• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:06
CEST 16:06
KST 23:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall12HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed10Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll4Team TLMC #5 - Submission extension3Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Who will win EWC 2025? Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft in widescreen A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches CSL Xiamen International Invitational [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Future of Porn Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Summer Games Done Quick 2025!
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 616 users

[Sc2] Two types of Zerg players

Blogs > vnlegend
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
September 05 2010 00:39 GMT
#1
I win TvZ probably half the time.

Whenever I lose, I'm facing mutas, lings, banelings, some roaches that completely surround me and kill everything. I am outmacro'ed and doomed. Then I am forced to GG.

Whenever I win, I'm facing lings, roaches, hydras (lol noob). And this is always followed by "you're so lucky. cheesy noob. f u terran faggot" or something like "fuking Terran ez mode. You're so bad I don't see how you win" *Player leaves*

I'm so imbalanced!

*
Marines > everything
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
September 05 2010 00:43 GMT
#2
Well forcing one race to play only one composition in X matchup may sign that some units are UP in this matchup. Also BMing is a wrong way.

Pro Tip: Never think playing Banelings vs Mass Marine is too "Newbie" and "easy". Roaches won't do so good...
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
September 05 2010 00:50 GMT
#3
i am so confused as to why you made a blog.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Eiserne
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States340 Posts
September 05 2010 00:51 GMT
#4
Obviously he wants to tell people how terrible of a player he is, if he can pick Terran and STILL lose half his TvZs.

Clearly a sympathy blog, no?
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 05 2010 01:05 GMT
#5
Let's try to turn this thread into something less useless:

Terran players, why do most of you choose medivac marine marauder as your main unit composition in TvZ? Whenever I play Zerg it seems really easy to deal with. Infestor / ling / bling just completely roflstomps it when some decent micro. On the other hand, I can never beat terran players that go tank / thor / helion.

When I play terran I also find the latter way more effective
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
September 05 2010 01:09 GMT
#6
On September 05 2010 10:05 SubtleArt wrote:
Let's try to turn this thread into something less useless:

Terran players, why do most of you choose medivac marine marauder as your main unit composition in TvZ? Whenever I play Zerg it seems really easy to deal with. Infestor / ling / bling just completely roflstomps it when some decent micro. On the other hand, I can never beat terran players that go tank / thor / helion.

When I play terran I also find the latter way more effective


shhh... don't leak that please
ThE.SparkZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States381 Posts
September 05 2010 01:14 GMT
#7
This blog is imbalanced.
A battle between gods is just so damn beautiful
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 05 2010 01:18 GMT
#8
who still build hydras in zvt?
Creek
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States177 Posts
September 05 2010 01:18 GMT
#9
On September 05 2010 09:43 Kurumi wrote:
Well forcing one race to play only one composition in X matchup may sign that some units are UP in this matchup. Also BMing is a wrong way.

Pro Tip: Never think playing Banelings vs Mass Marine is too "Newbie" and "easy". Roaches won't do so good...


Have you ever watched the broodwar scene?
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
September 05 2010 01:23 GMT
#10
So you're saying Zerg players can be classified as Zergs who go muta/ling/bane/roach and Zerg players who go roach/hydra/ling? And former are good and the latter are whiny?
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
September 05 2010 01:28 GMT
#11
it's hard to chirp a zerg about their unit composition when terran can throw every unit at their disposal together and make a combination that's strong against anything, and it's not out of the ordinary to do so. common to see marines, marauders, tanks, thors, vikings, medivacs, in a single game, while zerg is forced into a certain composition of 3-4 units units to maybe survive.

you have it right when you say you get out macroed and then lose. the macro's what the winners are doing and the losers are not.
How's the weather down there?
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
September 05 2010 01:29 GMT
#12
On September 05 2010 10:23 Saracen wrote:
So you're saying Zerg players can be classified as Zergs who go muta/ling/bane/roach and Zerg players who go roach/hydra/ling? And former are good and the latter are whiny?


I think he's trying to make the point that Zergs who know what they're doing roflstomp him, but Zergs that don't and then complain how he's the overpowered one.
Sup.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
September 05 2010 01:54 GMT
#13
On September 05 2010 10:18 kNyTTyM wrote:
who still build hydras in zvt?
tell me how I can deal with 5-6 banshees mixed in with his army while not having a decent air control.
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
September 05 2010 02:01 GMT
#14
On September 05 2010 10:54 SC2Phoenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 10:18 kNyTTyM wrote:
who still build hydras in zvt?
tell me how I can deal with 5-6 banshees mixed in with his army while not having a decent air control.


Mutarishks?
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
September 05 2010 02:15 GMT
#15
cellwerra goes roach/zergling into roach/hydra/muta in zvt quite often.


o_O
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
September 05 2010 02:31 GMT
#16
hrmm, i feel that the 2 types of zerg players are something more like this:
1. (more common): The Zergs who jump on the "imba" bandwagon and use it as an excuse for their losses. example: Most low-level zergs

2. (rare/uncommon): The Zergs who don't cry "imba" until they are absolutely certain that something is actually wrong with the game, and have tried every possible option prior to giving in. example: professional zergs.
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
September 05 2010 02:36 GMT
#17
On September 05 2010 11:31 blahman3344 wrote:
hrmm, i feel that the 2 types of zerg players are something more like this:
1. (more common): The Zergs who jump on the "imba" bandwagon and use it as an excuse for their losses. example: Most low-level zergs

2. (rare/uncommon): The Zergs who don't cry "imba" until they are absolutely certain that something is actually wrong with the game, and have tried every possible option prior to giving in. example: professional zergs.

Conclusion: All Zergs cry "imba."
Lucid90
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada340 Posts
September 05 2010 02:54 GMT
#18
hydra right now are quite possibly the worst fucking unit to go against terran. Terran literally don't have units that aren't amazing against hydras. Lets think about it:

-marine: no explanation needed
-marauder: doesn't do extra damage to light armoured, but it does slightly less dmg than marines for the mineral price so they are good, not to mention marauder + concussive shells = hydra's slower than my fucking grandma who telling me my hydra's are under attack
- reaper: extra damage against light units
- hellion: extra damage against light
- thors: I believe they 2 shot hydras but Im not sure, still every cost effective
- tanks: no explanation needed

even the raven is good because of the point defence drone, and medivacs are wonderfaul against hydra's because of the speed of the drops terran can use is faster than hydra speed.

I basically never go hydra's zvt. I stick to staying alive, which means roaches for hellions or reapers, lings for marauders, banelings for marines. Then I get my muta out and I have the freedom of not worrying about dying immediately. Sometimes I get a good muta harras sometimes not, but in the meanwhile I get upgrades going, a third base and hive tech for ultras. Once I have ultra baneling, I can 1a into anything he has. And if he takes too much expo's I just make more muta and so some harras. Im currently a 1050 diamond zerg
My sc2 account: http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1296221/LuciD
CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
September 05 2010 02:57 GMT
#19
Totally agree with Blahman3344. It hurts my head from all the people blaming on this terrans op fad
SCV good to go sir
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
September 05 2010 03:00 GMT
#20
On September 05 2010 10:54 SC2Phoenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2010 10:18 kNyTTyM wrote:
who still build hydras in zvt?
tell me how I can deal with 5-6 banshees mixed in with his army while not having a decent air control.


What kind of situation is that?
Opponent has 5banshees yet zerg didn't go mutalisks? First I question why you didn't go mutalisks in the first place. Second I wonder why you don't transition into mutalisks when you see banshees.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Vindicta 222
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 43700
Rain 6184
EffOrt 1564
BeSt 1244
Larva 604
firebathero 471
Stork 404
Mini 318
PianO 247
Rush 216
[ Show more ]
Light 205
Mind 155
Pusan 72
Aegong 67
GoRush 67
sSak 54
JulyZerg 54
Movie 53
sas.Sziky 50
Noble 37
Shinee 36
yabsab 26
scan(afreeca) 16
SilentControl 10
Shine 8
Bale 5
Terrorterran 3
ivOry 3
Dota 2
qojqva3733
Fuzer 223
canceldota121
League of Legends
Dendi1727
Counter-Strike
sgares657
byalli366
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi44
Other Games
B2W.Neo2511
singsing2029
DeMusliM446
crisheroes415
Lowko400
Mew2King115
ArmadaUGS98
Pyrionflax60
QueenE55
markeloff53
Trikslyr28
ToD17
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3936
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1181
League of Legends
• Nemesis2381
• Jankos1221
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
1h 54m
ShoWTimE vs sebesdes
Percival vs NightPhoenix
Shameless vs Nicoract
Krystianer vs Scarlett
ByuN vs uThermal
Harstem vs HeRoMaRinE
PiGosaur Monday
9h 54m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
The PondCast
1d 19h
WardiTV European League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
[ Show More ]
CSO Contender
4 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Online Event
5 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
5 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Esports World Cup
6 days
ByuN vs Astrea
Lambo vs HeRoMaRinE
Clem vs TBD
Solar vs Zoun
SHIN vs Reynor
Maru vs TriGGeR
herO vs Lancer
Cure vs ShoWTimE
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Championship of Russia 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
RSL Revival: Season 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.