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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
April 28 2010 23:04 GMT
#21
It's not just about the engineering program, or the reputation. Any university you go to will give you a very good education, and any Canadian university has a good reputation.

Look at other things. Think about anything to do with other things offered at the school (clubs, elective courses, competitions, etc). Look at the location, and all the things to do in your spare time that are nearby. Look at housing opportunities, and find something that you can live with comfortably.

I came to the U of Ottawa because I felt like the program, the school, and the location were a perfect fit for me. That doesn't mean that the same would be true for you though.

The workload can be pretty brutal some weeks, but overall, it's not bad, so don't let that be a deterrent.

I've been to both the McGill and UofT campuses. McGill is definitely better than UofT in that department (at least, imo). However, UofT definitely has some perks that McGill can't offer, and vice versa. It's up to you, but regardless of which you choose, you won't regret it.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
April 29 2010 02:05 GMT
#22
I feel the two universities are about even. Your success during your universities years (as well as beyond that) depends on how hard you work in the university, NOT on which school you go to.
:]
Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 02:25:55
April 29 2010 02:24 GMT
#23
On April 29 2010 06:57 emperorchampion wrote:
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On April 29 2010 06:48 Koltz wrote:
Engineering?

UW is way more recognized for engineering, and we got an awesome co-op system. Lots of SC players here too....

Now that I think of it, don't come here


Any reasons in particular- or just general suckage?


Its really hard. They make you do LOTS of work, and the marks are really hard to earn. If you understand stuff front-to-back you'll do well, but if you dont intend on doing lots of practise problems and reading over notes frequently, and attending every single lecture/tutorial/lab you won't do as well as you would do in other schools.

Not much diversity in culture (majority are asians, so much that english almost becomes the minority language).

The campus is quite bland, better than UFT, worse than mcgills. In the summer its kinda cute, theres geese everywhere and trees, and benches, and chipmunks can come up to you and make you feel all nice and cuddly inside before you go to write an exam that you will inevitably THINK you did amazing on but probably only average.

I mean, Waterloo is an amazing school, the co-op opportunities are amazing, you get so much experience AND money on the side, once you graduate you WILL be set. You can even do co-op opportunities in other countries. I have sisters that went to Waterloo, one for architecture, one for biochem. They worked, on co-op, in san francisco, london england, iceland, and rome, on seperate work terms.

Thats not to mention that UW is an engineering school at heart, there are a lot more job opportunities for engineers, and employers LOVE waterloo co-op students.

Right now, im a current undergrad, in the mathematics faculty.
Jerebread
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada115 Posts
April 29 2010 02:35 GMT
#24
Waterloo for the co-op. I currently go to UofT, and you only get a 'professional experience year', which means time off school.

At Waterloo, you finish in 5 years, but as long as you're not retarded, the 4 terms of co-op experience will greatly help you get a job after you graduate.

UofT = grad in 4 years, 1 year of coop exp.
Waterloo = grad in 5, 4 potential different companies

GL
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 04:02:38
April 29 2010 03:59 GMT
#25
There are 6 co-op terms in UW Engineering. If you're not in programs that have 8 month co-op terms, that would be 6 different potential work experiences.

EDIT: Waterloo is awesome. (Incredibly boring, having friends really helps.)
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AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
April 29 2010 04:04 GMT
#26
McGill has HORRIBLE profs for lectures, but in return the exams are considerably easier than UofT, so if you want to go to grad school with a high gpa, mcgill is your choice.
Most of my friends are in McGill engineering, and their general consensus is that the lectures are unbearable/taught by people who can't teach, but most people I know get good grades.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25995 Posts
April 29 2010 04:05 GMT
#27
On April 29 2010 11:35 Jerebread wrote:
Waterloo for the co-op. I currently go to UofT, and you only get a 'professional experience year', which means time off school.

At Waterloo, you finish in 5 years, but as long as you're not retarded, the 4 terms of co-op experience will greatly help you get a job after you graduate.

UofT = grad in 4 years, 1 year of coop exp.
Waterloo = grad in 5, 4 potential different companies

GL

Waterloo is fucking garb the biggest piece of advice I can give you if you want to have a well-rounded life is DO NOT GO TO WATERLOO ENGINEERING.
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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
April 29 2010 05:46 GMT
#28
On April 29 2010 13:05 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 11:35 Jerebread wrote:
Waterloo for the co-op. I currently go to UofT, and you only get a 'professional experience year', which means time off school.

At Waterloo, you finish in 5 years, but as long as you're not retarded, the 4 terms of co-op experience will greatly help you get a job after you graduate.

UofT = grad in 4 years, 1 year of coop exp.
Waterloo = grad in 5, 4 potential different companies

GL

Waterloo is fucking garb the biggest piece of advice I can give you if you want to have a well-rounded life is DO NOT GO TO WATERLOO ENGINEERING.


On the other hand, Blizzard will visit (or visited? I forgot) Waterloo for potential employees (not UofT nor McGill). So think about that, too
:]
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
April 29 2010 06:10 GMT
#29
anyone is/was studying business?

or is this an engineer sausage fest
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 29 2010 16:41 GMT
#30
On April 29 2010 07:22 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
Well part of the decision should be location to you (not to close, not too far . I dislike U of T becasue it's so spread out (although I don't know about engineering buildings), but both are located in awesome cities. I think you want to look at what specializations they offer as well..


Well, see I really dislike Alberta so my goal is to get as far away as possible for now. In terms of specializations my goal is to go into Civil Engineering, Majoring in Structural with a possible Minor in Envirionmental.

In terms of work habits I think I'm pretty good. I've learned a lot about hard work over the past year working full time. I'm no where close to a genius, but I plan on attending every class (well I say that now...), so I'm pretty sure I'll do go good.

On April 29 2010 07:28 danl9rm wrote:
can't beat american schools


Can't get pay for or get accepted to American schools . That said I'm still on the Waitinglist to Notre Dame.

On April 29 2010 13:05 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 11:35 Jerebread wrote:
Waterloo for the co-op. I currently go to UofT, and you only get a 'professional experience year', which means time off school.

At Waterloo, you finish in 5 years, but as long as you're not retarded, the 4 terms of co-op experience will greatly help you get a job after you graduate.

UofT = grad in 4 years, 1 year of coop exp.
Waterloo = grad in 5, 4 potential different companies

GL

Waterloo is fucking garb the biggest piece of advice I can give you if you want to have a well-rounded life is DO NOT GO TO WATERLOO ENGINEERING.


Yeah, I kinda realized that a few weeks ago. I was never to hot on Waterloo, and besides I've been living in a town of 12 000 for the last 4 years- I need a change, not another small area.

On April 29 2010 15:10 intrudor wrote:
anyone is/was studying business?

or is this an engineer sausage fest


Well, I am going into Engineering so I asked about that, but if you have any questions about buisness then I'm sure they can be answered. A lot of this is general as well, such as campus life, girls, ect.

Thanks for all the replies, I'm pretty much 99% going to McGill. I'll wear my Hwaseung long sleeve for like the first few days, so if you see one say hi!
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JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
April 29 2010 17:19 GMT
#31
Honestly McGill and UofT are both good schools. Montreal and Toronto are both pretty cool, although in the winter Montreal is WAY colder (and the hills are fucking steep as fuck).

I go to Waterloo and I like it here (the city and the campus), and the co-op system is great. But it sounds like you're already set on one of the other two. Waterloo isn't THAT small, especially since it's essentially merged with Kitchener for a population of about 300k.

If you want a lifestyle change consider McGill. If you want to play it safe and go to a good, solid university in a nice city go to Toronto. McGill has crud tons of hipsters and Toronto has crud tons of Asians. Also housing in Montreal is cheaper than in Toronto.

McGill has a great party life too.
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