EPTWhen max sized maps appear, we'll see the macro games. But that depends on whether Blizzard wants to cater to new players, who would rather have short 10 minutes of one base all-ins, than 40 to 60 minutes of intense macro every game.
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Blisse
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When max sized maps appear, we'll see the macro games. But that depends on whether Blizzard wants to cater to new players, who would rather have short 10 minutes of one base all-ins, than 40 to 60 minutes of intense macro every game. | ||
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howerpower
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Severedevil
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
On September 17 2010 05:26 Chill wrote: I love threads like this. "I do something blindly and my opponent counters it. What the fuck?! What didn't he do what I wanted?!" I'm not saying he shouldn't have done what he did. On the contrary, he won, therefore its good for him that he did that, what i am doing here is asking people's opinions on why 1 base play is so popular. Off topic: love your casting of TL attack and TLOwnage, you're hilarious dude :D | ||
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fabiano
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QuanticHawk
United States32130 Posts
On September 17 2010 07:50 PlaGuE_R wrote: I'm not saying he shouldn't have done what he did. On the contrary, he won, therefore its good for him that he did that, what i am doing here is asking people's opinions on why 1 base play is so popular. Off topic: love your casting of TL attack and TLOwnage, you're hilarious dude :D It's popular because there's a lot of short distance maps, and people like you play blindly or refuse to change. That equals a free win for just about anyone who thinks for two seconds, adapts, and micros. | ||
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RyuChus
Canada442 Posts
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
On September 17 2010 08:05 Hawk wrote: It's popular because there's a lot of short distance maps, and people like you play blindly or refuse to change. That equals a free win for just about anyone who thinks for two seconds, adapts, and micros. I don't play blindly -.- I uploaded that replay cuz it was the most recent one but that was for a cup and i was nervous so i made some mistakes. I know I made some mistakes, I'm not an idiot, and there's no need to be condescending about it -.- | ||
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JustQuitWarcraftIII
United States679 Posts
On September 17 2010 05:47 moopie wrote: 1 base play is better than 3-4 base macro games? you don't even get to see most of the tech. The best bw games were macro games. In sc2 expoing is harder because of the lack of high-ground-advantage and hard counters. Then again, any sort of macro game in sc2 atm is blob vs blob, so yeah those aren't thrilling, but sc2 is no bw. Well the thing is BW has too many long macro games. I'm not suggesting that every game should be about 1 base plays but it's nice to see some quick actions like back in 2001-2003. If macro games were so good then why would people hate FlaSh? He's the perfect macro player. | ||
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seRapH
United States9793 Posts
On September 17 2010 10:51 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote: Well the thing is BW has too many long macro games. I'm not suggesting that every game should be about 1 base plays but it's nice to see some quick actions like back in 2001-2003. If macro games were so good then why would people hate FlaSh? He's the perfect macro player. flash turtles. 2 base play is not turtling. there are plenty of timing pushes in bw that are 2base. 3hatch hydra, 6fact, and pretty much every pvz build nowadays is a 2base build. | ||
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JustQuitWarcraftIII
United States679 Posts
On September 17 2010 11:15 seRapH wrote: flash turtles. 2 base play is not turtling. there are plenty of timing pushes in bw that are 2base. 3hatch hydra, 6fact, and pretty much every pvz build nowadays is a 2base build. You're definitely right and I made a mistake there by equating any play with more than one base to macro. However, the OP was wants "mass battles of BW which were followed by mass macro, followed by mass battles". Since timing pushes tend to not result in such, 2 base plays in BW as you described still don't match his definition of macro games. Rather they fit the "one battle decides the outcome" scenario more, which the OP has a problem with in regards to 1 base plays in SC2. | ||
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PlaGuE_R
France1151 Posts
On September 17 2010 14:48 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote: You're definitely right and I made a mistake there by equating any play with more than one base to macro. However, the OP was wants "mass battles of BW which were followed by mass macro, followed by mass battles". Since timing pushes tend to not result in such, 2 base plays in BW as you described still don't match his definition of macro games. Rather they fit the "one battle decides the outcome" scenario more, which the OP has a problem with in regards to 1 base plays in SC2. exactly what I'm saying ^_^ | ||
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