hmm this could actually be counterproductive because lots of computer -> high rate of infertility

but he is 27, and I don't think he's played as much games on the computer as we have

Too_MuchZerg

Finland2818 Posts

February 06 2010 17:49 GMT

#22

I am glad that your wife stopped using injections and such. Just wait few years and then think about adoption as option. For now try to enjoy your life with your wife as having good time as much as possible (fancy meals/movies/what she likes and I hope she does too) who knows maybe sudden pregnancy might happen.

enzym

Germany1034 Posts

February 06 2010 17:57 GMT

#23

On February 07 2010 02:41 Megalisk wrote:

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Maybe cause he wants a fucking kid.

maybe someone will find value in deep thought and will read it... so im going to leave it here.

http://mathialee.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/procreation_ethics/

On February 07 2010 00:54 Neo27 wrote:

i dont support your cause, but i do feel somewhat bad for you, because it doesnt seem like you have done anything to deserve to have that problem over any other person.

so my other thoughts on this are: you said you already went through changing your diet, to hormone therapy etc for your wife, so i would assume that you have a doctor that you can trust and talked this through with. didnt he also explain to you in detail other things you can do to increase the amount of healthy sperm you produce? you said yourself that some fitness activity would probably help (yes, overweight is a major sperm killer) but didnt your doc explain it to you in detail?
and the other thought i had was what about artificial insemination? that should make it possible to ignore problems like low sperm count.

adoption is another option, although it can be difficult to associate with that child and i wouldnt do it for other, personal reasons (dont need to discuss that now).
but it takes what is already there, improves the life of that kid and quite possible yours too, if you can make that cut and accept it as yours.

Inzek

Chile802 Posts

February 06 2010 18:06 GMT

#24

in theory.. cant u take an egg then fertilize it, and then put it mmm where it should be? that can be made right?

i dont want kids... but gl to you...

koreasilver

9109 Posts

February 06 2010 18:17 GMT

#25

On February 07 2010 02:57 enzym wrote:

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maybe someone will find value in deep thought and will read it... so im going to leave it here.

http://mathialee.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/procreation_ethics/

“If an action you took necessarily results (albeit indirectly) in the death of another person, is it ethical for you to take this action? “

The intutive answer that most people would give is “Of course it is UNETHICAL!”
Perhaps they would attach a condition, like ‘unless it’s for self-defense/to save many more lives/as a punishment for crime’ etc etc.

However, these people would have no qualms about the act of procreation.

Yet, Procreation is an Act which Necessarily results in the death of another Peson.

As soon as a person is conceived, the only certain event in his/her life is Death.

Anyone who takes this argument seriously is a dolt.

enzym

Germany1034 Posts

February 06 2010 18:20 GMT

#26

the article is very interesting for its comments. was a while back that i read it but have kept it since. not many people think about such things so thats some value there, and it wasnt exactly awfully written. so i was very happy to have it. o_o

andiCR

Costa Rica2273 Posts

February 06 2010 18:23 GMT

#27

Oh man. Thanks for posting this. I feel bad for you, and will pray for you and your wife. How long are you going to keep trying vs adopting a child?

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

February 06 2010 18:48 GMT

#28

That article was ridiculous actually.

Good luck to you and I hope everything works out. If it comes down to adopting a child, live with no regrets and love the child like it was your own. GL

koreasilver

9109 Posts

February 06 2010 18:50 GMT

#29

On February 07 2010 03:20 enzym wrote:
the article is very interesting for its comments. was a while back that i read it but have kept it since. not many people think about such things so thats some value there, and it wasnt exactly awfully written. so i was very happy to have it. o_o

Are you seriously going to say that the act of creation is meaningless simply because what is created will inevitably end? What is created holds more meaning than simply the value of physical existence itself. Don't pull this kind of existential nihilist bullshit into this thread.

I hope things work out for you, OP. You're still only 27. That's not even considered old at this time of age, and besides, this everything else is going alright for you. Just keep trying.

tiffany

3664 Posts

February 06 2010 19:43 GMT

#30

best of luck, don't lose hope! you're only 27, you have time

Sadistx

Zimbabwe5568 Posts

February 06 2010 19:59 GMT

#31

You could always adopt.

i dont understand why all the effort... in a world that is on top of that overpopulated too.

I agree completely.

udgnim

United States8024 Posts

February 06 2010 20:02 GMT

#32

read first few paragraphs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilisation

Duke

United States1106 Posts

February 06 2010 20:07 GMT

#33

my aunt and uncle had similar problems, so they adopted. about a year after, they had a successful pregnancy, and now they have two lovable girls. don't get too frustrated because you have time and you can always adopt as others have said

imDerek

United States1944 Posts

February 06 2010 20:12 GMT

#34

Good luck!

MiniRoman

Canada3953 Posts

February 06 2010 20:38 GMT

#35

At the very least its good her mood is no longer being controlled by the injections. Eventually the planets will align and it will come. You know it is possible and higher than 0% chance, keep banging and enjoy the days. I'd say adopt but I'm sure you've already thought about it and want your own baby with your wife. So just keep at it and hope.

OpticalShot

Canada6330 Posts

February 06 2010 20:44 GMT

#36

Best of luck~

IntoTheWow

is awesome32282 Posts

February 06 2010 20:45 GMT

#37

adoption : )

Neo27

United States154 Posts

February 07 2010 01:31 GMT

#38

On February 07 2010 03:23 never_toss wrote:
Oh man. Thanks for posting this. I feel bad for you, and will pray for you and your wife. How long are you going to keep trying vs adopting a child?

Probably six years or so. Like many have reminded me in this thread, I am young. It just doesn't feel like it sometimes, that's all. It helps to hear that there is plenty of time.

Part of the reason I feel behind is, when my father was my age, I was 7 and my brother was 6.

Neo27

United States154 Posts

February 07 2010 01:35 GMT

#39

On February 07 2010 02:46 Nal_rAwr wrote:

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hmm this could actually be counterproductive because lots of computer -> high rate of infertility

but he is 27, and I don't think he's played as much games on the computer as we have

Yeah seriously, not anymore. My prime time with games was the NES. That "real life" thing happens fast.