• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:28
CEST 13:28
KST 20:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out6RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 5/8 Protoss AoE skill expression August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Michaelbg appreciation thread ASL22 General Discussion How FlaSh Nearly Forfeited MSL Finals being late BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4745 users

SC2 Ladder Rant

Blogs > Dance.
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
August 01 2010 18:21 GMT
#1
So I've played 28 games as zerg on the 1v1 ladder so far. An interesting trend has be happening....

My games have consisted of 3 Terran,1 Zerg, and 24 Protoss.
WTF is this shit???? Now usually PvZ isn't that bad if it wasn't for all the fucking cheese these guys do. HOLY SHIT! Endless fighting vs 2gate, 4 warp gate, fast void rays, mass phoenix, pyloning my ramp like fucking idra vs tester. It's fucking bullshit. It's so fucking exhasting playing against that shit every fucking game.

I am seriously hoping its just because its the beginning of the game and not going to be how ladder is in 2 months from now. I don't even think Zerg exists anymore.

Fuck Protoss.

*
It is what it is...
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
August 01 2010 18:23 GMT
#2
I think all the zergs that aren't playing you are playing me.
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
August 01 2010 18:29 GMT
#3
Its ok man. I like it when I play against the same race a lot, because then you can focus on one matchup and polish your builds ;-) Look at it this way, you might improve your PvZ a lot by the end of this "trial" because that's all you've been doing
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 01 2010 18:30 GMT
#4
dude consider yourself lucky...ZvT is worse when it comes to endless cheese....just ask idra or artosis
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
August 01 2010 18:35 GMT
#5
lol my matchups are pretty even, but you should be happy cuz zvp is a lot easier than zvt And many would argue zvp is easier than pvz too O-o
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
August 01 2010 18:37 GMT
#6
ive been getting nonstop t's and thats the worst. They can do whatever they want and unless you are twice as good as them you arent winning.
Better than Pokebunny
Dance.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
August 01 2010 18:38 GMT
#7
Haha, you guys are right. I bet if it was playing more terrans i would be writing an imba blog. i just wish there was more variety for me. plus i think the new 4 player map is GOD AWFUL
It is what it is...
Yammiez
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada186 Posts
August 01 2010 18:45 GMT
#8
28 games and not even 1 random player?! Talk about stacking those races
Smash fear, learn anything; except for spiders
gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
August 01 2010 18:46 GMT
#9
I play so many damn Protoss it's ridiculous. And half the time they do stupid crap like cannon rushes.
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 18:48:30
August 01 2010 18:48 GMT
#10
2 gate isn't cheese. And everyone have to deal with this, many Zergs do baneling all ins and terrans do proxy 2 port banshee and so on.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
August 01 2010 18:53 GMT
#11
Where are all the terrans then?

Wait, if this is is a lower level league then... there probably aren't that many?

That was a completely unfounded statement.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
August 01 2010 18:57 GMT
#12
would prefer ZvT mech? lol
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
August 01 2010 18:59 GMT
#13
--- Nuked ---
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
August 01 2010 19:04 GMT
#14
On August 02 2010 03:21 Dance. wrote:
Fuck Protoss.


SC2 is sounding more and more like BW every day
KT fighting~!! | Designing things is fun!
snpnx
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany454 Posts
August 01 2010 19:19 GMT
#15
On August 02 2010 04:04 Gliche wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 03:21 Dance. wrote:
Fuck Protoss.


SC2 is sounding more and more like BW every day

Now ain't that a good thing?
"Language is Freeware, in that it's free to use, but it's not Open Source, so you can't just change things how you like."
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 01 2010 19:30 GMT
#16
I have the exact opposite. I have 50 games played and majority are ZvZ. My brain is bleeding from all the retarded banelings.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 01 2010 19:31 GMT
#17
I guess I'm lucky to be playing against all matchups although I've played mostly against P and T.
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 01 2010 19:41 GMT
#18
Protoss are very easy to pick up, so I think a lot of the new people use them. What league are you in? I luckily don't have this problem because I play random, so I just pray I don't get ZvZ because that matchup very predictable and not very fun.

Also, like someone said above me, I feel like 2 gating and 4 gating aren't really cheese, but just a very standard and difficult style to play against.

Hopefully it will even out as people get better mechanics, are exposed to the game more and pick other races. I fear zergs will always be few and far between because it is a difficult race to play and a lot of it hinges on playing reactionary styles. Protoss can 4 gate, regardless of the their opponent's plan, but zergs might need to change their plan if they scout the 4gate.

At least you are doing well scouting the "cheese" though! As long as you see it coming, it is just a matter of punishing them for their risky play
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
gheddo
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Germany28 Posts
August 01 2010 19:43 GMT
#19
hmm i play like 10-15% PvP, most games are vs Terran closely followed by Zergs.
Dunno if it depends on the league or just luck, doesn't rly matter anyway right? ^^
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 19:46:46
August 01 2010 19:45 GMT
#20
Funny I would love to play mostly protoss since it is my best matchup. Lots of protoss in my division but full ladder looks pretty spread out. Be glad you aren't playing terran 24 out of 28 games. You'll want to kill yourself

edit: Oh ya please don't throw around the word cheese. 2 gate isn't cheese. 4 gate is an all-in which isn't necessarily cheese. Void ray isn't cheese. Mass phoenix isn't cheese. Pylon ramp is cheese
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
2026 Week 19
IntoTheiNu 326
RotterdaM216
WardiTV209
SteadfastSC49
LiquipediaDiscussion
Replay Cast
09:00
KungFu Cup 2026 Week 18
CranKy Ducklings93
LiquipediaDiscussion
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#94
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko331
RotterdaM 216
TKL 92
SteadfastSC 49
Rex 43
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 23393
Shuttle 3776
Bisu 1087
firebathero 706
Hyuk 367
Mini 353
Soulkey 317
actioN 296
Rush 271
Larva 228
[ Show more ]
Light 194
EffOrt 185
Killer 159
Snow 144
Stork 143
Soma 142
PianO 125
Last 117
Pusan 100
hero 84
Sexy 74
Barracks 70
Hyun 68
ZerO 54
ToSsGirL 43
Hm[arnc] 28
Sharp 26
yabsab 21
Shine 21
JulyZerg 20
sSak 19
Terrorterran 18
Free 17
NotJumperer 17
JYJ 16
sorry 10
Dota 2
Dendi790
Fuzer 151
League of Legends
JimRising 293
Counter-Strike
fl0m4229
olofmeister993
shoxiejesuss762
byalli687
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King157
Other Games
B2W.Neo382
crisheroes220
DeMusliM183
Sick156
ToD127
QueenE37
Liquid`LucifroN36
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV47
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 12
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 71
• LUISG 19
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2280
League of Legends
• Jankos1062
Other Games
• WagamamaTV307
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 32m
The PondCast
22h 32m
OSC
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Escore
1d 22h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
OSC
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
[ Show More ]
The Patches Monday
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-10
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.