EPTSC2 Ladder Rant - Page 2
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Dance.
United States389 Posts
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Blixy213
United States360 Posts
On August 02 2010 03:57 Polar_Nada wrote: would prefer ZvT mech? lol I agree, I play Protoss (Don't stop reading now!) and I get cheesed by Terran A LOT, also Mech is a real pain to deal with. I've played about 80% Terran myself, I wouldn't mind at all playing more Protoss games, Zerg would be nice too. | ||
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glamglen
United States33 Posts
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Dance.
United States389 Posts
On August 02 2010 05:00 glamglen wrote: As Protoss easily 60-70 of my 100 ladder games were pvp. this is what i imagined. lol | ||
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URfavHO
United States514 Posts
This was easily the most fulfilling game I've ever played. I hate people that all in. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Also, I've noticed that even in Bronze, I always get placed against Plat players. Still don't know why. I rarely play other Bronzes. | ||
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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Dance.
United States389 Posts
On August 02 2010 05:53 Tazza wrote: Dude, you should be happy. PVZ is probably the most balanced matchup in the game right now. At least u aint playin terrans all the time or boring baneling zvz all the time i dont know how balanced 2 gate into void rays on steppes of war is... | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
But yes I agree, it feels like the ladder consists mostly of deflecting 4 warpgate all day with intermittent zvts vs mech that go 25 minutes minimum. It's kinda strange that few protosses do 3 warpgate->expo->macro up gateway unit+colossus army as quickly as possible. That build is way more challenging than 4-warpgate to beat. The tester 2 gate zealot into fast expo is also really underused and powerful. | ||
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Dance.
United States389 Posts
On August 02 2010 06:17 Drowsy wrote: Assuming your ladder name is the same as your tl name, I was the zerg you played. I went roaches and tried to tech to mutas quickly but you got a spire 30 seconds earlier and I lost easily. In the chat you were talking about facing cheesy protosses. It was metalopolis and we were the positions close by air. My bnet name is Legion. But yes I agree, it feels like the ladder consists mostly of deflecting 4 warpgate all day with intermittent zvts vs mech that go 25 minutes minimum. It's kinda strange that few protosses do 3 warpgate->expo->macro up gateway unit+colossus army as quickly as possible. That build is way more challenging than 4-warpgate to beat. The tester 2 gate zealot into fast expo is also really underused and powerful. hahaha! how can i forget the 1 out of 3 zergs i played. but yea i agree with you. I think i just need to tough it out and learn how to defend anything with 14 pool 15 hatch. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
On August 02 2010 06:36 Dance. wrote: hahaha! how can i forget the 1 out of 3 zergs i played. but yea i agree with you. I think i just need to tough it out and learn how to defend anything with 14 pool 15 hatch. I stopped 14 pool 15 hatching against any race. Now I just 15 gas 15pool and it works perfectly fine. Idra was using it in some games in kotb tournament. I highly highly recommend it. Spoiler for which games I mention + Show Spoiler + I believe every single game in the finals vs tester he used a gas pool build. | ||
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TwilightStar
United States649 Posts
On August 02 2010 03:21 Dance. wrote: Endless fighting vs 2gate, 4 warp gate, fast void rays, mass phoenix Whoa whoa whoa... wait... you are mad about 2 gate? What else are we supposed to do? ~_~ I can understand why you are mad about fast voids, or mass phoenix, but 2 gate and 4 warp gate...? It's hard to understand why you are mad about that,.. | ||
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On August 02 2010 06:55 kNyTTyM wrote: I stopped 14 pool 15 hatching against any race. Now I just 15 gas 15pool and it works perfectly fine. Idra was using it in some games in kotb tournament. I highly highly recommend it. Spoiler for which games I mention + Show Spoiler + I believe every single game in the finals vs tester he used a gas pool build. I too used that build all day yesterday. It has it's pros and cons. It pretty much guarantee you an advantage against 2 gate, ramp cheese, hatch block, or some sort of very early terran aggro, but it results in a much weaker economy and a delayed tech. I would never want to be in a situation where I'd opened with that build instead of 14 pool 15 hatch vs terran mech or vs a defensive macro toss. Overall I think it's much better against protoss than it is against terran. | ||
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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Dance.
United States389 Posts
On August 02 2010 07:07 TwilightStar wrote: Whoa whoa whoa... wait... you are mad about 2 gate? What else are we supposed to do? ~_~ I can understand why you are mad about fast voids, or mass phoenix, but 2 gate and 4 warp gate...? It's hard to understand why you are mad about that,.. not really mad, just super annoyed that the only games i can play in ladder is vs protoss. doesnt matter what build they do, starts to get boring | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On August 02 2010 03:21 Dance. wrote: WTF is this shit???? Now usually PvZ isn't that bad if it wasn't for all the fucking cheese these guys do. HOLY SHIT! Endless fighting vs 2gate, 4 warp gate, fast void rays, mass phoenix, pyloning my ramp like fucking idra vs tester. 4 of the 5 builds u listed aren't cheese... gj losing to standard protoss shit and being so mad about it u call it cheese | ||
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