of meaning rather than definitions. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32051 Posts
On October 05 2010 23:40 BroOd wrote: In English, words often have connotations, or an associated other meaning that are not necessarily part of the main definition. Words like retreat and withdraw, while having similar meanings, carry different connotations that help dictate the appropriateness of their use. Withdraw carries something of a neutral connotation in that there's no direct association to a positive or negative. Retreat, on the other hand, carries a negative connotation. Imagine you're holding the middle of Lost Temple with a big mech army. If you decide to pull your army out of the middle of the map to regroup at your main base, you would be withdrawing your army from the middle of the map. If your opponent was pushing into your army and forcing you to pull back to your main, you would be retreating from the middle of the map. continuing with this, you would want to evade detection if you have DTs that you're trying to sneak in your opponents base. but yeah, broods basically makes it real simple | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On October 05 2010 23:53 sk` wrote: Evade: Dodging incoming aggression without leaving the conflict. Retreat: Leaving the conflict after it has begun or while it is at a disadvantaged state. Withdraw: Leaving the conflict before it has begun or while it is at a neutral state. perfect | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
evade from prison, from a sitation, (not determined where, more vague) retreat from a battle, a fight, into a corner (more accurate, could spesify place) withdraw troops, a proposal, an offer (more formal, thus can be used in documents etc...) at least i feel it that way | ||
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mangina
United States230 Posts
Evade - I feel its more situational. Based on a situation, circumstance, or condition. So, relative to a certain situation... that situation is evaded. for example: You evade an upcoming battle. Retreat - You are the subject. You retreat. You take yourself and fall back. for example: You retreat from the battlefield with your remaining soldiers. Withdraw - More of a direct action. You withdraw something. You withdraw an object. You place a direct action on something. for example: You(commander) decided to withdraw your remaining fleet from enemy territory. | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
NovaTheFeared's post is the most helpful and accurate one to me. Notice by his descriptions the words' social applications fit with their military applications. A party is a position where you may or may not be engaged. To leave the place is to retreat. To cease engagement is to withdraw. | ||
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jhNz
Germany2762 Posts
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