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Terakin
Profile Joined March 2008
Jamaica22 Posts
June 05 2010 07:11 GMT
#21
Was it racist? Just a little. But your actions may have prevented a bad situation from happening. I am a black man, and I do think how we carry ourselves sends a message to the world about who we are.

In other words, we turn on the TV, and 95% of the black males getting into trouble with the law are all dressed identical to each other. We see a random guy dressed the same way in a dark ally, what else are we to think?
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
June 05 2010 07:14 GMT
#22
On June 05 2010 16:07 ArvickHero wrote:
I'm going to suppose that these black men were dressed in a ghetto fashion also? Your reaction is understandable if they were, I would have a certain aversion and suspicion if they were dressed in such a manner.

Which brings me to think, why do people even dress like that :l


social norms.

just let it go, at best you prevented theft / assault, and at worst you put a damper on two young guys' companionly stroll at night.
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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
June 05 2010 07:17 GMT
#23
Of course its racist, its also not relevant whether or not it is.

It was the right decision to make. Thats all that ever matters.
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RandomAbuse
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
187 Posts
June 05 2010 07:17 GMT
#24
On June 05 2010 15:38 Mortician wrote:
It's not racism, I (and probably you) would have turned away even if they were white. The thought of walking in the middle of the night in such a neightbourhood is scary, and (i think) you would have turned away if you saw two white people or asian or w/e. It is just scary, nothing to do with skin color

EDIT: Damn it, 2 people said it just before i did


This, I think is a pretty normal reaction. It is like how we sense a probable danger and just reacted to prevent something bad from happening.

I don't think it is racist at all.
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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
June 05 2010 07:19 GMT
#25
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Squallcloud
Profile Joined February 2008
France466 Posts
June 05 2010 07:23 GMT
#26
It was two ghetto looking guys not racist at all, i would think twice before crossing path with a ghetto looking person at night.
If it was two black guys in a smoking well it's racist no doubt. :D
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Ramsing
Profile Joined July 2007
Canada233 Posts
June 05 2010 07:25 GMT
#27
If you would have done differently if you had seen those two men approaching you with the same clothes on but were a diff. skin color, then yeah that would be racist. If not though, you were just doing what any logical person would do.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
June 05 2010 07:25 GMT
#28
honestly I'd care less about racism and more about the fact I potentially saved two lives (or two pairs of shoes), one of which is my own.
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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 05 2010 07:50 GMT
#29
Yes that is racist.
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
June 05 2010 08:00 GMT
#30
I appreciate your thoughtfulness about the issue. I think that most people don't consider themselves to be preudice, but then when then they still make a whole lot of judgements based on things like skin color, socioeconomic position, etc.

In that situation, safety comes first. If you are in a not nice neighborhood it is good to be cautious. However, it would be worthwhile to think about how can engage more regularly of people of different ethnic background, because really the biggest thing is just exposure. The more people of other backgrounds you know, the more comfortable to you become.
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
June 05 2010 08:03 GMT
#31
It's not racist. You were simply intimidated. As a human, you have two options: fight or flight. As a man, it's often better to choose the "fight" option, which means you have more confidence in yourself and that you're not afraid of being intimidated. But then you also have the idea that you should protect your girlfriend from intimidating things, so I suppose flight was an option. Really, though, I would've just opened the car door and made sure my girl drove off safely. The dudes were walking. What could they possibly do against a car?
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
June 05 2010 08:08 GMT
#32
On June 05 2010 15:58 phosphorylation wrote:
people, dont try to evade the issue
if i had to choose between two ghetto looking white guys and two ghetto looking black guys, i would still go with the former for my safety's sake
this is racism, by definition, yes
but racism, as i said before, is not as bad as PC people make it out to be
it's a survival instinct
not giving an individual a chance based on his race, however, is a different story


Call me racist, but I'd rather the two ghetto looking guys be black. I'm white, fyi. The reason for this is because I think "ghetto looking white guys" feel like they have more to prove and they're generally more hostile as a result.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
June 05 2010 08:16 GMT
#33
you shouldn't ever be scared of someone b/c they are black
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
June 05 2010 08:16 GMT
#34
On June 05 2010 17:08 hp.Shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 15:58 phosphorylation wrote:
people, dont try to evade the issue
if i had to choose between two ghetto looking white guys and two ghetto looking black guys, i would still go with the former for my safety's sake
this is racism, by definition, yes
but racism, as i said before, is not as bad as PC people make it out to be
it's a survival instinct
not giving an individual a chance based on his race, however, is a different story


Call me racist, but I'd rather the two ghetto looking guys be black. I'm white, fyi. The reason for this is because I think "ghetto looking white guys" feel like they have more to prove and they're generally more hostile as a result.


that's fine
we are both being racists and we have our reasons to
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eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
June 05 2010 08:20 GMT
#35
i think shifty looking people scare us in general. i remember one night when we were partying in a tennis court (lol) and some shifty drug dealer white guy called one of our friends a slut, and my friend was going to kick his ass, but i held him back cause he could have a knife or some coward stuff (censored).
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stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 08:42:40
June 05 2010 08:35 GMT
#36
Well i don't think it's racist, if they were two elderly black folk in broad daylight would you have done the same?

With this thought process we can use the process of elimination to find out why you made that decision.

my guess to your reasons are this:

[x] 12:30 at night
[x] ghetto neighborhood
[ ] their skin colour


anywaym, if it is racist then that's a good thing, because you clearly made a smart decision.
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DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
June 05 2010 08:45 GMT
#37
yes , you are a superrascist , nah just kidding ur cool bro
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Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
June 05 2010 08:49 GMT
#38

Let me ask you this. If the two black guys were dressed in business suits and ties and were skinny would you have done the same? What if it were two (white) bikers built like tanks and covered in tatoos.

You might think that your actions were based on race, but often it's the size of the person and how they're dressed that triggers the survival instinct.

I wouldn't feel so bad about it.

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Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
June 05 2010 08:53 GMT
#39
Nah, not racist.

Bad neighborhood, late at night, and 2 ghetto guys...I'd get the hell out of there, whether they were white, black, mexican, etc. The way they're dressed and their demeanor matters, not their skin color ^^
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 09:14:38
June 05 2010 09:14 GMT
#40
I take it you're not African American yourself, no?

And... love the post about "As a man, it's often better to choose the "fight" option..."

Ya, you do that bro, start mad doggin 2 guys by yourself at night in the ghetto. Fantastic strat.
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