EPTYes, I want to set up a PC bang in Paris >.< I don't know how PC bangs in KR are but I want mine to also be a competitive platform for tourneys and not just a place to come and play
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
Yes, I want to set up a PC bang in Paris >.< I don't know how PC bangs in KR are but I want mine to also be a competitive platform for tourneys and not just a place to come and play | ||
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Redunzl
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On September 28 2010 17:23 PlaGuE_R wrote: Imagine a big cafe with free Wi-Fi, a nice big screen TV put agaisnt the wall, on the TV people are watching Football on match day, or CS, SCBW, SC2, and any other competitive games. Where does all the footage come from? The next room is a massive room filled with computers all connected to the net and each other in LAN. This is where people compete in games with tournaments each weekend with prizes for the winner. Yes, I want to set up a PC bang in Paris >.< I don't know how PC bangs in KR are but I want mine to also be a competitive platform for tourneys and not just a place to come and play Every single decent sized pc room that has opened in paris never ever lasted more than a couple of years. Or you're just laundrying dirty french mafia money through your business. Forget about it. Rather buy a couple bakeries and be rich :! | ||
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PlaGuE_R
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
 And French authorities will not let you organize tournaments with a structure simlar to poker tournaments, they would consider it as a form of gambling. See what they did to online poker :'( Your chance is to contact the "Aviation Club de France" on the Champs Elysees and ask them to open an SC2 section and appoint you as the manager of this section ^_^ | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On September 28 2010 17:52 PlaGuE_R wrote: how is it gambling? there's no betting going on, its just the winner that gets a prize Well, when you play poker tournaments (not cash game), the structure is exactly the same as a SC tournament : Pay a buy-in. A part of the buy-in goes to the organizers. The rest goes to the prize pool. The top x players get a share of the prize pool. I agree this is not gambling, but I can already imagine the goverment arguing that : - there is money at stake - risk of addiction - lure of profit => same issues as gambling, but it's even worse because it will appeal underage people a lot more than casinos. Sad, but I know how french government works edit : typo | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/13/dossiers/jeux_argent.asp But the first question you should ask yourself is : Will I get any customer ? Why would people come to may cyber café and pay to play/watch games? Would any firm want to sponsor this ? I am living in paris, and i am not really interested in just a gaming cybercafé, but if there are regular prize tournaments ( non cash prize are good ) it would be more interesting. Of course, the entry fee of the tournament is quite a big factor too  | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On September 28 2010 18:16 PlaGuE_R wrote: how bout working around that by offering prizes that are non cash? like mouse pads, headsets, games etc Then people wouldn't be interested Most of the tournaments rewarding equipment are free participate and sponsored by the brand of the equipment. Cash tournaments are popular, because average players may think they could grab some money by cheesing their way, or with a little luck. edit : On September 28 2010 18:33 PlaGuE_R wrote: well the entry fee for a tournament wouldn't be very high, or it's pretty pointless. Something like 10-15 euros to enter, or 50 euros for a month membership with unlimited play time and access to all tournaments. You can't do this. You need an entrance fee to build the prize pool. You would have a bunch of dirty nerds who literally live in your cyber cafe. First it's not profitable, because 50euros per month is not enough to build the prize pool of the dozens of tournaments they will play. Second, they would disgust casual gamers ! In Asia, there are thousands of players who live in PC Bangs, eating instant noodles inside, sleeping on the desk. They only go back to their parents home like once or twice a week to shower... I promise you, you don't want that kind of people in your café. The monthly fee would be at least 400 euros to make it profitable lol ^^ | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
You can't do this. You need an entrance fee to build the prize pool. You would have a bunch of dirty nerds who literally live in your cyber cafe. First it's not profitable, because 50euros per month is not enough to build the prize pool of the dozens of tournaments they will play. Second, they would disgust casual gamers ! In Asia, there are thousands of players who live in PC Bangs, eating instant noodles inside, sleeping on the desk. They only go back to their parents home like once or twice a week to shower... I promise you, you don't want that kind of people in your café. The monthly fee would be at least 400 euros to make it profitable lol ^^ good point, lol, didnt think of that lmao. So yeah, no monthly fee, or at least with a limit of 5 hours a day or something >.< lol Seriously tho, like 5 euro an hour to play and 15 euros to enter a tourney i guess EDIT: Also, if i did get it going, getting a kind of sponsorship by ESL and WCG meaning that people could get ESL and WCG points while playing would also help IMO | ||
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
but arcade fighting stations could fit in the cafe part of it for people. like SF on the big arcade machines | ||
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
On September 28 2010 19:03 PlaGuE_R wrote: it'd be a platform for competitive gaming, since most of them are on PC ie: CS, SC, Quake Live, and all that then it would be pretty much only PCs but arcade fighting stations could fit in the cafe part of it for people. like SF on the big arcade machines You don't want to buy arcade machines. They are very expensive and you should only consider it if there's a game that's very big in the area, with little to no competition from other arcades. That way you're guaranteed to make back the investment of the machine. Otherwise consoles and a low-end PC can be cheap replacements, and fighting games are good fun for both the scrubbiest of scrubs and pros. | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
On September 28 2010 19:09 Adeny wrote: You don't want to buy arcade machines. They are very expensive and you should only consider it if there's a game that's very big in the area, with little to no competition from other arcades. That way you're guaranteed to make back the investment of the machine. Otherwise consoles and a low-end PC can be cheap replacements, and fighting games are good fun for both the scrubbiest of scrubs and pros. yeah, i guess u wouldnt need a high end PC to play a rom of SF or something ^_^ but then the problem is money, i dont have any XD this is just a vision of mine. Maybe i'll try and get sponsored lol | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
all of the PCs can play SC2, but not in high res .. but its really playable  .. it doesn't have SC2 but the specs are above the minimum req and the rates can be .20$ to .10$ )) | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On September 28 2010 19:16 PlaGuE_R wrote: yeah, i guess u wouldnt need a high end PC to play a rom of SF or something ^_^ but then the problem is money, i dont have any XD this is just a vision of mine. Maybe i'll try and get sponsored lol Money is not the issue as it is just a idea. The issue is actually finding a viable business model involving competitive gaming in France. Maybe you could take advice from LAN organizer to see how they manage to find sponsors/prizes for tournaments. | ||
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