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djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
June 05 2010 18:48 GMT
#101
I wouldn't call that racist, you were just thinking about your safety. I'd think anyone would feel potentially threatened if two shady looking men of any ethnicity were approaching in the dark.
trackd00r
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Chile284 Posts
June 05 2010 18:50 GMT
#102
That's not racism, that stereotype.
''They put signs, but I can't read''
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
June 05 2010 19:19 GMT
#103
Yes, it's racist. But it's not necessarily inaccurate. I'd do the same situation with in my old neighborhood.
FUCKING GAY LAGS
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
June 05 2010 19:24 GMT
#104
I have a very lax definition of what racism is, and that's not it. You were protecting your girl, it's understandable.
eddoo
Profile Joined March 2010
30 Posts
June 05 2010 20:23 GMT
#105
Racism in casual discourse means "discrimination based on race/ethnicity". In this situation the test to determine if you were racist would be if you would commit the same actions if the two persons were white or of another race. If the answer is yes then you were racist. Anyway, it's better to be safe than sorry.

Once I was walking home at 3am and saw 6 black dudes walking along. I had the urge to cross the street... but after checking that I had nothing on me, I decided to walk by them and see what was up. I had some fear since I knew somebody that got sucker punched and mugged by a black guy tying his shoe laces a week earlier. rofl. Well nothing happened, they just looked at me and I looked at them. I don't really recommend that action since it looked like they were trying to build up courage to mug me.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 21:10:47
June 05 2010 21:07 GMT
#106
It's not your extrovert actions that determine whether you are a racist or not. It doesn't really matter if you muster up the courage to walk past the black men in the street or not, your thought pattern is still the same.
It's your own "responsibility" to reflect over why you react the way you do. But it doesn't mean its fine just cause all black people are portrayed as muggers in media or because your girlfriend was raped by black men one year ago. By generalizing people based on past experiences or values you are essentially being a coward.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
NiteKat
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States146 Posts
June 05 2010 21:07 GMT
#107
It wasn't racist per say. You just profiled them which is an entirely natural thing to do. If we didn't profile situations we'd be in bad situations a lot more.

We profile naturally so that we can make quick decisions... is it possible those two black men were not going to attack/rob you two? Yes. However in cases of personal safety it's best to err on the side of caution. Your gut told you that the situation was not good so you got out of it quickly. Not racist at all.

I know that I have to be careful in my neighborhood for example. I've been jumped by three young black boys before. In my neighborhood I profile any group of young males no matter their color but especially black because of my experience. Does that make me racist? No I still treat black people when I meet them as if they were anyone else. Just when I'm walking in my neighborhood and a group of young males is nearby and have no reason to interact with me I put my guard up. Simple natural profiling for our own defense and survival.
enzym
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany1034 Posts
June 05 2010 21:10 GMT
#108
On June 06 2010 06:07 Shauni wrote:
It's not your extrovert actions that determine whether you are a racist or not. It doesn't really matter if you muster up the courage to walk past the black men in the street or not, your thought pattern is still the same.
It's your own "responsibility" to reflect over why you react the way you do. But it doesn't mean its fine just cause all black people are portrayed as muggers in media or because your girlfriend was raped by black men one year ago. By generalizing people on past experiences or values you are essentially being a coward.

that is true, and well formulated. but to be 100% on the save side you cannot avoid all prejudices.
"I fart a lot, often on my gf in bed, then we roll around laughing for 5 mins choking in gas." — exog // "…be'master, the art of reflection. If you are not a thinking man, to what purpose are you a man at all?" — S. T. Coleridge
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
June 05 2010 23:51 GMT
#109
On June 05 2010 20:55 Jibba wrote:
People are going to justify it based on the setting and clothes, but I'd be willing to bet if it were two white boys dressed like that, you would've been fine and then you would've laughed at how ridiculous they looked. Maybe you still would've been scared because of the time and setting, but it'd be less severe.


But if the black guys were dressed well, do you think he would have still been scared? I know I wouldn't.

People that present themselves in a threatening way deserve to be treated as threatening. Whether it's "racist" or not is pretty irrelevant, in my opinion.
SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
June 05 2010 23:58 GMT
#110
On June 06 2010 08:51 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 20:55 Jibba wrote:
People are going to justify it based on the setting and clothes, but I'd be willing to bet if it were two white boys dressed like that, you would've been fine and then you would've laughed at how ridiculous they looked. Maybe you still would've been scared because of the time and setting, but it'd be less severe.


But if the black guys were dressed well, do you think he would have still been scared? I know I wouldn't.

People that present themselves in a threatening way deserve to be treated as threatening. Whether it's "racist" or not is pretty irrelevant, in my opinion.


That's not the point.

4 scenarios:

1. Well dressed Asian guy approaches you at 2:00AM. You do not react.

2. Well dressed Black guy approaches you at 2:00AM. You do not react.

3. Poorly dressed Asian guy approaches you at 2:00AM. You do not react.

4. Poorly dressed Asian guy approaches you at 2:00AM. You react by crossing the street and looking behind you.

The point is, all other variables held constant, I, along with 95%+ of the population, are more likely to avoid the black guy than the Asian guy.
wsrgry
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 00:00:21
June 05 2010 23:59 GMT
#111
Eh, I wouldn't really say it's racist. You see two "ghetto looking" guys (regardless of color) walking around a little past midnight, it makes sense to be cautious.

Edit: and to the guy above, I have avoided Asian dudes in pretty much the same way when walking around at night Then again, I could just be in that 5%.
reza
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada213 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 02:19:33
June 06 2010 00:05 GMT
#112
bonk.
Sharkified
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-06 00:28:50
June 06 2010 00:27 GMT
#113
Racism is believing in the inequality of "races", you clearly are not racist.
I agree with what most people say here, it was a stereotype, and I would probably have done the same thing, with white ghetto looking guys also.
reza
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada213 Posts
June 06 2010 00:37 GMT
#114
ROFL and another thing if i see a group of intimidating or even ghetto looking Asians walking towards me ...i can't help but picture them pulling out keyboards and mouses trying to rob me ..sorry lol
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
June 06 2010 01:16 GMT
#115
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
June 06 2010 01:57 GMT
#116
"Well, why aren't you scared of asians?"

They're usually smaller and not dressed like thugs. Duh.
My strategy is to fork people.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
June 06 2010 02:07 GMT
#117
On June 06 2010 09:37 reza wrote:
ROFL and another thing if i see a group of intimidating or even ghetto looking Asians walking towards me ...i can't help but picture them pulling out keyboards and mouses trying to rob me ..sorry lol


I'm positive you would run even if you seen a 12 year old flip with a red bandana on his head. You talk like a coward lol.
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
reza
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada213 Posts
June 06 2010 02:19 GMT
#118
On June 06 2010 11:07 condoriano wrote:
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On June 06 2010 09:37 reza wrote:
ROFL and another thing if i see a group of intimidating or even ghetto looking Asians walking towards me ...i can't help but picture them pulling out keyboards and mouses trying to rob me ..sorry lol


I'm positive you would run even if you seen a 12 year old flip with a red bandana on his head. You talk like a coward lol.


I wouldn't run from anyone wearing a 'red' bandana buddy.You don't even know me kid just shutup before you make yourself sound stupid.
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
June 06 2010 03:00 GMT
#119
i watch my back in any ghetto area.

im not worried about skin colour. im worried about scary looking people..

you can be white, "yellow", "brown", w/e but if you look like you might start trouble, im gonna avoid you if im with my girl. simple as that

its not racist, its called "better safe than sorry"
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
June 06 2010 03:06 GMT
#120
On June 06 2010 08:58 SoManyDeadLings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 08:51 matjlav wrote:
On June 05 2010 20:55 Jibba wrote:
People are going to justify it based on the setting and clothes, but I'd be willing to bet if it were two white boys dressed like that, you would've been fine and then you would've laughed at how ridiculous they looked. Maybe you still would've been scared because of the time and setting, but it'd be less severe.


But if the black guys were dressed well, do you think he would have still been scared? I know I wouldn't.

People that present themselves in a threatening way deserve to be treated as threatening. Whether it's "racist" or not is pretty irrelevant, in my opinion.


That's not the point.

4 scenarios:

1. Well dressed Asian guy approaches you at 2:00AM. You do not react.

2. Well dressed Black guy approaches you at 2:00AM. You do not react.

3. Poorly dressed Asian guy approaches you at 2:00AM. You do not react.

4. Poorly dressed Asian guy approaches you at 2:00AM. You react by crossing the street and looking behind you.

The point is, all other variables held constant, I, along with 95%+ of the population, are more likely to avoid the black guy than the Asian guy.


That's true, but my point is that I would never feel guilty about avoiding anyone that's intentionally presenting themselves in such a way as to make me feel nervous.
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