EPTSorry to bump, but i want to hear your reasoning for this. If it's girls saying they do then lol.
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The_Australian
Australia458 Posts
Sorry to bump, but i want to hear your reasoning for this. If it's girls saying they do then lol. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On April 14 2010 16:34 The_Australian wrote: Sorry to bump, but i want to hear your reasoning for this. If it's girls saying they do then lol. a certain level of looks will generally put you into a category capable of getting girls in a certain range, though game dictates just how high up on the range you can peg and of course money can overtake both, if u think that counts lol | ||
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TabyLing
Australia69 Posts
An ugly guy has to be outstanding in another area, personality, charisma, ability to be witty, outgoing, etc etc to get anywhere. This is sadly the world we live in.. Personality counts for alot but if you fail to even initiate conversation because of the way you look and portray yourself then its not going to get you far.. Looks matter less when two people are very close and know each other for a long time but in the world of clubs and new relationships looks count for alot... This just doesn’t fall on just one end of the spectrum a good looking girl is what alot of guys want and fantasize about, if it didnt matter girls wouldnt wear makeup or dress nice and just let hair grow everywhere  People get attracted to features that other people actually do plastic surgery to get there is a general consensus on what looks good and what doesnt. and what happens when someone does look good for the lucky people that do, it acts as a point of magnetic attraction to the opposite sex. good looks brings confidence in a person and alot of ugly people do things like plastic surgery to get confidence in themselves for this reason. so looks have to matter to some degreee they cannot just not matter at all. | ||
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MourningWould
United States110 Posts
imo, intelligence is pretty much the most essential skill to have in modern society. Looks can be changed (makeover, clothes, hairstyle, plastic surgery), physical strength doesn't matter anymore. If you roll a shitty intelligence value, you're pretty much fucked in society, even as a girl imo. | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
Remind her that her boyfriend is a thing of the past and that she has you now. Since you are young this will be a good lesson no matter what the outcome is. | ||
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The_Australian
Australia458 Posts
a certain level of looks will generally put you into a category capable of getting girls in a certain range I'm speaking generally about girls here, and largly from my own (relatively limited compared to you i'm sure) experience. I wont argue that there isn't a certain niche of girls that get turned on by looks, just like girls who like bears or nerds for whatever reason, but i strongly believe that genetic looks dont do anything. I think, as other's have already mentioned, that grooming is important because of the obvious things it communicates, but genetic looks? I wouldnt say that that puts you in any league. game dictates just how high up on the range you can peg Agree as a stand alone comment and of course money can overtake both, if u think that counts lol Curious about this. Yeah i don't. I really don't. like genetic looks, i think that money means shit. Girls can provide for themselves mostly nowerdays, they dont need money (doesn't mean they wont take it) but from what i've seen (myself and people i know) you end up being a provider rather then someone who the girl feels raw attraction to. It is derailing the thread, sorry to the OP for that, but i find this topic really interesting. Again i'm going by my own experience so take what i say with a grain of salt and do whatever works for you. That system of thinking just doesn't really register for me... | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
if look at every 10/10 girl in the world, the vast majority of them will have good looking boyfriends, or really rich boyfriends, and usually both. not often will they be dating a mediocre guy with a mediocre life style but an 'amazing' personality. | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
On April 15 2010 08:48 CharlieMurphy wrote: Whatever you do, don't be her confidant for boyfriend related bullshit. Don't listen to her sob story, just console her that it is in the past and there are plenty of better people blah blah. Every time she brings him up just look annoyed and give her some generic shit like that. Make your motives clear. You are on the verge of being friend zoned if not already. Good Luck to you He's already been friend zoned. She would've slept with him by now (assuming she isn't hardcore religious) if they were making out like he said they were and if she were attracted to him at all. | ||
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The_Australian
Australia458 Posts
On April 15 2010 04:08 Rekrul wrote: to say looks don't matter at all is nonsense if look at every 10/10 girl in the world, the vast majority of them will have good looking boyfriends, or really rich boyfriends, and usually both. not often will they be dating a mediocre guy with a mediocre life style but an 'amazing' personality. I could say that people with better looks get treated better by society and thus have a more positive look on the world + have more of a lack of insecurity, allowing them to pull these girls, rather then being the raw cause. I could also say that 50, 60 + year's ago looks meant shit, its only recently that people seem to think that it matters. How could girls (more importantly why would girls) evolve like that in such a short period of time? I've seen more hot girls date the guy with the amazing personality and life style then the lawyer or someone with looks. | ||
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TabyLing
Australia69 Posts
On April 15 2010 11:19 The_Australian wrote: I I've seen more hot girls date the guy with the amazing personality and life style then the lawyer or someone with looks. Are these guys actually completely ugly? An average looking guy with a great personality and awesome lifestyle is more attractive than hot guy with a terrible personality. Although a guy that a girl doesn't find at all physically attractive is worse off than a guy that isn't at all mentally attractive, at least you could sleep with the latter if nothing else (although if his personality was that bad you probably wouldn't), where you would just be friends with the former. If a guy is good looking or hot you want to get to know him just based off that, if he asks you out and you don't know anything else about him you will say yes because you want to get to know him, you will clear your schedule and want to make a good impression. If ends up having nothing but good looks then you wont be interested. Yet you will be more forgiving of bad traits than you would if he was just average looking. Of course you want someone who is both physically and mentally attractive, the mental attraction usually carries more weight and cant be 0, but the physical attraction can't be 0 either, you do usually want to sleep with the guy to want to be in a relationship. | ||
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The_Australian
Australia458 Posts
Are these guys actually completely ugly? An average looking guy with a great personality and awesome lifestyle is more attractive than hot guy with a terrible personality. I'd say slightly less then average to average. I agree with your second sentence. Although a guy that a girl doesn't find at all physically attractive is worse off than a guy that isn't at all mentally attractive, at least you could sleep with the latter if nothing else (although if his personality was that bad you probably wouldn't), where you would just be friends with the former. A girl that doesnt find a guy physically attractive will be because he did something or had a demeanor that she didnt find attractive, rather then his raw looks, girls really aren't that visual. A girl would never sleep with a guy based entirely on looks with zero interaction. Btw to further clarify by looks i mean raw genetics, i do think grooming/etc does make a difference. If a guy is good looking or hot you want to get to know him just based off that. I'm totally happy to admit i'm wrong to anything, so long as the other argument coincides with what i've seen personally in my own experience, but i just havn't seen a girl wanting to know a guy solely based on how hot he is. if he asks you out and you don't know anything else about him you will say yes because you want to get to know him, you will clear your schedule and want to make a good impression. If [he] ends up having nothing but good looks then you wont be interested. Yet you will be more forgiving of bad traits than you would if he was just average looking. Even if a girl does clear her schedule and is on best behavior for a "hot dude", if he has zero game he wont be able to get her into the sack, whats the point? If you threw 100 women at brad pitt (this example assumes he has no game) then he'll get laid 0 times. if you threw 100 women at Artosis, the result will still be 0. (i dont mean it Artosis! ILY!!!! baller terran ^___^) so neither has an advantage. i can see that people will disagree with this example, so perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree eventually. Onwards! The hot guy probably carries himself with more confidence, or is more assertive in his behavior. i've seen situations where the mediocre guy gets tons more interest from girls based just on that. i'm not accusing you of this, but be careful about applying your own standards to women, they value different things. ...If [he] ends up having nothing but good looks then you wont be interested. Yet you will be more forgiving of bad traits than you would if he was just average looking agree with first sentance, disagree with second. Its very hard to compare two situations, as they will never be the same. So we can't get a "hot" guy and a mediocre one and test what either one of us are saying, also, it depends on what you mean by "bad traits". If it's him being a prick, it wont matter to the girl on a sexual level, if its him being submissive or weak, then that's behavior she wont forgive regardless of genetic looks. Again, be carefull of applying your own standards to women. Of course you want someone who is both physically and mentally attractive, the mental attraction usually carries more weight and cant be 0, but the physical attraction can't be 0 either, you do usually want to sleep with the guy to want to be in a relationship. not sure how to respond to the first part of this because i dont really know what having 0 mental or physical attractiveness actually looks like, so sorry i cant adress that >.<. I agree with the last sentence, sex be important yo. EDIT: Probably should PM me if you give enough of a shit to continue because i'm pretty sure OP posted this a while ago and this is a pretty big derail. | ||
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
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TabyLing
Australia69 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Are these guys actually completely ugly? An average looking guy with a great personality and awesome lifestyle is more attractive than hot guy with a terrible personality. I'd say slightly less then average to average. I agree with your second sentence. Exactly, their average looking. Most guys are average looking and average looking guys are physically attractive, they aren't completely hideous. They have looks. + Show Spoiler + Although a guy that a girl doesn't find at all physically attractive is worse off than a guy that isn't at all mentally attractive, at least you could sleep with the latter if nothing else (although if his personality was that bad you probably wouldn't), where you would just be friends with the former. A girl that doesnt find a guy physically attractive will be because he did something or had a demeanor that she didnt find attractive, rather then his raw looks, girls really aren't that visual. A girl would never sleep with a guy based entirely on looks with zero interaction. Btw to further clarify by looks i mean raw genetics, i do think grooming/etc does make a difference. If you don't find a guy at all physically attractive you won't be interested in him, so what if he has a good personality, it's easy to find an average looking guy (that you do find physically attractive) with an equal or better personality. Without absolutely zero interaction of course you can't get to point of sleeping with someone, but if a guy is very hot, or even very good looking some girls will have sex with him after very little communication, this is apparent in clubs at the very least. + Show Spoiler + If a guy is good looking or hot you want to get to know him just based off that I'm totally happy to admit i'm wrong to anything, so long as the other argument coincides with what i've seen personally in my own experience, but i just havn't seen a girl wanting to know a guy solely based on how hot he is. mmm this is a little hard to explain I guess, if you see a really hot guy somewhere, your interested in him, you want to know if he has a good personality too, you want to talk to him. There is already some attraction there. + Show Spoiler + if he asks you out and you don't know anything else about him you will say yes because you want to get to know him, you will clear your schedule and want to make a good impression. If [he] ends up having nothing but good looks then you wont be interested. Yet you will be more forgiving of bad traits than you would if he was just average looking. Even if a girl does clear her schedule and is on best behavior for a "hot dude", if he has zero game he wont be able to get her into the sack, whats the point? If you threw 100 women at brad pitt (this example assumes he has no game) then he'll get laid 0 times. if you threw 100 women at Artosis, the result will still be 0. (i dont mean it Artosis! ILY!!!! baller terran ^___^) so neither has an advantage. i can see that people will disagree with this example, so perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree eventually. Onwards! The hot guy probably carries himself with more confidence, or is more assertive in his behavior. i've seen situations where the mediocre guy gets tons more interest from girls based just on that. i'm not accusing you of this, but be careful about applying your own standards to women, they value different things. In your example there you agree that looks matter. Although the example is a bad one, not every girl is attracted to the same thing, or turned off by the same thing. Not every girl will want to sleep with a guy she finds super hot, but not good personality, some do though, after all your not entering a relationship and sticking with them. If the looks are something that you really just don't find attractive you wont bother too much getting to know their fantastic personality, you know there are easily better looking guys out there with just as good personalities, you don't want a relationship with this guy, but maybe you like who they are as a person and want to be friends. + Show Spoiler + ...If [he] ends up having nothing but good looks then you wont be interested. Yet you will be more forgiving of bad traits than you would if he was just average looking agree with first sentance, disagree with second. Its very hard to compare two situations, as they will never be the same. So we can't get a "hot" guy and a mediocre one and test what either one of us are saying, also, it depends on what you mean by "bad traits". If it's him being a prick, it wont matter to the girl on a sexual level, if its him being submissive or weak, then that's behavior she wont forgive regardless of genetic looks. Again, be carefull of applying your own standards to women. By more forgiving I mean you wont hold so much weight to him doing something you dislike as you would an average looking or mediocre guy doing the same thing, you might let it slide. I gotta disagree with your submissive/weak thing making a guy completely unattractive, I think a complete prick is much less attractive than a guy who doesn't have a very dominant personality. Be careful when deciding absolutes, everyone is different and attracted to different traits in the personality. + Show Spoiler + Of course you want someone who is both physically and mentally attractive, the mental attraction usually carries more weight and cant be 0, but the physical attraction can't be 0 either, you do usually want to sleep with the guy to want to be in a relationship. not sure how to respond to the first part of this because i dont really know what having 0 mental or physical attractiveness actually looks like, so sorry i cant adress that >.<. I agree with the last sentence, sex be important yo. what i mean by mental attraction is being attracted to their personality and all things non-physical. Physical attraction is all physical traits. I address it in a general way as not all women are attracted to the same thing. To put it another way, the holy grail guy is a hot one with a stellar personality, personality always carries more weight but a guy still needs to be physically attractive. If the personality is good enough you can find things about the physical side attractive that you wouldn't normally, and a guy that you would normally see as average can be very good looking for you because of that, but that doesn't mean that looks means nothing, often the guy already has physical traits you find fine and liking the personality means you focus on the physical traits about them that you like, they don't have to be outstanding looking, they don't even have to be good looking, but they can't be hideous to you. Equally a guy can become less attractive physically if his personality is completely awful, and just really rubs you up the wrong way, but a mediocre -> average personality is acceptable and the guy is still super hot, you will still go for this, and look at the things you like in the personality. They might not be someone you want to have a long term meaningful relationship with, but you can still have fun. | ||
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
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