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SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 18:46:32
September 03 2010 18:45 GMT
#1
Any body here notice that in the campaign mutalisks are actually seen flying through space...

They actually float through the vacuum of space, flapping their little wings as they engage in interstellar travel.

Am I the only one that finds this odd? The first time I saw the supposedly ominous army of zerg fliers fluttering about through the great beyond I actually laughed out loud. I don't think that was the intended effect.

Which also begs the question; how do the zerg move from star to star? They don't have warp speed travel like the terrans or teleportation technology like the protoss.

Do they just flap their little wings at the speed of light, or what?

Edit: So I am clear; you cannot fly in space by flapping your wings.


*
I'm such a baller in my dreams. - HiFriend
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 03 2010 18:47 GMT
#2
Who cares, realism in video games is totally overrated.

If you truly care though, then nydus worms??
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
September 03 2010 18:48 GMT
#3
WTF !?

LOL I cant believe you are so thick. If you would have taken the time to read the compendiums the lore fully explains in the starcraft universe why it works.

:facepalm:
Each day gets better : )
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
September 03 2010 18:50 GMT
#4
On September 04 2010 03:48 ella_guru wrote:
WTF !?

LOL I cant believe you are so thick. If you would have taken the time to read the compendiums the lore fully explains in the starcraft universe why it works.

:facepalm:

:3 can you explain how it works
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Nokarot
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1410 Posts
September 03 2010 18:51 GMT
#5
A wizard did it.
beep beep boop
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 03 2010 18:51 GMT
#6
maybe they propel bits of stardust


maybe some rainbows as well
Writer
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 18:52:47
September 03 2010 18:51 GMT
#7
yeah man how can you be so stupid so-as to not have all the starcraft lore memorized



On September 04 2010 03:47 SubtleArt wrote:
Who cares, realism in video games is totally overrated.

If you truly care though, then nydus wormholes

ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
September 03 2010 18:52 GMT
#8
On September 04 2010 03:50 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 03:48 ella_guru wrote:
WTF !?

LOL I cant believe you are so thick. If you would have taken the time to read the compendiums the lore fully explains in the starcraft universe why it works.

:facepalm:

:3 can you explain how it works


ya
Each day gets better : )
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
September 03 2010 18:52 GMT
#9
zerg can use warp space, the overmind was able to create warp rifts or w/e the technical term was and go pewpew to other stars, they could even warp directly onto a planet's surface unlike terrans who have to warp in outside a planet's gravity field or something like that. (except in sc2 campaign where the hyperion goes whoooosh whilst still on the planet's surface).

/nerd
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
September 03 2010 18:52 GMT
#10
On September 04 2010 03:52 ella_guru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 03:50 Malgrif wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:48 ella_guru wrote:
WTF !?

LOL I cant believe you are so thick. If you would have taken the time to read the compendiums the lore fully explains in the starcraft universe why it works.

:facepalm:

:3 can you explain how it works


ya

all this talk where's the explanation though ???
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 18:53:35
September 03 2010 18:53 GMT
#11
On September 04 2010 03:52 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 03:52 ella_guru wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:50 Malgrif wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:48 ella_guru wrote:
WTF !?

LOL I cant believe you are so thick. If you would have taken the time to read the compendiums the lore fully explains in the starcraft universe why it works.

:facepalm:

:3 can you explain how it works


ya

all this talk where's the explanation though ???



In the hearts in each and every one of us.

It's not something I have to teach you, merely something you have to unlock within yourself.
Each day gets better : )
SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
September 03 2010 18:55 GMT
#12
Yes, this has been exactly as fruitful as I had hoped!
I'm such a baller in my dreams. - HiFriend
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 18:56:36
September 03 2010 18:56 GMT
#13
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Behemoth
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
September 03 2010 18:59 GMT
#14
On September 04 2010 03:56 Milkis wrote:
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Behemoth


Lol at there being a real answer
Each day gets better : )
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
September 03 2010 19:04 GMT
#15
Seriously, everyone on TL has the Starcraft lore memorized! Obviously it's because of the Behemoth.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
September 03 2010 19:04 GMT
#16
On September 04 2010 03:56 Milkis wrote:
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Behemoth


gg
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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
September 03 2010 19:05 GMT
#17
On September 04 2010 03:53 ella_guru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 03:52 Malgrif wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:52 ella_guru wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:50 Malgrif wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:48 ella_guru wrote:
WTF !?

LOL I cant believe you are so thick. If you would have taken the time to read the compendiums the lore fully explains in the starcraft universe why it works.

:facepalm:

:3 can you explain how it works


ya

all this talk where's the explanation though ???



In the hearts in each and every one of us.

It's not something I have to teach you, merely something you have to unlock within yourself.

so basically you're useless =(
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
September 03 2010 19:10 GMT
#18
That still doesn't explain why mutas flap their wings in space!
I'm such a baller in my dreams. - HiFriend
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
September 03 2010 19:13 GMT
#19
They flap wings in space because ships can shoot healing rays at people.
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Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
September 03 2010 19:17 GMT
#20
On September 04 2010 04:10 SpicyCrab wrote:
That still doesn't explain why mutas flap their wings in space!


Do you move your arms when you walk?
Brood War forever!
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
September 03 2010 19:19 GMT
#21
'He drew a UNICORN in space. I'm asking you, what's it breathing?'
'Air?'
'Ain't no air in space!'
'There's an air in space museum.'
it's my first day
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
September 03 2010 19:20 GMT
#22
On September 04 2010 04:05 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 03:53 ella_guru wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:52 Malgrif wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:52 ella_guru wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:50 Malgrif wrote:
On September 04 2010 03:48 ella_guru wrote:
WTF !?

LOL I cant believe you are so thick. If you would have taken the time to read the compendiums the lore fully explains in the starcraft universe why it works.

:facepalm:

:3 can you explain how it works


ya

all this talk where's the explanation though ???



In the hearts in each and every one of us.

It's not something I have to teach you, merely something you have to unlock within yourself.

so basically you're useless =(


nah
Each day gets better : )
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
September 03 2010 19:22 GMT
#23
On September 04 2010 04:10 SpicyCrab wrote:
That still doesn't explain why mutas flap their wings in space!


They flap their wings because they are flying, duh.
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
September 03 2010 19:34 GMT
#24
You should make a blog about why they put the pew-pews and the explosions sounds in Star Wars because the sound is a mechanical wave, hence the dogfights should be totally mute.
ॐ
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
September 03 2010 19:40 GMT
#25
The description of Mutas in the original sc mentioned that they are capable of travelling through space like that so this does not bother me at all : 3
brood war for life, brood war forever
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 03 2010 19:44 GMT
#26
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
September 03 2010 19:45 GMT
#27
Someone please start a Science of Starcraft video blog.
Each day gets better : )
SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
September 03 2010 19:48 GMT
#28
On September 04 2010 04:44 SubtleArt wrote:
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?


Duh, cuz they have that visor on, dude.
I'm such a baller in my dreams. - HiFriend
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
September 03 2010 19:50 GMT
#29
On September 04 2010 04:44 SubtleArt wrote:
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?

How does cloaking even work?
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
September 03 2010 19:53 GMT
#30
On September 04 2010 04:44 SubtleArt wrote:
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?

Light doesn't necessarily have to pass through you, it just has to seem like it passes through you. For example, there is work being done on vehicles where the skin is essentially one giant screen that plays a video of what's on the other side (obviously more complicated than that, but as an example). Therefore, nothing needs to change on the inside of the vehicle, the outside skin takes care of all of it.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 19:57:25
September 03 2010 19:55 GMT
#31
Maybe I've not seen this moment yet, but when I've seen mutas "in space", it seemed they were just high in the sky, with the camera moving around them showing the starry sky / another planet.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
September 03 2010 19:55 GMT
#32
On September 04 2010 04:13 Fumi wrote:
They flap wings in space because ships can shoot healing rays at people.


Its actually a stream of nano-bots (: not magic - far from IRL technology sure, but theoretically that's how nano-tech will work in the future. Also about the Mutalisk flying in space well, they aren't flying, they built up momentum while still in a gravity field. Once they enter the vacuum that momentum is maintained. Thats the scientific explanation if you want one.
i-bonjwa
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
September 03 2010 20:01 GMT
#33
Wow if the Zerg still uses anything similar to Behemoths to transport their broods, I imagine the Protoss/Terran would be jumping for joy when they realize they can take out an entire Brood by discovering the timings of their long space-journeys.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 03 2010 20:02 GMT
#34
On September 04 2010 04:44 SubtleArt wrote:
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?


cloaking isn't invisibility
look up optical camouflage
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
September 03 2010 20:11 GMT
#35
On September 04 2010 04:13 Fumi wrote:
They flap wings in space because ships can shoot healing rays at people.


they have actually started developing a light that can heal open wounds
http://www.smartplanet.com/business/blog/smart-takes/us-air-force-investigates-using-laser-light-to-heal-war-injuries/6745/
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Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
September 03 2010 20:30 GMT
#36
On September 04 2010 04:10 SpicyCrab wrote:
That still doesn't explain why mutas flap their wings in space!


Because we move our legs to walk.
And open and close (?) our lungs to breath.
PhuxPro
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States294 Posts
September 03 2010 20:34 GMT
#37
On September 04 2010 05:30 Kolvacs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:10 SpicyCrab wrote:
That still doesn't explain why mutas flap their wings in space!


Because we move our legs to walk.
And open and close (?) our lungs to breath.


Horrible explanation. We wouldn't move our legs consciously to try and walk in space, either.

The one where the guy said how we move our arms while we walk is a much better to comprehend.

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TadH
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1846 Posts
September 03 2010 21:06 GMT
#38
On September 04 2010 05:34 PhuxPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:30 Kolvacs wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:10 SpicyCrab wrote:
That still doesn't explain why mutas flap their wings in space!


Because we move our legs to walk.
And open and close (?) our lungs to breath.


Horrible explanation. We wouldn't move our legs consciously to try and walk in space, either.

The one where the guy said how we move our arms while we walk is a much better to comprehend.




Actually, you probably would move your legs to try and walk, or gain some kind of foot hold on something if you were in a space suit in space. It's a reaction, just like you move your arms when you fall, it doesn't do anything, but you do it anyway.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
September 03 2010 21:07 GMT
#39
Maybe they just feel like flapping their wings?

Why are we so quick to judge their behaviors?

' - ' a
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SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 21:18:47
September 03 2010 21:17 GMT
#40
I can just imagine couple mutas floating around.

Some other muta says "dude, why are you flapping your wings in space man, there's no point."

Our muta shrugs, he's like "haters gonna hate." and flaps off on his way.
I'm such a baller in my dreams. - HiFriend
brocoli
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 21:31:19
September 03 2010 21:31 GMT
#41
They can fly because they project an extremely strong magnetic field under them, which makes them impassable by "mortal means"

...no wait
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 03 2010 22:19 GMT
#42
On September 04 2010 05:02 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:44 SubtleArt wrote:
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?


cloaking isn't invisibility
look up optical camouflage


For something moving at that speed? Seems very unlikely
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 03 2010 22:21 GMT
#43
On September 04 2010 04:53 theonemephisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:44 SubtleArt wrote:
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?

Light doesn't necessarily have to pass through you, it just has to seem like it passes through you. For example, there is work being done on vehicles where the skin is essentially one giant screen that plays a video of what's on the other side (obviously more complicated than that, but as an example). Therefore, nothing needs to change on the inside of the vehicle, the outside skin takes care of all of it.


That's kinda irrelevant. It's pretty simple science that something that is invisible (basically transparent) means that light goes through it, and doesn't get absorbed (if it did then the thing would be black). I guess you could bring in camoflauge, where the vehicle changes its color to be exactly like its outside environment, but that sounds ridiculously complex for a flying vehicle, even with sc2 technology.
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
September 03 2010 22:24 GMT
#44
On September 04 2010 04:17 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:10 SpicyCrab wrote:
That still doesn't explain why mutas flap their wings in space!


Do you move your arms when you walk?

The difference is that moving your arms when you walk increases the efficiency of your body.

Flapping your wings in space would be useless. I bet mutas just fart to propel themselves
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-03 22:28:21
September 03 2010 22:27 GMT
#45
On September 04 2010 07:19 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 05:02 travis wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:44 SubtleArt wrote:
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?


cloaking isn't invisibility
look up optical camouflage


For something moving at that speed? Seems very unlikely


as likely as psyonic energy and bugs flying through space and hybrid human/bugs and whatever the fuck else?

compared to these things, yes, it seems entirely possible
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
September 03 2010 22:45 GMT
#46
if i recall there were a few threads on this very thing and they were answered if i recall
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
September 04 2010 01:04 GMT
#47
On September 04 2010 07:21 SubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2010 04:53 theonemephisto wrote:
On September 04 2010 04:44 SubtleArt wrote:
While everyone's being nerdy, can some1 explain this?

How are banshee drivers not blind when they cloak? To be invisible, all light has to pass through you. This means your eyes don't absorb light, so you obviously can't see. I can maybe understand ghosts, because u just order them around, but how do banshees target other units and operate their planes without sight?

Light doesn't necessarily have to pass through you, it just has to seem like it passes through you. For example, there is work being done on vehicles where the skin is essentially one giant screen that plays a video of what's on the other side (obviously more complicated than that, but as an example). Therefore, nothing needs to change on the inside of the vehicle, the outside skin takes care of all of it.


That's kinda irrelevant. It's pretty simple science that something that is invisible (basically transparent) means that light goes through it, and doesn't get absorbed (if it did then the thing would be black). I guess you could bring in camoflauge, where the vehicle changes its color to be exactly like its outside environment, but that sounds ridiculously complex for a flying vehicle, even with sc2 technology.

Maybe for something to be actually invisible you need it to pass through you, but for something to look invisible, you just need to make it look like the light is passing through you. For instance, by projecting the same image that you expect to see. That would also explain why you see a "ripple" in sc2 when it moves, the software isn't quite fast enough to keep up with a changing background, but can be pretty perfect when it's still.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_camouflage

Not only is it definitely possible with sc2 technology, it's even probably feasible in the foreseeable future for us. OLED's let you put flexible screens on all kinds of surfaces, and then you basically need a set of cameras and a lot of software to interpret and project the images. They've already done similar tests using mounted projectors, which are obviously less reliable, but they are some pretty cool tests (google invisibility cloak).
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
September 04 2010 11:09 GMT
#48
This reminds me of the old 'how do guardians fly?' threads.
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