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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 28 2010 13:53 GMT
#1
I do like the game, no matter what you might think from the thread title. But some shit is downright ridiculous.

Monday evening, launch party. Obviously, I'm a normal working person, so I don't get to spend the night with geeks and children, and but in on Tuesday instead. However, I got abit nostalgic, and instead of getting a digital download copy (like I should have) I bought a retail box. Who doesn't love shiny boxed filled with random shit? 30 bucks for a 1-year playtime isn't too bad either.

Anxious, I come home. Clearing up 10 gb of space wasn't really that easy, but I do it in a breeze and launch the installer, expecting to play the game in approximately 15 minutes.

"Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan".

The game installs itself for more than a hour explaining various shit I already know in a bad russian voice. Finished? Hell no, please wait 20 minutes more patching. Meanwhile (important!) I connect my B.net account to my game's CD-key.

Next step - the loading screen. Not that the main menu loads slow, but it sure gives me an excellent experience compiling some maps. It's several more minutes. Finally I load the menu, press 'Connect' and I'm told that I don't own a copy of StarCraft II. Marvelous! But sir, I really do!

"Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan"

Ok, I'm a tech guy. I know how to fix stuff in some cases. After googling for solution I notice a guy with the same problem who fixed it by changing his password. This is absurd, but it works, I'm able to login.

I will later return to my experience with the game, but my experience with my changed B.net account can be best characterized as disenchanting. Do you still remember that I bought the game for $30? I can upgrade my account to "Full version" for a small price of $50 more. I slowly realize that I've been fucking robbed, what an idiot. Afaik, in US you can buy a normal lifetime access SC2 for $50 total, correct me if I'm wrong. Well, there ain't any opportunities to buy a retail "Full" SC2 in Russia. Not at all. Now the "budget" price policy for Russia aimed at people who can't afford buying a game for $50 is in fact a robbery, because in the end, you will have to pay $80 and there's no way to avoid it.

But can I at least get rid of the shitty translation? I did it for StarCraft, I did it for Diablo II, I should be able to do it with StarCraft II, right?

"Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan"

Downloading game clients in Russia is restricted to russian localization. Checkmate. Moreover, I have a russain client already registered, I can't just unregister it (well, no, in fact I think that if I offer Blizzard free $30, they will surely take it despite the rules). I'm stuck playing a shitty localized version for a year until I will have to pay the full $80 price of the wonderful gaming experience. Only hope left is cross-region play.

But is the shit worth it? When I first played SC, I had a Pentium 60. Even though that mighty machine was below SC's minimum system specs (P-90), I've never experienced any problems other than a slight lag in 800/800 team melee games. I've never had any performance issues with Diablo II, nor WarCraft III. StarCraft II, on the contrary, is SLOW. The game freezes for a few seconds here and there, I get choppy animations, somewhat unresponsive controls and "You've got a new achievement!!!" messages flooding my screen. Tolerable? Well, maybe. Maybe I'm somewhat wrong completing missions on Veteran in 10 minutes, I should play worse, but after that 10 minutes elapse, I have to watch at a loading screen for Hyperion for 3 minutes and 3 minutes more for the new mission, that's 60% the time of actual playing. After mission 5 or 6, the loading screen progress bar never managed to finish and I went to sleep. I can't prove I've seen it, but I'm under strong impression that that loading screen had a hidden text layer with "Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan" on it.

Conclusion:

I'm being treated like shit. Repeatedly. Even though I'm a paying customer. The game itself is nice, but getting to play it is a nightmare both with Activision lurking behind every corner and 1 gigabyte of mem in the swap file.

Unless you really love SC and can't survive without playing SC2 or unless you're living in US and own a top-end gaming rig, I would seriously recommend against buying SC2 in the near future until things settle down. I hope they will, but signs tell it that the Blizzard of old is long long gone.

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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
July 28 2010 14:01 GMT
#2
sounds like your pc sucks, that's not something you can really blame on blizzard

the password change shit is nothing more than a mild annoyance, the only legitimate complaint in this post is the price.
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
July 28 2010 14:09 GMT
#3
hehe nice story..

there is a writeup in the main sc2 forum that fixes the lag from your gpu overheating, as that may be the problem with your lag

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120860
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 28 2010 14:10 GMT
#4
Your computer blows
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 28 2010 14:15 GMT
#5
Lol I love the title "Son, I am dissapoint" made me think of a dad facing his son and telling him that he is a failure.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 28 2010 14:17 GMT
#6
Wow, Blizzard is treating other regions like second class citizens.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 28 2010 14:35 GMT
#7
On July 28 2010 23:09 guN-viCe wrote:
hehe nice story..

there is a writeup in the main sc2 forum that fixes the lag from your gpu overheating, as that may be the problem with your lag

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120860


It's not the GPU, it's mem most likely. I "only" (lol!) have 2 gb and the game is swapping 1 gb.

It's eating 1 gb of raw memory and 1 gb of swap. I fail to see how that complies with the 1 gb total in the system requirements.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 28 2010 14:37 GMT
#8
On July 28 2010 23:15 GreEny K wrote:
Lol I love the title "Son, I am dissapoint" made me think of a dad facing his son and telling him that he is a failure.


....

That's kinda the point? Did I just take the bait?
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17008 Posts
July 28 2010 14:47 GMT
#9
On July 28 2010 23:15 GreEny K wrote:
Lol I love the title "Son, I am dissapoint" made me think of a dad facing his son and telling him that he is a failure.


It's actually a 4chan meme.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 28 2010 15:53 GMT
#10
I don't mean to be rude but it sounds to me that while I do disagree with some of the new pricing in places like Russia the problems you seem to be having ignoring dubbing and translations you don't like(I have not seen it so I can't judge too well). The big issue you have is more then likely running on your end, it may be time to upgrade the PC. I had a install time of about 15 minutes and 5 minutes of patches *shrug* Hope you find solutions to your problems soon though.
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
July 28 2010 16:04 GMT
#11
The only thing I can confirm from all this (living in the US, I got the actual game, not some 1-year localization nonsense) is that basically if your computer doesn't have a dedicated graphics card you're screwed, no matter what your other specs are.

Which honestly is in line with the minimum specs on the game box, but also sucks, both for casual gamers like myself in general, and in comparison to SC:BW which could run on a microwaved brick.

(The game does *run*, but you're stuck with lowest settings and slightly degraded frame-rates.)

If you're on a network, the constantly-connected thing just makes it worse.

On the other hand, the game itself is awesome.
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LittleMikeStarCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada120 Posts
July 28 2010 17:39 GMT
#12
You own a computer that is below specs? So do I-- I stream live video, and also record using software.. and have very few issues.

Also-- blame your country, not Blizzard. Either way-- I always like to hear a good rant thread, even if they anger isn't always justifiable.
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T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
July 28 2010 18:08 GMT
#13
yeahh. It was pretty gay. Dont upgrade ur accnt. Cos the espansion will prolly be out ina yr anyways.

i finished he campaign on hard and it didnt count cos achievements were offline.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 28 2010 18:21 GMT
#14
I know what you mean about the slow thing man. I played 1, count it, ONE game of Beta... and I just couldn't stand the low FPS. T_T I only have a laptop for gaming, and it's a pretty decent one with like 3 gigs of ram, 4ghz dual core processor, and all that stuff... but no dedicated graphics card Because of that, I can't even run SC2 in fear of lag and low FPS rate. T_T I want to play SC2 too...
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viscral
Profile Joined February 2010
United States45 Posts
July 28 2010 18:41 GMT
#15
Bummer about your price issues. Something got lost in translation. Currencies vary around the world...and I'm sure Jim Raynor isn't speaking in Russian Voice. I guess in Russia, game play you.

SC2 does possess a very mild hiccup in occasional loading sequences. With all that's going on in these hard veteran missions, the sheer amount of mission content running... and an old computer with arguably lower performance than a custom built rig...you see, right there. A console would never run this. Even I had to tweak my graphics settings lower than what I can do well in multi-player back in beta.

My fav, its all the old school map exploring gameplay, just like when I was like 14 playing Orcs and Humans...Sigaty is the man. SC2 NA client for the win.Sorry for your trouble tho!

This, is PC. Gaming.
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TyPsi5
Profile Joined May 2010
United States204 Posts
July 28 2010 22:00 GMT
#16
build a new computer. 500 beans and you can play on ultra all day
flyinfart
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States95 Posts
July 28 2010 23:44 GMT
#17
So you are poor, have an out of date computer (2gigs is standard for a web browsing computer these days, not a computer you play video games on), and bought the single player mode of the game because it was cheaper. Tough luck, /b/rother.

Why the fuck was this posted on the front page???
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
July 29 2010 00:26 GMT
#18
On July 28 2010 23:01 Tropics wrote:
sounds like your pc sucks, that's not something you can really blame on blizzard

the password change shit is nothing more than a mild annoyance, the only legitimate complaint in this post is the price.

And then that's no complaint because it's the asking price for the version here in SEA regions, and was even before we got the perk of US access (a necessity more than a bonus mind you).
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
July 29 2010 02:24 GMT
#19
Eh, should have checked beforehand if it would run smoothly. If your computer is above system requirements and your country have good consumer protection, consider making a complaint.

We also have that distinct pricing and I find it awesome. Anyone who knows gonna play longer may purchase the digital version or have the box shipped overseas. Helps much on introducing people to the game, however...

Only thing that pisses me off is the localization. Looks like it was done by professional translators, not someone who cares for the game. Things like "terranos" sound so stupid I'd do everthing to not play in portuguese.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 29 2010 02:34 GMT
#20
How anyone can blame blizzard on this matter is pretty astounding.
First complaint, His computer blows. This is Blizzards fault how? My computer isn't super great and I can manage to squeeze out ultra on all settings in singleplayer with only having a minor lag as the map loads up.

Second complaint: It's in Russian. It's Blizzards fault that they cater to people that doesn't speak English very well shame on them! It's all their fault that he didn't get a English version of the game, they should have called him up and made sure he wouldn't make this misstake.

Third complaint: The price. I'm sorry but Blizzard isn't making any extra dime of you paying 80 bucks for this, they are getting the exact same value for each copy while the retailers are the ones pocketing the extra money. They did not make up some kind of Russian-tax just to piss you off.

Also complaining about something as minor as a really really minor launch day bug is just silly.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 29 2010 07:06 GMT
#21
StarCraft II leaks memory, after day 2 it's clear as day. Which is a better scenario since it can be fixed.

After 4 hours of playing the campaign, total mem expenses are about 2,5 gb. That's a goddamn lot, Blizzard has 2 as a recommended amount and 1 as minimum.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
July 29 2010 11:44 GMT
#22
Not exactly what I expected from something that got front paged...
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
July 29 2010 14:40 GMT
#23
Can 20 post people that have only been registered to the site for 20 days please show some respect to forum veterans? Honestly these sc2 chobos
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
July 29 2010 15:19 GMT
#24
On July 29 2010 23:40 Scaramanga wrote:
Can 20 post people that have only been registered to the site for 20 days please show some respect to forum veterans? Honestly these sc2 chobos


despite the fact nearly everything he says is minor or a problem on his end we should show him respect?

bluzman is usually an alright poster but this is a terrible topic
Sooner
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden2 Posts
July 29 2010 16:19 GMT
#25
I wouldn't blame Blizzard for the problems Russia create for you in this.
Also seems to be your computer not being up to the task.
Not Blizzards fault at all.

Dunno why me living Europe wouldn't be able to enoy it flawlessly too. Infact, I have!
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
July 29 2010 17:18 GMT
#26
On July 29 2010 20:44 Brett wrote:
Not exactly what I expected from something that got front paged...

same here. but regardless, its interesting to see someone who had troubles compared to i'm assuming the majority of us that had a smooth install.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
July 29 2010 17:22 GMT
#27
On July 30 2010 01:19 Sooner wrote:
I wouldn't blame Blizzard for the problems Russia create for you in this.

Blizzard region locking their different language clients sounds like Blizzard's fault to me.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 29 2010 17:37 GMT
#28
On July 30 2010 00:19 Tropics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2010 23:40 Scaramanga wrote:
Can 20 post people that have only been registered to the site for 20 days please show some respect to forum veterans? Honestly these sc2 chobos


despite the fact nearly everything he says is minor or a problem on his end we should show him respect?

bluzman is usually an alright poster but this is a terrible topic

Yes? Being respectful, and telling him he's wrong aren't mutually exclusive.
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Qzy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Denmark1121 Posts
July 29 2010 18:00 GMT
#29
Seriously.. My old laptop runs sc2 smooth..

What specs do you have?
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Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
July 29 2010 18:02 GMT
#30
On July 30 2010 02:37 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 00:19 Tropics wrote:
On July 29 2010 23:40 Scaramanga wrote:
Can 20 post people that have only been registered to the site for 20 days please show some respect to forum veterans? Honestly these sc2 chobos


despite the fact nearly everything he says is minor or a problem on his end we should show him respect?

bluzman is usually an alright poster but this is a terrible topic

Yes? Being respectful, and telling him he's wrong aren't mutually exclusive.


just because you have 3000 posts and you explain your opinion using a lot of words doesn't change the fact your post is still ridiculous though

there's a difference between "this is an edgy topic from a well respected user, give him the benefit of the doubt" and "wow this thread is objectively terrible no matter who is posting it"

whine threads about sc2 here seem to get a lot of leniency they don't deserve imo, the fact that this made the front page is a joke

and to reiterate i think bluzman is a solid poster whos just frustrated by some incredibly small issues he had and needed to vent, but fuck, i really hate topics like these no matter the reason.
mpupu
Profile Joined June 2010
Argentina183 Posts
July 29 2010 18:08 GMT
#31
I don't understand why people are saying his only problem is having an outdated computer. Most of the issues seem to be directly related to Blizzard, and I've heard similar complaints from players in the LatAm region. Let's recap:

* Installation takes a while, needs patching the day after release. Expected but still not nice.
* Account/password not recognized. Bug, Blizzard's fault.
* No incremental update for people who bought the restricted version. Same problem for LA players. Blizzard promised this, but I heard they're going to fix it.
* Restricted languages. Blizzard's decision (mainly causing complaints from regions where English is not offered. Seeing as how most people played SC1 in English, I can see why.)
* Bad performance. Only issue possibly caused by old hardware.
SpicyCrab
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-29 18:09:56
July 29 2010 18:08 GMT
#32
Sounds like his complaints are basically legit to me.;

Blizzard region locks localization, that's balls

Blizzard offers no normal pricing option for Russians, that's balls

Blizzard registration doesn't work until you change your password, that's balls.

Of course, it's not Blizzards fault that his computer sucks but every other complaint is legit and if i were in his shoes I would be PISSED.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 29 2010 18:27 GMT
#33
On July 28 2010 23:47 Empyrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 23:15 GreEny K wrote:
Lol I love the title "Son, I am dissapoint" made me think of a dad facing his son and telling him that he is a failure.


It's actually a 4chan meme.


Oh... Have never visited the site so wouldn't know :D
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 29 2010 19:21 GMT
#34
On July 30 2010 03:08 mpupu wrote:
I don't understand why people are saying his only problem is having an outdated computer. Most of the issues seem to be directly related to Blizzard, and I've heard similar complaints from players in the LatAm region. Let's recap:

* Installation takes a while, needs patching the day after release. Expected but still not nice.
* Account/password not recognized. Bug, Blizzard's fault.
* No incremental update for people who bought the restricted version. Same problem for LA players. Blizzard promised this, but I heard they're going to fix it.
* Restricted languages. Blizzard's decision (mainly causing complaints from regions where English is not offered. Seeing as how most people played SC1 in English, I can see why.)
* Bad performance. Only issue possibly caused by old hardware.


You're saying that it's legit to whine about:

Installation time? Yes it takes a while to install shit, it has always been that way. The better your computer the faster it goes.

A very minor bug on a release day?! HOLY SHIT CALL DOWN THE THUNDER!

Restricted versions. Don't buy the restriced version then, people are not saying that restricted versions isn't bullcrap. Because it is, but ´he just didn't pay attention bought it and then cried about it being restriced.

This is the only small valid point, it really should be an option to just swap languages, that's a okey complaint.

And the last one we agree on his computer is crap.

The OP as a few valid concerns in a seas of crap don't expect people to jump in start trying to salvage whatever is left.
mpupu
Profile Joined June 2010
Argentina183 Posts
July 29 2010 20:47 GMT
#35
On July 30 2010 04:21 Hynda wrote:
Restricted versions. Don't buy the restriced version then, people are not saying that restricted versions isn't bullcrap. Because it is, but ´he just didn't pay attention bought it and then cried about it being restriced.


Did you read the original post?

On July 28 2010 22:53 BluzMan wrote:
Well, there ain't any opportunities to buy a retail "Full" SC2 in Russia.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 29 2010 20:53 GMT
#36
On July 30 2010 03:08 mpupu wrote:
* No incremental update for people who bought the restricted version. Same problem for LA players. Blizzard promised this, but I heard they're going to fix it.

There is an incremental update. He complained that there was no option to initially buy the full version, and assumed that restricted + upgrade would be more expensive than the full version. The thing is, the EU and SEA versions price out to about $80 USD anyway, so restricted + upgrade isn't really more expensive than those options.

It's stupid that the game is that expensive, but it's hardly some special plan meant to screw over Russian SC2 players.
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Stoles
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey53 Posts
July 29 2010 21:56 GMT
#37
Atleast get a better graphic card.
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
July 29 2010 22:33 GMT
#38
Can you explain why is your English so good? Did you live somewhere else before? I literally know 1 guy that fluently speaks both and he used to live in the US.
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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
July 29 2010 22:41 GMT
#39
On July 30 2010 05:47 mpupu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2010 04:21 Hynda wrote:
Restricted versions. Don't buy the restriced version then, people are not saying that restricted versions isn't bullcrap. Because it is, but ´he just didn't pay attention bought it and then cried about it being restriced.


Did you read the original post?

Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 22:53 BluzMan wrote:
Well, there ain't any opportunities to buy a retail "Full" SC2 in Russia.

I did read the post. I am not saying anything about not being able to buy the full game. That wasn't what he was whining about. If he had said "You can't get the game over here, that's bullshit" I would have gone "Fair enough, that is bullshit" but he went out and bought something he didn't want and was pissed at it not being the full version feeling ripped off. That is another matter entierly. In both cases blizzard has really fuck all to do with it, simply because they want to make money, they don't have any gain by selling demo versions.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
July 30 2010 00:36 GMT
#40
why is this thread in the first page in the spotlight? am I missing something here?
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 00:49:16
July 30 2010 00:48 GMT
#41
When I check this again in the morning and if there is still off topic argueing behind my post it's going to be hammertime.

Manner up or take it to PM. This is not the place.
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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
July 30 2010 02:15 GMT
#42
I'm not sure why there are so many haters in this thread. Every complaint, except the one where his shitty computer is at fault, is legitimate. He feels like he should be able to buy the game at a fair price, select the region settings, and install it simply. That's a pretty reasonable expectation.
PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 03:15:38
July 30 2010 03:14 GMT
#43
im agree with this blizzard sucks with translating they are awfull everybody hates it here, and u cant buy other version that the one on ur country i will buy it on USA cause it seems that there is no other option
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 30 2010 08:10 GMT
#44
On July 30 2010 11:15 Slow Motion wrote:
I'm not sure why there are so many haters in this thread. Every complaint, except the one where his shitty computer is at fault, is legitimate. He feels like he should be able to buy the game at a fair price, select the region settings, and install it simply. That's a pretty reasonable expectation.


The thing is that I really expected a smooth experience from Blizzard. There are many minor things, they stack, and the whole impression is rather negative. I would take that from someone like .dat (Disciples III anyone?) but taking that from Blizzard is psychologically hard.

Please answer, does anybody else experience mem leaks in the game? I have to restart the client every now and then to smooth out my experience, otherwise it gets choppy.

Btw, my computer is in the recommended specs zone, way above minimum specs. I can't see why complaining about performance in that case is not legitimate. Also, it seems that the leaks/performance issues only happen in prolonged sessions of single-player.

Idk, but when you say that a game requires 1 gb of RAM as a minimum, there is no way it can take up 2,5 without bugs.
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RabidRat
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada13 Posts
July 30 2010 09:27 GMT
#45
No, I agree. I think a lot of you are missing the point: yeah the issues on their own are pretty small, and it's easy to pick them apart and say they're nothing. But when you put them all together, it becomes a miserable experience. Sure there are some things that weren't entirely Blizzard's fault, but they could've done a better job of delivering a better overall impression. And that's one thing I felt that SC1 really delivered on - overall impression.

Also Hynda, I think people would be a lot more inclined to listen to what you had to say if you would calm down and try to be civil.
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Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
July 30 2010 19:57 GMT
#46
Well, I ran it both on my 2 year old desktop (Core 2 Duo / 4Gb ram/Ati 4850) and my old laptop (Athlon64 / 2Gb ram / some lousy nvidia laptop graphics) and had no such problems. It's not amazingly fast on the laptop, but playable on low-medium settings, although I didn't run it for too long.

On my desktop, I've been keeping SC2 launched whole day, tabbing in and out and playing, no problems at all.
sowosamma
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8 Posts
July 31 2010 20:24 GMT
#47
pls that´s a joke is it? u mean by activating my german client i used up my activation code and are unable to play the english version i´m downloading the whole day? after finding out that the german synchro is downright awful i have to pay another 50 euros for just changing the language whilst in wow i just download a 500mb language pack for free?
well if that´s true i can fully understand his rage. i´d feel tricked and robbery is not a too harsh word for this.
pls someone tell me that this is just a great misunderstanding from my side and not actually true?!
Salty
Profile Joined June 2010
United States90 Posts
August 01 2010 07:44 GMT
#48
this is a joke right...? We're being trolled?

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Needs more salt.
2g4u
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria27 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-01 18:32:22
August 01 2010 18:30 GMT
#49
First of all I completely understand that I can get warned/banned for this post, but I am gonna make it anyway.

So most of the issues that you have are YOURS and I mean YOURS fault.

1. You can arrange your things that way you can be free at Thursday, the SC2 launch date had been announced like month ago...

So "Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan".

2. No wonders that your computer is running slowly, when your HD is full, but it still amazes me that in 2010 the disk space is a problems with HDDs being as cheap as 30$.

3. On mid end PC not older then 2 years the game installs for around 10-15mins. Longer times means that your PC is not optimized or that it is too old.

"Sorry, Mr. BluzMan, but you CAN'T play on the PC that you bought for Starcraft I"

4. Patching takes UNDER a minute. Unless ofc if you are using the good old 56k modem that you bought for Warcraft II Battle.net edition...

5. The problem with the slow refresh(which can be forced by simply changing your password) of some accounts and the thing that they don't allow localized version to use the English translation - I pin that to Blizzard.

6. However the money problems are COMPLETELY yours fault. I live in Bulgaria so don't come at me with the argument that the life standard here is higher than in Russian cause we are almost as poor as most of the Russians. Anyway if you have spent your childhood in studding instead in drinking vodka, you would have a nice job, which would afford you to buy a good gaming rig and a stable connection and the 90 euros(the price for the CE in Bulgaria) which I paid for the CE would seem like well spent money to support one of your favorite games.

So again "Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan".

I normally don't get mad at people easily, but I can't stand people, which love to blame the world for theirs failures.

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my0s
Profile Joined March 2010
United States193 Posts
August 01 2010 21:27 GMT
#50
Ok some of you guys are seriously jumping on the Blizz bandwagon coupled with seeing an excuse to flame. Some of the responses here are quite valid, but missing the point entirely.

1. His computer is apparently, not so great. His fault for running a game below specs and expecting it to run great? Technically yes. But, let us also consider Blizzards LONG standing history of making games that my graphing calculator could run if it put everything on low. Part of it may be that we have reached a tech mark where Blizz was forced to lean on the side of pretty and was unable to scale it down as far as they would like for other customers. But it was a valid point he brought up and something that Blizzard used to be known for in every game until SC2.

2. The Pricing scheme over there is 100% a rip off. I feel it is nothing short of the result of the Acivision merger coupled with the inflated profit expectations since WoW was released. If they truly were trying to make different price structures to accomodate certain regions they would not have the ultimate price tag 40-60%+ above US Retail. Its just greed and it was an extremely valid point.

3. Patching in all honesty didn't take long at all. I understand if in Russia you might not have access to high end broadband like in most of the US, but its not blizzards fault there. It just is what it is. On that note, I know your b.net account was a little frustrating too, but really they just launched b.net 2.0 and if all that happened was some people had to change their password then hell, that still pretty successful launch.

4. Game load times are annoyingly long. Not something I would rage the forums about and boycott the game. But coupled with other problems I can see how it gets frustrating.


So I don't agree with the entire post. But it is deff not something to be flammed or otherwise devalued because it does have a lot of interesting and some extremely valid points on what Blizzard used to be, and where they seem to be going. I still love Blizzard, and they are FAR, FAR and away the best company out there. But even they seem to be falling prey, if nothing else a small part, to the greed and shortcomings that rampantly plague other companies.
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Profile Joined October 2004
United States410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 04:13:37
August 02 2010 04:12 GMT
#51
I've been done with Blizzard and SC2 for a long time now. I had inklings when one of the designers didn't know you merge two templars to get an archon. After that nearly every detail that had to do with gameplay and community was controversial to just plain bad. After all the games I've loved from Blizzard, seeing this game and they way the company's morphed, I'm done with it. Right there with you OP
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iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 18:27:11
August 02 2010 04:19 GMT
#52
On August 02 2010 03:30 2g4u wrote:
However the money problems are COMPLETELY yours fault. I live in Bulgaria so don't come at me with the argument that the life standard here is higher than in Russian cause we are almost as poor as most of the Russians. Anyway if you have spent your childhood in studding instead in drinking vodka, you would have a nice job, which would afford you to buy a good gaming rig and a stable connection and the 90 euros(the price for the CE in Bulgaria) which I paid for the CE would seem like well spent money to support one of your favorite games.

So again "Fuck you, Mr. BluzMan".

I normally don't get mad at people easily, but I can't stand people, which love to blame the world for theirs failures.


Wtf was that? you need to take a deep breath before posting, that was both stupid and offensive. And did you mean studying or studding? Sounds like his English is better than yours anyway. Maybe you should have studied more as a child (unless I'm unfamiliar with usage of studding..?)

I'm sure you have a similar problem in your country. In Russia there are plenty of bright and educated people who simply do not have opportunities, due to workplace politics, to shine. Bashing the system is ok, bashing the people is messed up. This is in reference to your stop drinking and study to get a job comment. So "Fuck you Mr. 2 good 4 you".

Besides, the guy said countless times his comp is above minimum requirements, in the recommended requirements zone. And I can also see how having these problems TOGETHER could be frustrating.

Paying $80 for a game that costs 60 elsewhere is messed up, especially when it is done under a slogan of making it easier for Russians to buy the game, Having to pay ultimately 80 while your expectations of a smooth experience are ruined is even worse.

I'd make a fucked up comment about Bulgarians but actually know a few cool ones, not like yourself, out of respect for them I'll shut up here. Advice for you - take a shot of vodka, you need to relax. And just so you know, there are tons of Russians who are smarter, more educated, richer (since you made a comment about that) and obviously more mannered than you are... make sure this truth sinks into your arrogant head.
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Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 02 2010 13:21 GMT
#53
I bought the game, installed, patched and was playing within 10 minutes.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
August 02 2010 14:31 GMT
#54
Holy crap what a shitstorm.

I have never hoped to acheive something like this =)))
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Iron_
Profile Joined April 2010
United States389 Posts
August 03 2010 20:13 GMT
#55
While I did not have any issues with install, and I dont have to deal with localization stuff either, the game does in fact chunk up and crash more often than I would expect. It also takes forever to load each new screen.

I spent a ton on my computer and it benchmarks in the top 0.1%, so I was pretty disappointed to see load screens taking forever and the game still chunking, particularly with TWO of the highest end graphics cards on crossfire. 90-120 second load screens was not part of what I expected at all.

Otherwise, very happy with everything and I love the game.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
August 03 2010 20:46 GMT
#56
there is only 1 possible solution...


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Sweden33719 Posts
August 03 2010 23:42 GMT
#57
3. On mid end PC not older then 2 years the game installs for around 10-15mins. Longer times means that your PC is not optimized or that it is too old.

Took an hour to install for me and my PC is pretty decent ;/ Most likely it's because my DVD player is pretty crappy tho D:
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 00:24:11
August 04 2010 00:22 GMT
#58
If it makes you feel better, the US copy is $60 retail + tax.


Took an hour to install for me and my PC is pretty decent ;/ Most likely it's because my DVD player is pretty crappy tho D:

My laptop installed faster than my PC, which was weird. The PC got stuck at like 38% for 10 minutes.
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FaZe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada472 Posts
August 04 2010 07:18 GMT
#59
Every service moment in which I directly or indirectly deal with a company is going to add to my overall perception of them. I'll admit, the problems that BluzMan brought to the table are mostly trivial (apart from the lag / lockups, but those are obviously not Blizzard's fault), however with enough SMALL negative service moments, someone's perception of a company can be drastically changed.

For example : If you go to a movie theater and the parking lot is a little messy, is that a big deal? No. What about if there's a line at the Box Office, or you're given the wrong change at the concession stand, or you are directed to the wrong auditorium? I wouldn't say any of these things RUIN your whole experience, but if you put them all together, they result in a view of "Wow, this company is shit." Maybe some people didn't show up for work that day so there was a long line, or the person at the doorstand just had his pet put down and wasn't really paying attention. However, in the end, it doesn't matter what the circumstances are. Accomodations have to be made to improve the service. If the consumer is unhappy with a service, it is due at least in part to the company that provides it.
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2g4u
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria27 Posts
August 04 2010 10:31 GMT
#60
On August 04 2010 08:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
3. On mid end PC not older then 2 years the game installs for around 10-15mins. Longer times means that your PC is not optimized or that it is too old.

Took an hour to install for me and my PC is pretty decent ;/ Most likely it's because my DVD player is pretty crappy tho D:


I used the digital installer, HD2HD is faster then the DVD2HD. Anyway I might be wrong with the times, but it didn't take more then 30 mins to install the game for sure(MPQ extraction is pretty fast).
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Cade
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1420 Posts
August 06 2010 10:15 GMT
#61
I personally hate the translation i am being forced to use. I can't wait until I am able to play an English version.

Other than that, I agree that your only valid complaint is the price, which if it is as you say, is pretty messed up
BierKlauMeister
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany42 Posts
August 06 2010 13:41 GMT
#62
I hate the german translation, and it is STUPID by blizzard to force us to play in a language we dont want to.
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