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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
July 14 2010 21:13 GMT
#1
I first encountered this feature of windowed mode without borders in Left 4 Dead and thought it was the most amazing thing ever that I could alt-tab without things crashing and without the window borders. I just set my game to the highest res on this setting and its like a full screen game that doesn't kill my computer when I alt+tab.

The fact that SC2 has this feature basically establishes SC2 as game of the year all years for me. More games definitely need this feature.

This is a tribute to windowed mode without borders. I love you.


Poll: Windowed mode without borders

Greatest feature (47)
 
76%

Great feature (10)
 
16%

I prefer full screen (5)
 
8%

62 total votes

Your vote: Windowed mode without borders

(Vote): Greatest feature
(Vote): Great feature
(Vote): I prefer full screen




Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Ndugu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1078 Posts
July 14 2010 21:20 GMT
#2
I love this feature. It basically says "If your computer can overpower this game, then please, do so while retaining full access to your OS and whatever else you would like."
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
July 14 2010 21:20 GMT
#3
I smell a biased poll

Anyways, I prefer full screen since I click out of the screen sometimes in windowed and get pwned
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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
July 14 2010 21:21 GMT
#4
On July 15 2010 06:20 frogmelter wrote:
I smell a biased poll

Anyways, I prefer full screen since I click out of the screen sometimes in windowed and get pwned


I set my resolution to fill up my screen so it doesn't happen. So its like a full screen you can still alt+tab out of without the risk of crashing your computer.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
July 14 2010 21:25 GMT
#5
On July 15 2010 06:21 shindigs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 06:20 frogmelter wrote:
I smell a biased poll

Anyways, I prefer full screen since I click out of the screen sometimes in windowed and get pwned


I set my resolution to fill up my screen so it doesn't happen. So its like a full screen you can still alt+tab out of without the risk of crashing your computer.


Two monitors

I run any games that I can in windowed mode anyway, but sometimes my mouse still jumps out of the screen (TF2 especially) and it does ALL the time in sc2 (but not in SCBW with the w-mode plugin... how is that possible?).
SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
July 14 2010 21:26 GMT
#6
I'm all for windowed mode, IFF running in windowed mode produces the same FPS as full screen.

Can someone comment on this?
wsrgry
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 14 2010 21:27 GMT
#7
Yep, window no borders is a great feature.

Alt + tab is super easy
No risk of minimizing (unless you set something to do that)
Alt + tab doesn't take a really long time

Games that have this feature are great! I used it for TF2.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 21:32:10
July 14 2010 21:27 GMT
#8
On July 15 2010 06:25 Issorlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 06:21 shindigs wrote:
On July 15 2010 06:20 frogmelter wrote:
I smell a biased poll

Anyways, I prefer full screen since I click out of the screen sometimes in windowed and get pwned


I set my resolution to fill up my screen so it doesn't happen. So its like a full screen you can still alt+tab out of without the risk of crashing your computer.


Two monitors

I run any games that I can in windowed mode anyway, but sometimes my mouse still jumps out of the screen (TF2 especially) and it does ALL the time in sc2 (but not in SCBW with the w-mode plugin... how is that possible?).


For SCBW, I believe the windowed mode plugin has a setting to keep the mouse within the bounds of the window. That's weird that it happens to you in TF2 because even if I set the res lower then my native, FPS games should keep the mouse within the window whether its full screen or not.

For RTS games, I know most will have your mouse wander off screen if you're not careful or if there aren't special features like SCBW's windowed plugin.

On July 15 2010 06:27 sLiniss wrote:
Yep, window no borders is a great feature.

Alt + tab is super easy
No risk of minimizing (unless you set something to do that)
Alt + tab doesn't take a really long time

Games that have this feature are great! I used it for TF2.


TF2 has this feature?! I only have it as windowed with borders =( Is it in the video options because I've never seen it there.

Edit: nvm just found how to do it. just -noborder in the launch options.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
July 14 2010 21:39 GMT
#9
On July 15 2010 06:27 shindigs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 06:25 Issorlol wrote:
On July 15 2010 06:21 shindigs wrote:
On July 15 2010 06:20 frogmelter wrote:
I smell a biased poll

Anyways, I prefer full screen since I click out of the screen sometimes in windowed and get pwned


I set my resolution to fill up my screen so it doesn't happen. So its like a full screen you can still alt+tab out of without the risk of crashing your computer.


Two monitors

I run any games that I can in windowed mode anyway, but sometimes my mouse still jumps out of the screen (TF2 especially) and it does ALL the time in sc2 (but not in SCBW with the w-mode plugin... how is that possible?).


For SCBW, I believe the windowed mode plugin has a setting to keep the mouse within the bounds of the window. That's weird that it happens to you in TF2 because even if I set the res lower then my native, FPS games should keep the mouse within the window whether its full screen or not.

For RTS games, I know most will have your mouse wander off screen if you're not careful or if there aren't special features like SCBW's windowed plugin.


Yeah, what I'm saying is that the w-mode plugin's cursor restrictions are ten times better than sc2's. My cursor leaves the screen ALL the time in sc2

gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
July 14 2010 21:48 GMT
#10
Pretty sure it lowers game performance since your computer has to render the desktop at the same time. Not sure though, anyone who knows this?
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Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
July 14 2010 21:50 GMT
#11
On July 15 2010 06:48 gillon wrote:
Pretty sure it lowers game performance since your computer has to render the desktop at the same time. Not sure though, anyone who knows this?


Your performance will be a little worse if that's what you're asking.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
July 14 2010 22:01 GMT
#12
I absolutly love this feature. Makes life so much easier
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
July 14 2010 23:10 GMT
#13
This feature is so incredible. I've come to expect it in most games.
. . . nevermore
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
July 14 2010 23:24 GMT
#14
On July 15 2010 06:50 Issorlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 06:48 gillon wrote:
Pretty sure it lowers game performance since your computer has to render the desktop at the same time. Not sure though, anyone who knows this?


Your performance will be a little worse if that's what you're asking.


It makes it slightly worse for me but it's barely noticeable at most times. Even on my laptop which doesn't have that great of specs.
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
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