EPTDiamond, what a F'n joke. - Page 2
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Crawler
Estonia248 Posts
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
On September 26 2010 00:19 mOnion wrote: you sound mad and i dont agree with anything you said at all ppl like you give TL a bad name | ||
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StormWeapon
United States159 Posts
Simply because it's sad, but true. The only thing that really matters is your record, league is just a slight indication of level. | ||
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
On September 26 2010 01:13 Crawler wrote: so some random 300 diamond player who's at 80% win rate is better than 1800 diamonid@55% win rate because 300p player doesn't mass games? Players who mass games will improve even at least a bit even if their games aren't top level. It's like saying that jaedong and flash are nobody and noobs because they mass games while some C- players who play 2 games a week own. Where did anyone make this assertion? | ||
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baller
527 Posts
ur @ 600 pts, that makes u worse than most diamond players maybe u should try to at least get above average in diamond b4 complaining about how low skilled it is... | ||
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
On September 26 2010 02:04 baller wrote: there r 37,000 players in diamond ur @ 600 pts, that makes u worse than most diamond players maybe u should try to at least get above average in diamond b4 complaining about how low skilled it is... I don't believe I complained about the skill in diamond, thanks for reading the title and the TL;DR =] | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Crawler
Estonia248 Posts
On September 26 2010 02:01 Biochemist wrote: Where did anyone make this assertion? "Firstly Just because you hit Diamond, doesn't mean you're better than someone in Plat or even Bronze. Not everyone masses games on Ladder, just because you're 200-200 means you have time to play more games. Get off your fucking horse." Explain what he meant then? People who have time to improve themselves and get better should think that they are actually bad? | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
So maybe it sounds like I'm saying people should start saying 'here's a best of 5 with Tester where I went 2-3, this is my advice.' I am not. Advice topics 'why did I lose?' are always worthless. I'm saying if you've played a lot with Tester and he didn't get bored of you, then you can write up a guide about what you think is key in a match-up. Guides are about useful in a strategy forum. Unless you're theorycrafting with a person you know, you will probably never implement all the crap you're supposing. When I look at a replay I think "How could I have won?" and I see the flaw in my opponent's play to exploit next time. Maybe that's why I don't completely suck at RTS  Literally there's no time when the answer to 'why did I lose?' isn't 'do everything better.' This rant is a little out of place but oh well. The strategy forum sucks and people ceasing to post 'LOL IM DIAMOND' won't improve it.+ Show Spoiler + PS: Firstly, Secondly, Thirdly are cutesy/not real words. If that's what you're going for, ok (well it doesn't fit the theme of a rant), but there is no reason to add "ly." | ||
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
@ Crawler ; I think you took what I said in the wrong direction, or I may have typed it incorrectly (frequent habit). The point I'm getting across there was that, not everyone uses the ladder as a way to improve. Though, I'm not denying the fact at all that people who play a lot more games will in turn learn (or so we would hope) and improve on their gameplay. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9107 Posts
No need to rain on other people's parade and if they are being annoying just ignore it. | ||
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Terrakin
United States1440 Posts
"he is doing exactly what he needs to counter you. Medivacs do help and micro your rines." good advice? This is stupid advice, you may as well just tell someone to "play better". Some people don't have enough APM to micro individual marines, especially while being able to macro. | ||
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
On September 26 2010 03:09 Terrakin wrote: your blog is filled with so much idiocy (like contradicting yourself right at the end) that I cant help but think you're "trolling" again. All I want to ask is; how is : "he is doing exactly what he needs to counter you. Medivacs do help and micro your rines." good advice? This is stupid advice, you may as well just tell someone to "play better". Some people don't have enough APM to micro individual marines, especially while being able to macro. There is a bit of trolling underneath some points that I truly believe. Also, not sure what I'm trolling again on but alright. | ||
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Terrakin
United States1440 Posts
On September 26 2010 03:15 DreamScaR wrote: There is a bit of trolling underneath some points that I truly believe. Also, not sure what I'm trolling again on but alright. see, there it is again, you just said there is a bit of trolling, then say, not sure what I'm trolling. I didn't mean to ask you if you were trolling, that was just my speculation. If you want to know why I think that, try reading your whole post over again, it doesn't make sense. Look at IdrA for instance, all he does is KR ladder with the occasional practice partner when he can get it, but IdrA is amazing and his understanding of the game (zerg wise) is great. How can you say former skill has no importance when IdrA was just any old b-teamer on CJ Entus, and now hes one of the favorites to win everything (maybe not with all these ex-pros joining now though).. Hell look at (some) WeRRa players compared to (some) ex BW players, all their former skills trasnferred over, WeRRa players cannot macro, but can micro, while BW players know that macro is just as important as micro. | ||
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Oddysay
Canada597 Posts
how can someone who played 1000 game can be worst that someone who played 20-30 game ? signed a 1364 diamond players race: random division: diaarebetterplayers rank : 12 | ||
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onewingedmoogle
Canada434 Posts
On September 26 2010 00:15 dinmsab wrote: Nice rant.. and I hate to break it to you but there is no friggin way people in bronze/silver/gold are better than diamond players, that just makes no sense. Maybe mid-diamond players could be better than a diamond with slightly higher points, but thats about it. If you are good.. a few games would get you really high on the ladder, we're not talking about more than 2 hours of daily gaming here. I agree though, some people who claim to be diamonds provide really shitty advice.Although people in the lower tier tends to spew out ever weirder shit than what bad diamonds have to say. im in gold and i can convincingly take games from my friend who is in diamond going off on that, my friend was c- on iccup in bw( i was d) and previously i could never beat him, but with the super simplified mechanics in sc2 it lets sum1 like me with less focus, management ability, and raw handspeed win against someone who outranges me in those categories. all in all, the ranking really doesnt tell you what skill level you are | ||
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
On September 26 2010 03:29 Terrakin wrote: see, there it is again, you just said there is a bit of trolling, then say, not sure what I'm trolling. I didn't mean to ask you if you were trolling, that was just my speculation. If you want to know why I think that, try reading your whole post over again, it doesn't make sense. Look at IdrA for instance, all he does is KR ladder with the occasional practice partner when he can get it, but IdrA is amazing and his understanding of the game (zerg wise) is great. How can you say former skill has no importance when IdrA was just any old b-teamer on CJ Entus, and now hes one of the favorites to win everything (maybe not with all these ex-pros joining now though).. Hell look at (some) WeRRa players compared to (some) ex BW players, all their former skills trasnferred over, WeRRa players cannot macro, but can micro, while BW players know that macro is just as important as micro. I thought you had meant I had trolled somewhere else, I confused myself there :p. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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PokePill
United States1048 Posts
To people below Diamond, when someone says they are 1000 point Diamond it may appear it is some kind of brag, but in reality they have a pretty realistic idea of how good they are and are most likely embarrassed if anything about plateauing at that specific number. | ||
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FC.Strike
United States621 Posts
For instance, I can say with certainty that 1500+ is generally going to be a very good player. 1300-1500 is going to be a player who sorta knows what they're doing, but has some sort of glaring flaw in their gameplay (maybe their builds are off, or their mechanics are bad) 1000-1300 is like the 1300-1500, but perhaps they'll have lesser mechanics, or their strategies are less refined. And of course, as rating goes down, decision making gets progressively worse. If I could have my way, ratings would be posted on every single post. Why? Because although rating might not work all of the time, I can get a pretty good feel for someone's experience and skill levels from that one number. And someone who's more skilled and more experienced will inherently know the game better than someone merely theorycrafting from watching replays. If you think you know more about strategy than someone better than you, you're probably god awful. | ||
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