• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:35
CEST 16:35
KST 23:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27
Community News
Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1
StarCraft 2
General
Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing How herO can make history in the Code S S2 finals Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey. Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2) Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Best crypto recovery experts in the world Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 32552 users

McGill vs UToronto - Page 2

Blogs > emperorchampion
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
April 28 2010 23:04 GMT
#21
It's not just about the engineering program, or the reputation. Any university you go to will give you a very good education, and any Canadian university has a good reputation.

Look at other things. Think about anything to do with other things offered at the school (clubs, elective courses, competitions, etc). Look at the location, and all the things to do in your spare time that are nearby. Look at housing opportunities, and find something that you can live with comfortably.

I came to the U of Ottawa because I felt like the program, the school, and the location were a perfect fit for me. That doesn't mean that the same would be true for you though.

The workload can be pretty brutal some weeks, but overall, it's not bad, so don't let that be a deterrent.

I've been to both the McGill and UofT campuses. McGill is definitely better than UofT in that department (at least, imo). However, UofT definitely has some perks that McGill can't offer, and vice versa. It's up to you, but regardless of which you choose, you won't regret it.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
April 29 2010 02:05 GMT
#22
I feel the two universities are about even. Your success during your universities years (as well as beyond that) depends on how hard you work in the university, NOT on which school you go to.
:]
Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 02:25:55
April 29 2010 02:24 GMT
#23
On April 29 2010 06:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 06:48 Koltz wrote:
Engineering?

UW is way more recognized for engineering, and we got an awesome co-op system. Lots of SC players here too....

Now that I think of it, don't come here


Any reasons in particular- or just general suckage?


Its really hard. They make you do LOTS of work, and the marks are really hard to earn. If you understand stuff front-to-back you'll do well, but if you dont intend on doing lots of practise problems and reading over notes frequently, and attending every single lecture/tutorial/lab you won't do as well as you would do in other schools.

Not much diversity in culture (majority are asians, so much that english almost becomes the minority language).

The campus is quite bland, better than UFT, worse than mcgills. In the summer its kinda cute, theres geese everywhere and trees, and benches, and chipmunks can come up to you and make you feel all nice and cuddly inside before you go to write an exam that you will inevitably THINK you did amazing on but probably only average.

I mean, Waterloo is an amazing school, the co-op opportunities are amazing, you get so much experience AND money on the side, once you graduate you WILL be set. You can even do co-op opportunities in other countries. I have sisters that went to Waterloo, one for architecture, one for biochem. They worked, on co-op, in san francisco, london england, iceland, and rome, on seperate work terms.

Thats not to mention that UW is an engineering school at heart, there are a lot more job opportunities for engineers, and employers LOVE waterloo co-op students.

Right now, im a current undergrad, in the mathematics faculty.
Jerebread
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada115 Posts
April 29 2010 02:35 GMT
#24
Waterloo for the co-op. I currently go to UofT, and you only get a 'professional experience year', which means time off school.

At Waterloo, you finish in 5 years, but as long as you're not retarded, the 4 terms of co-op experience will greatly help you get a job after you graduate.

UofT = grad in 4 years, 1 year of coop exp.
Waterloo = grad in 5, 4 potential different companies

GL
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-29 04:02:38
April 29 2010 03:59 GMT
#25
There are 6 co-op terms in UW Engineering. If you're not in programs that have 8 month co-op terms, that would be 6 different potential work experiences.

EDIT: Waterloo is awesome. (Incredibly boring, having friends really helps.)
Soli Deo gloria.
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
April 29 2010 04:04 GMT
#26
McGill has HORRIBLE profs for lectures, but in return the exams are considerably easier than UofT, so if you want to go to grad school with a high gpa, mcgill is your choice.
Most of my friends are in McGill engineering, and their general consensus is that the lectures are unbearable/taught by people who can't teach, but most people I know get good grades.
We spend our youth attaining wealth, and our wealth attaining youth.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
April 29 2010 04:05 GMT
#27
On April 29 2010 11:35 Jerebread wrote:
Waterloo for the co-op. I currently go to UofT, and you only get a 'professional experience year', which means time off school.

At Waterloo, you finish in 5 years, but as long as you're not retarded, the 4 terms of co-op experience will greatly help you get a job after you graduate.

UofT = grad in 4 years, 1 year of coop exp.
Waterloo = grad in 5, 4 potential different companies

GL

Waterloo is fucking garb the biggest piece of advice I can give you if you want to have a well-rounded life is DO NOT GO TO WATERLOO ENGINEERING.
Moderator
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
April 29 2010 05:46 GMT
#28
On April 29 2010 13:05 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 11:35 Jerebread wrote:
Waterloo for the co-op. I currently go to UofT, and you only get a 'professional experience year', which means time off school.

At Waterloo, you finish in 5 years, but as long as you're not retarded, the 4 terms of co-op experience will greatly help you get a job after you graduate.

UofT = grad in 4 years, 1 year of coop exp.
Waterloo = grad in 5, 4 potential different companies

GL

Waterloo is fucking garb the biggest piece of advice I can give you if you want to have a well-rounded life is DO NOT GO TO WATERLOO ENGINEERING.


On the other hand, Blizzard will visit (or visited? I forgot) Waterloo for potential employees (not UofT nor McGill). So think about that, too
:]
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
April 29 2010 06:10 GMT
#29
anyone is/was studying business?

or is this an engineer sausage fest
USER MIGHT BE WARNED FOR THIS COMMENT
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 29 2010 16:41 GMT
#30
On April 29 2010 07:22 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
Well part of the decision should be location to you (not to close, not too far . I dislike U of T becasue it's so spread out (although I don't know about engineering buildings), but both are located in awesome cities. I think you want to look at what specializations they offer as well..


Well, see I really dislike Alberta so my goal is to get as far away as possible for now. In terms of specializations my goal is to go into Civil Engineering, Majoring in Structural with a possible Minor in Envirionmental.

In terms of work habits I think I'm pretty good. I've learned a lot about hard work over the past year working full time. I'm no where close to a genius, but I plan on attending every class (well I say that now...), so I'm pretty sure I'll do go good.

On April 29 2010 07:28 danl9rm wrote:
can't beat american schools


Can't get pay for or get accepted to American schools . That said I'm still on the Waitinglist to Notre Dame.

On April 29 2010 13:05 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2010 11:35 Jerebread wrote:
Waterloo for the co-op. I currently go to UofT, and you only get a 'professional experience year', which means time off school.

At Waterloo, you finish in 5 years, but as long as you're not retarded, the 4 terms of co-op experience will greatly help you get a job after you graduate.

UofT = grad in 4 years, 1 year of coop exp.
Waterloo = grad in 5, 4 potential different companies

GL

Waterloo is fucking garb the biggest piece of advice I can give you if you want to have a well-rounded life is DO NOT GO TO WATERLOO ENGINEERING.


Yeah, I kinda realized that a few weeks ago. I was never to hot on Waterloo, and besides I've been living in a town of 12 000 for the last 4 years- I need a change, not another small area.

On April 29 2010 15:10 intrudor wrote:
anyone is/was studying business?

or is this an engineer sausage fest


Well, I am going into Engineering so I asked about that, but if you have any questions about buisness then I'm sure they can be answered. A lot of this is general as well, such as campus life, girls, ect.

Thanks for all the replies, I'm pretty much 99% going to McGill. I'll wear my Hwaseung long sleeve for like the first few days, so if you see one say hi!
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
April 29 2010 17:19 GMT
#31
Honestly McGill and UofT are both good schools. Montreal and Toronto are both pretty cool, although in the winter Montreal is WAY colder (and the hills are fucking steep as fuck).

I go to Waterloo and I like it here (the city and the campus), and the co-op system is great. But it sounds like you're already set on one of the other two. Waterloo isn't THAT small, especially since it's essentially merged with Kitchener for a population of about 300k.

If you want a lifestyle change consider McGill. If you want to play it safe and go to a good, solid university in a nice city go to Toronto. McGill has crud tons of hipsters and Toronto has crud tons of Asians. Also housing in Montreal is cheaper than in Toronto.

McGill has a great party life too.
Dance dance dance 'till we run this town!
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .333
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 34365
Calm 7907
Rain 4825
Horang2 1822
EffOrt 1196
Stork 641
BeSt 294
PianO 277
Last 107
hero 98
[ Show more ]
Pusan 91
Hyun 90
sSak 86
Sea.KH 79
Shinee 65
ToSsGirL 29
Killer 28
Movie 28
Aegong 24
IntoTheRainbow 14
Terrorterran 12
Noble 10
SilentControl 8
Hm[arnc] 5
ivOry 5
Dota 2
Gorgc2970
qojqva2858
XcaliburYe368
LuMiX0
League of Legends
Dendi3100
Counter-Strike
fl0m860
allub342
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King130
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor577
Other Games
singsing2249
B2W.Neo1849
crisheroes560
C9.Mang0483
Happy369
Fuzer 239
Beastyqt137
KnowMe89
RotterdaM80
Rex33
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream13221
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 84
• maralekos13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Rasowy 10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3226
• WagamamaTV525
League of Legends
• Jankos3641
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Qualifier
1h 26m
BSL: ProLeague
3h 26m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Cross vs Doodle
MadiNho vs Dragon
Replay Cast
9h 26m
Wardi Open
20h 26m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 19h
RSL Revival
1d 19h
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
Circuito Brasileiro de…
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-11
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.