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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On January 13 2010 11:02 Faronel wrote: My Calc 3 teacher has been telling my class for years we would be able to do this. I never believed him... until now. I always counted on Calc 3 being the easiest. This semester should be cake right? calc 3, 2 electives and statics. Go engineers | ||
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
On January 13 2010 13:07 TheNearl wrote: You could have still solved it the same way given a step function and just ignore any negative results, and if it wasn't continuous, then you didn't even have to do calculus, so it sucks that you wasted all the brain power lolollol What? The values are optimized assuming a continuous function. It wasn't. Meaning Calculus was pretty useless at determining the precise answer (at least from my understanding of it.....). Explain plz. On January 13 2010 15:04 Hypnosis wrote: I always counted on Calc 3 being the easiest. This semester should be cake right? calc 3, 2 electives and statics. Go engineers I wish..... I honestly thought I had a good understanding on how to do everything in the class (at least enough to pass), and then the exam came..... Obviously I didn't do well enough on the exam to pass the course..... | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On January 13 2010 14:57 OpticalShot wrote: Can't help it, Engineering Science @ UT - it's more hell than one can imagine, and honestly, the people who survive and endure through this ridiculous program deserve to be considered superior human beings to others, lol. I'm not joking. The pace, depth, and the sheer amount of courses are just plain ridiculous. My engineer friend goes through phases where he kinda thinks like this, but its part of his overall misanthrope thing he does sometimes. Anyway you can't really say that people who go something grueling are superior to others who didn't do the same thing, you can just say they were superior to those who tried and failed ;p Kinda reminds me of my undergrad school where packaging majors were often looked down upon by engineers because a lot of engineering drop outs went into packaging. | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
On January 13 2010 14:57 OpticalShot wrote: Can't help it, Engineering Science @ UT - it's more hell than one can imagine, and honestly, the people who survive and endure through this ridiculous program deserve to be considered superior human beings to others, lol. I'm not joking. The pace, depth, and the sheer amount of courses are just plain ridiculous. What the hell man!? We just spent an entire thread explaining why this attitude is ridiculous. Also, I had a huge LOL at "it's not your fault it's not your fault" | ||
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
An excellent definition of an Engineer An Engineer is one who passes as an exacting expert on the strength of being able to turn out, with prolific fortitude, strings of incomprehensible formulae calculated with micrometric precision from extremely vague assumptions which are based on debatable figures acquired from inconclusive tests and incomplete experiments, carried out with instruments of problematic accuracy, by persons of doubtful reliable and rather dubious mentality with the particular anticipation of disconcerting and annoying everyone outside their own faculty. Without that kind of attitude, you cannot be an engineer  | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
On January 13 2010 15:53 lMPERVlOUS wrote: Ella - give him a break. It's all in his head. An excellent definition of an Engineer Without that kind of attitude, you cannot be an engineer Amen to that. If I didn't think anything else than engineering science was far inferior as an undergraduate program, I would have dropped out of engsci already and went into some other major. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
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imDerek
United States1944 Posts
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pubbanana
United States3063 Posts
So, if you're in any type of engineering program, congratulations: You are better than pubbanana.  | ||
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
On January 13 2010 18:23 pubbanana wrote: I used to hate engineering students because they always act like they're smarter and better than me. Then I realized that they are and I stopped caring. I go to community college, I major in German (both of my parents are German, my sister and I were raised in Suriname and grew up speaking German, so I thought it would be easy), and I quit the only job I ever held which was stacking jeans at Old Navy. So, if you're in any type of engineering program, congratulations: You are better than pubbanana. Dude, that's a piss poor view on it..... And, at one point, I had dropped out of high school, with no intentions on going back. Don't give up, man. If you want it, it's yours for the taking. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
I think the main problem with engineering degrees is that a lot of non mathematical persons enter those degrees since they adore the work engineers do instead of entering because they have particular talent in with the mediums engineers work in. Maths and physics degrees do not have the same kind of drop-out problem. | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
On January 13 2010 15:53 lMPERVlOUS wrote: Ella - give him a break. It's all in his head. An excellent definition of an Engineer Without that kind of attitude, you cannot be an engineer nah, but with that attitude, you can be a huge dink. you'll find in the real world, people have short tolerances for fresh grads who think they're big shit because they have a engineering degree (wow!!!!). everyone you work with will have an eng degree too. and most of them won't be douches, because they grew up and cambium what you wrote is typical bs | ||
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
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phase
United States399 Posts
On January 13 2010 23:00 Klockan3 wrote: Engineering is easy if you are smart. Most aren't smart and therefore think that it is hard. The smarter you are the easier the courses gets relative the soft sciences, it is even easier than those if you are high enough. Like, it is easier to double major in physics/maths than taking a lot of social science in between and just take one of those. I think the main problem with engineering degrees is that a lot of non mathematical persons enter those degrees since they adore the work engineers do instead of entering because they have particular talent in with the mediums engineers work in. Maths and physics degrees do not have the same kind of drop-out problem. Disagree on the whole being physically smart enough. Engineering is easy if you are a patient listener with an open mind to question what you are hearing and receive criticism yourself (and if you have good work ethic, although I think that that's just a plus). A lot of people would do well in engineering if they just open their ears and minds to the material a bit. Also, a very realistic reason why you are in engineering is because it's easier to find engineering jobs and because your median starting B.S. degree salary is like at least 10k higher than other majors. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4216 Posts
On January 13 2010 23:00 Klockan3 wrote: Engineering is easy if you are smart. Most aren't smart and therefore think that it is hard. The smarter you are the easier the courses gets relative the soft sciences, it is even easier than those if you are high enough. Like, it is easier to double major in physics/maths than taking a lot of social science in between and just take one of those. I think the main problem with engineering degrees is that a lot of non mathematical persons enter those degrees since they adore the work engineers do instead of entering because they have particular talent in with the mediums engineers work in. Maths and physics degrees do not have the same kind of drop-out problem. What? One of my good friends here is in pre-med. He's admitted that he couldn't do the classes I have. I can't do the biology courses that he takes. He is far smarter than I am..... He's got a very good chance of passing the MCAT. Heck, he's got a very good chance at doing very well on it. I would be surprised if he got turned down for med school. People are wired differently. That's what it comes down to. It's not about being "smarter"..... | ||
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sassy
240 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
On January 13 2010 15:35 ella_guru wrote: What the hell man!? We just spent an entire thread explaining why this attitude is ridiculous. Also, I had a huge LOL at "it's not your fault it's not your fault" Hahaha. The problem is people in soft degrees are very modest and will always say 'oh your degree is so much harder than mine.' It's devaluing to what we really gain in each of our specific paths which are leading to exactly where we personally want to go. "Hard" degrees are a lot of grinding, and a lot of studying, but I don't think they're literally difficult to obtain if you really devote yourself to them. The people who fail those degrees fail for the same reasons some people fail 'soft' degrees. They party and drink when they should be studying. The only difference is sometimes you can get a crappy but passing mark in a soft degree when you party and drink a lot. But then those are the people who have a hard time finding a job when they graduate anyway. If I spent 8 hours a day studying math instead of doing my readings, I'd probably be pretty good at math  The thing that makes English 'easy' is that I could also just look at class notes and summaries and still get a C if I were satisfied with that.It's where you wanna go in life, and what you're willing to do to get there. Then luck. It gets annoying when someone brags about that, since basically anyone successful does it. | ||
Chill
Calgary25997 Posts
On January 13 2010 14:57 OpticalShot wrote: Can't help it, Engineering Science @ UT - it's more hell than one can imagine, and honestly, the people who survive and endure through this ridiculous program deserve to be considered superior human beings to others, lol. I'm not joking. The pace, depth, and the sheer amount of courses are just plain ridiculous. Well I went to Queens and it was fine. I can't speak about UofT but unless there's a huge disparity in the courses and difficulty between the two programs I think a lot of engineers are huge babies just looking for acknowledgement. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25997 Posts
On January 13 2010 15:53 lMPERVlOUS wrote: Ella - give him a break. It's all in his head. An excellent definition of an Engineer Without that kind of attitude, you cannot be an engineer Sure you can because that statement is exaggerrated to the point of comedy. It's also great that you're telling people who are something what they should be when you aren't that yet. | ||
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Chill
Calgary25997 Posts
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