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Spider Mines, Burrowed Zerglings, and Observers

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zeratultassadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia30 Posts
May 02 2010 00:45 GMT
#1
So I'm really pissed off. Today I played a TvP where I did the usual terran ball push. I had about 5 tanks, 9 vultures and 5 marines. The toss had expanded and put 2 cannons in his expo but I killed that and went on to destroy all his gateways, pylons, nexus, and all his probes...or so I thought. As I was killing his nexus, we had the following conversation:

ME: "lol good game man, u need to work on ur defense"
OPPONENT: "i know, i rly suck against tanks"
ME: "lol do u have any other buildings or something?"
OPPONENT: "maybe...u need to scout hehe"

So I search bottom right before looking at top left, where he apparently already has about 5 cannons, 4 gateways, citadel, templar archives, 2 stargates and a fleet beacon.

I move my forces up as fast as I can, but in a moment of inattention, my vultures die to dark templar and my tanks die to his speed upgraded zealots. I expo, lay down 2 more factories, and macro tanks and goliaths as fast I can. Not having expected the hidden base and the switch to carriers, I start the goliath missile range upgrade.

But somehow, no matter what I do, I can't win any of the battles. His carriers, zealots, goons, dark templar and templar+storm combo crushes my tank and goliath armies every time. It didn't help that I'm d- and my opponent was at least c.

...
So anyway, it seems pretty clear to me I would have won if I just could have laid a mine at every possible expo location.

Therefore, I think just laying down a mine (as terran), burrowing a ling (as zerg) or putting an observer (as toss) at expo spots is worth the investment. It helps to avoid unexpected surprises

Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
May 02 2010 00:48 GMT
#2
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Scouting for expos at all times is key during later stages of the game..in my d- days I thought i had raped this toss on destination with a rush, but he had secretly expanded to the right side
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dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
May 02 2010 01:02 GMT
#3
A C player doesn't happen to have a hidden base with 4 gateways 2 stargates and 5 cannons while having his other bases being killed

But scouting is vital in any MU and just occasionally scan/put mines/put scvs/put vultures at possible expansion spots
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 02 2010 01:46 GMT
#4
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GeMicles
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada307 Posts
May 02 2010 02:01 GMT
#5
you offensive gg'ed. dont EVER do that unless you want to get raped by hidden shit on the map. dont ever let your guard down until you see on the bottom left of the screen: ....has left the game, you won 100 points new rating ...

and a c player not defending his expos while having a small little clump of production facilities hidden? how did he get to c? and how did you almost beat a c as a d- for that matter?
i pikachu in the shower
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 02:24:35
May 02 2010 02:22 GMT
#6
On May 02 2010 10:02 dhe95 wrote:
A C player doesn't happen to have a hidden base with 4 gateways 2 stargates and 5 cannons while having his other bases being killed

But scouting is vital in any MU and just occasionally scan/put mines/put scvs/put vultures at possible expansion spots

Yeah... It sounds like he crushed his main with barely any resistance. If he is a C player and you are D- did you really think that would have happened if he didn't expand like that and added more gateways in his main?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
May 02 2010 02:39 GMT
#7
The C player obviously just screwed around.
A games never over until he leaves.
And mines or obs are well obvious
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