• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:32
CEST 16:32
KST 23:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE14Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly5Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"9
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b Terran or Protoss
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation
Brood War
General
BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread 2026-27 Football Thread placeholder TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4527 users

SC2 Ladder Rant

Blogs > Dance.
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
August 01 2010 18:21 GMT
#1
So I've played 28 games as zerg on the 1v1 ladder so far. An interesting trend has be happening....

My games have consisted of 3 Terran,1 Zerg, and 24 Protoss.
WTF is this shit???? Now usually PvZ isn't that bad if it wasn't for all the fucking cheese these guys do. HOLY SHIT! Endless fighting vs 2gate, 4 warp gate, fast void rays, mass phoenix, pyloning my ramp like fucking idra vs tester. It's fucking bullshit. It's so fucking exhasting playing against that shit every fucking game.

I am seriously hoping its just because its the beginning of the game and not going to be how ladder is in 2 months from now. I don't even think Zerg exists anymore.

Fuck Protoss.

*
It is what it is...
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
August 01 2010 18:23 GMT
#2
I think all the zergs that aren't playing you are playing me.
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
August 01 2010 18:29 GMT
#3
Its ok man. I like it when I play against the same race a lot, because then you can focus on one matchup and polish your builds ;-) Look at it this way, you might improve your PvZ a lot by the end of this "trial" because that's all you've been doing
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 01 2010 18:30 GMT
#4
dude consider yourself lucky...ZvT is worse when it comes to endless cheese....just ask idra or artosis
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
August 01 2010 18:35 GMT
#5
lol my matchups are pretty even, but you should be happy cuz zvp is a lot easier than zvt And many would argue zvp is easier than pvz too O-o
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
August 01 2010 18:37 GMT
#6
ive been getting nonstop t's and thats the worst. They can do whatever they want and unless you are twice as good as them you arent winning.
Better than Pokebunny
Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
August 01 2010 18:38 GMT
#7
Haha, you guys are right. I bet if it was playing more terrans i would be writing an imba blog. i just wish there was more variety for me. plus i think the new 4 player map is GOD AWFUL
It is what it is...
Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
August 01 2010 18:45 GMT
#8
28 games and not even 1 random player?! Talk about stacking those races
Smash fear, learn anything; except for spiders
gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
August 01 2010 18:46 GMT
#9
I play so many damn Protoss it's ridiculous. And half the time they do stupid crap like cannon rushes.
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 18:48:30
August 01 2010 18:48 GMT
#10
2 gate isn't cheese. And everyone have to deal with this, many Zergs do baneling all ins and terrans do proxy 2 port banshee and so on.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
August 01 2010 18:53 GMT
#11
Where are all the terrans then?

Wait, if this is is a lower level league then... there probably aren't that many?

That was a completely unfounded statement.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
August 01 2010 18:57 GMT
#12
would prefer ZvT mech? lol
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
August 01 2010 18:59 GMT
#13
--- Nuked ---
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
August 01 2010 19:04 GMT
#14
On August 02 2010 03:21 Dance. wrote:
Fuck Protoss.


SC2 is sounding more and more like BW every day
KT fighting~!! | Designing things is fun!
snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
August 01 2010 19:19 GMT
#15
On August 02 2010 04:04 Gliche wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 03:21 Dance. wrote:
Fuck Protoss.


SC2 is sounding more and more like BW every day

Now ain't that a good thing?
"Language is Freeware, in that it's free to use, but it's not Open Source, so you can't just change things how you like."
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 01 2010 19:30 GMT
#16
I have the exact opposite. I have 50 games played and majority are ZvZ. My brain is bleeding from all the retarded banelings.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 01 2010 19:31 GMT
#17
I guess I'm lucky to be playing against all matchups although I've played mostly against P and T.
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 01 2010 19:41 GMT
#18
Protoss are very easy to pick up, so I think a lot of the new people use them. What league are you in? I luckily don't have this problem because I play random, so I just pray I don't get ZvZ because that matchup very predictable and not very fun.

Also, like someone said above me, I feel like 2 gating and 4 gating aren't really cheese, but just a very standard and difficult style to play against.

Hopefully it will even out as people get better mechanics, are exposed to the game more and pick other races. I fear zergs will always be few and far between because it is a difficult race to play and a lot of it hinges on playing reactionary styles. Protoss can 4 gate, regardless of the their opponent's plan, but zergs might need to change their plan if they scout the 4gate.

At least you are doing well scouting the "cheese" though! As long as you see it coming, it is just a matter of punishing them for their risky play
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
gheddo
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Germany28 Posts
August 01 2010 19:43 GMT
#19
hmm i play like 10-15% PvP, most games are vs Terran closely followed by Zergs.
Dunno if it depends on the league or just luck, doesn't rly matter anyway right? ^^
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 19:46:46
August 01 2010 19:45 GMT
#20
Funny I would love to play mostly protoss since it is my best matchup. Lots of protoss in my division but full ladder looks pretty spread out. Be glad you aren't playing terran 24 out of 28 games. You'll want to kill yourself

edit: Oh ya please don't throw around the word cheese. 2 gate isn't cheese. 4 gate is an all-in which isn't necessarily cheese. Void ray isn't cheese. Mass phoenix isn't cheese. Pylon ramp is cheese
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Escore
10:00
Season 3 Week 5
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 320
XaKoH 106
ProTech75
RushiSC 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 59480
Calm 7823
firebathero 1553
Shuttle 1318
Mini 880
Mind 426
Tasteless 252
Stork 250
Larva 232
hero 208
[ Show more ]
Snow 170
Mong 116
Rush 67
JulyZerg 53
scan(afreeca) 47
ToSsGirL 43
Pusan 42
Barracks 34
sorry 29
sSak 28
NaDa 27
Sexy 14
Rock 12
Dota 2
Gorgc8945
qojqva2085
Counter-Strike
fl0m4505
kRYSTAL_50
Other Games
FrodaN1227
hiko1083
B2W.Neo989
Lowko606
Mlord531
DeMusliM324
crisheroes164
Liquid`VortiX157
djWHEAT92
TKL 88
Mew2King48
QueenE48
Trikslyr0
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile126
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2261
• WagamamaTV501
League of Legends
• Jankos1772
• TFBlade1136
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
1h 28m
Spirit vs sOs
GgMaChine vs Percival
Serral vs MaxPax
OSC
7h 58m
Replay Cast
9h 28m
Afreeca Starleague
13h 28m
RSL Revival
18h 28m
ByuN vs SHIN
Solar vs Lambo
WardiTV Summer Champion…
20h 28m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Clem vs Serral
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 21h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-30
SCTL 2026 Spring
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W5
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
Escore Tournament S3: W8
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.