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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 05 2010 22:48 phosphorylation wrote: you are just arguing semantics it is our instinct to do things that will maximize our survival we learn to do this by taking in knowledge (conditioned, if you really want to say) It's not knowledge. It's perception. Perceptions are often wrong. | ||
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pshych0
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SoManyDeadLings
Canada255 Posts
On June 05 2010 23:07 meegrean wrote: I would be careful of any guy from any race walking around at midnight. If you feel threatened in any way at all, it's better to take a safer course of action. This has a lot more to do with feeling safe than feeling racist. Yah, but if I was to walk past an Asian guy at 3:00am I'd feel a lot safer than walking past a Black guy. It has to do with me feeling safe, but you can't deny that this is inherently racist and I don't believe our society will change any time soon. | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
On June 05 2010 23:12 Jibba wrote: It's not knowledge. It's perception. Perceptions are often wrong. perception is based on knowledge, what are you talking about i am not saying perception = truth of course perceptions are wrong sometimes, but perceptions exist for a reason; because they are often more correct than wrong | ||
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QuoC
United States724 Posts
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FraCuS
United States1072 Posts
On June 05 2010 23:15 pshych0 wrote: just get a gun...or a water melon not cool. | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
If you see two white/asian/hispanic dudes dressed exactly the same way in that situation, would you run? | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
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apm66
Canada943 Posts
On June 05 2010 23:52 illu wrote: Here's a test: If you see two white/asian/hispanic dudes dressed exactly the same way in that situation, would you run? im asian, but if I were to live in the same suburb as in the movie 'Gran Torino', and walked by gangster asians, then yea i would definitely run. It's less about the way they look and more about the way they dress and the environment you live in. If I were to see a black guy, well dressed, no baggy pants, no oversized tshirts, to me he would definitely be a lot more approachable. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
It's not racism, it's profiling but that's not as harmful. Racism imo implies malice in the thought. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 05 2010 23:15 pshych0 wrote: just get a gun...or a water melon winner, but no i dont think its racist at all everyone here would have did the same thing dont even let them try to lie | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
-Followed his instincts. -Reflected on them afterwards. Well done. | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On June 05 2010 23:52 illu wrote: Here's a test: If you see two white/asian/hispanic dudes dressed exactly the same way in that situation, would you run? In some ghetto neighborhood (like mine :[) I would totally run. What the OP did is not racist at all! | ||
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Jerebread
Canada115 Posts
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Mickey
United States2606 Posts
On June 06 2010 02:44 Severedevil wrote: The OP: -Followed his instincts. -Reflected on them afterwards. Well done. I agree. I really don't know what to say. Most people are arguing that it's justified because inherently he was fundamentally trying to protect his girlfriend and himself from any possible threat. Therefore arguing that it was merely a survival instinct. However, others argue that it was inherently wrong because it was a conditioned response to a supposed "dangerous" situation. Therefore being a case of racial profiling. However, I don't think the OP was at fault, but society and more specifically the media to be responsible for how he acted. They are the entity portraying minorities from impoverished areas as threats. I honestly would of done the same thing, regardless of skin color. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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enzym
Germany1034 Posts
maybe they were nice guys and all, but theres no way to be sure until it would be too late. | ||
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Bibbit
Canada5377 Posts
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
All you have to do to answer your own question is to imagine yourself in slightly modified contexts (or actually put yourself in them, then reflect again later as you did here) to see if this is true, i.e. different clothing, different time of day, different neighborhood/area, two white guys dressed exactly the same in the exact same situation, two women instead of men, etc etc. It's pretty simple actually, you shouldn't be that bothered by the question of whether you're racist or not; the possibility of the answer being "yes" is whats actually troubling you. Don't mix the two up and make it more difficult for yourself. | ||
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enzym
Germany1034 Posts
On June 05 2010 20:33 Sadistx wrote: yes it is. any kind of stereotyping is discrimination. any kind of judgement you reach based on appearance, in this case color of skin, is racism. after all the colour of skin has nothing to do with the character of a person. even if 99% of black people were living in unforgiving, lawless ghettos it would still be racism to treat them all as if they disregard laws until you confirmed the history or character of that one individual you are dealing with.You should look up what racism actually means, as should everyone in this thread. Stereotyping people by the color of their skin, based on the available data isn't racism. [...] | ||
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