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On January 13 2010 08:26 starfries wrote:
And you can solve most any finance problems if you just know how to take derivatives... I think any math major could walk into a engineering/economics/finance/physics class on the first day and have a good stab at the question (not that I'm a math major)
Short of not knowing the correct terminology, and any shortcuts, a math major could probably walk into any other math major's class and at least be able to give it a shot.....
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On January 13 2010 08:39 lMPERVlOUS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 08:26 starfries wrote:
And you can solve most any finance problems if you just know how to take derivatives... I think any math major could walk into a engineering/economics/finance/physics class on the first day and have a good stab at the question (not that I'm a math major) Short of not knowing the correct terminology, and any shortcuts, a math major could probably walk into any other math major's class and at least be able to give it a shot.....
On the first day at least, and it sounds like that's what you did... you did the math the long way and got the right answer, while the prof had magic finance formulas. In the fourth year econ and physics courses I've taken a lot of it is learning shortcuts. If you can set up the right equations for the problem you've basically done most of the hard work...
btw you should definitely stick with engineering, even if you are thinking of doing finance. Half of the recruiters at engineering career are from finance companies looking for smart math kids.
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On January 13 2010 09:16 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 08:39 lMPERVlOUS wrote:On January 13 2010 08:26 starfries wrote:
And you can solve most any finance problems if you just know how to take derivatives... I think any math major could walk into a engineering/economics/finance/physics class on the first day and have a good stab at the question (not that I'm a math major) Short of not knowing the correct terminology, and any shortcuts, a math major could probably walk into any other math major's class and at least be able to give it a shot..... On the first day at least, and it sounds like that's what you did... you did the math the long way and got the right answer, while the prof had magic finance formulas. In the fourth year econ and physics courses I've taken a lot of it is learning shortcuts. If you can set up the right equations for the problem you've basically done most of the hard work... btw you should definitely stick with engineering, even if you are thinking of doing finance. Half of the recruiters at engineering career are from finance companies looking for smart math kids.
Actually, I'm not that brilliant in math..... It just happened that I understand optimization techniques really well. I still failed Cal III after all..... And, having thought of it, I think I figured out how I made a mistake.....
I assumed that the years were a continuous variable (even though they weren't)..... I should have assumed it was a step function, which would have made the question unsolvable (at least, I don't have a clue how to solve that)..... If the prof's formulas were to take that into account (not that I see how that would be accomplished, but I dunno), his answer may have been higher than mine would have been.....
Fuck.....
EDIT - Actually, now I'm not sure how I got the same answer as the prof? Maybe I was close enough to an integer?
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Wow, nice job shitting on the entire class. Impressive, Im sure they're jealous.
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My Calc 3 teacher has been telling my class for years we would be able to do this. I never believed him... until now.
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im a senior in ME.
It sucked hard until now. Im finally in senior classes where you start to learn things that are actually practical! Give me short cuts so I can do a real job!
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On January 13 2010 10:42 Disregard wrote:
Wow, nice job shitting on the entire class. Impressive, Im sure they're jealous.
Jealous? They're learning ways to do that same thing with less than 5% of the work I did. Plus, they're almost done getting their degree - I have a long way to go.....
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On January 13 2010 09:16 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 08:39 lMPERVlOUS wrote:On January 13 2010 08:26 starfries wrote:
And you can solve most any finance problems if you just know how to take derivatives... I think any math major could walk into a engineering/economics/finance/physics class on the first day and have a good stab at the question (not that I'm a math major) Short of not knowing the correct terminology, and any shortcuts, a math major could probably walk into any other math major's class and at least be able to give it a shot..... On the first day at least, and it sounds like that's what you did... you did the math the long way and got the right answer, while the prof had magic finance formulas. In the fourth year econ and physics courses I've taken a lot of it is learning shortcuts. If you can set up the right equations for the problem you've basically done most of the hard work... btw you should definitely stick with engineering, even if you are thinking of doing finance. Half of the recruiters at engineering career are from finance companies looking for smart math kids.
it's only that much more enlightening (read: excruciating) for you if your physics professors make you do the math the long way first before you learn the shortcuts. ah, ladder operators, what would we do without you?
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On January 13 2010 11:38 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 09:16 starfries wrote:On January 13 2010 08:39 lMPERVlOUS wrote:On January 13 2010 08:26 starfries wrote:
And you can solve most any finance problems if you just know how to take derivatives... I think any math major could walk into a engineering/economics/finance/physics class on the first day and have a good stab at the question (not that I'm a math major) Short of not knowing the correct terminology, and any shortcuts, a math major could probably walk into any other math major's class and at least be able to give it a shot..... On the first day at least, and it sounds like that's what you did... you did the math the long way and got the right answer, while the prof had magic finance formulas. In the fourth year econ and physics courses I've taken a lot of it is learning shortcuts. If you can set up the right equations for the problem you've basically done most of the hard work... btw you should definitely stick with engineering, even if you are thinking of doing finance. Half of the recruiters at engineering career are from finance companies looking for smart math kids. it's only that much more enlightening (read: excruciating) for you if your physics professors make you do the math the long way first before you learn the shortcuts. ah, ladder operators, what would we do without you?
amen! sadly I don't even remember the ladder operators anymore, I just know the energy levels and where to look up the wave functions.
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On January 13 2010 11:25 lMPERVlOUS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 10:42 Disregard wrote:
Wow, nice job shitting on the entire class. Impressive, Im sure they're jealous. Jealous? They're learning ways to do that same thing with less than 5% of the work I did. Plus, they're almost done getting their degree - I have a long way to go.....
I meant at your level, you would probably be way more efficient by the time you reach their course.
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On January 13 2010 09:16 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 08:39 lMPERVlOUS wrote:On January 13 2010 08:26 starfries wrote:
And you can solve most any finance problems if you just know how to take derivatives... I think any math major could walk into a engineering/economics/finance/physics class on the first day and have a good stab at the question (not that I'm a math major) Short of not knowing the correct terminology, and any shortcuts, a math major could probably walk into any other math major's class and at least be able to give it a shot..... On the first day at least, and it sounds like that's what you did... you did the math the long way and got the right answer, while the prof had magic finance formulas. In the fourth year econ and physics courses I've taken a lot of it is learning shortcuts. If you can set up the right equations for the problem you've basically done most of the hard work... btw you should definitely stick with engineering, even if you are thinking of doing finance. Half of the recruiters at engineering career are from finance companies looking for smart math kids.
You could have still solved it the same way given a step function and just ignore any negative results, and if it wasn't continuous, then you didn't even have to do calculus, so it sucks that you wasted all the brain power lolollol
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What school?
I'm in 4th year Engineering, I've been through so much pain, and I feel I can literally take any non-Engineering courses with relative ease.
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Canada9720 Posts
like a 4th year english course on american imagist poets?
i did engineering as well, and man the attitude of most engineering students is annoying
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On January 13 2010 13:32 CTStalker wrote:
like a 4th year english course on american imagist poets?
i did engineering as well, and man the attitude of most engineering students is annoying
Yes, I'd much rather take that than say advanced fluid mechanics/thermodynamics (I am not in mechanical engineering). I would have a much higher chance of passing.
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Also, I go to UW, which is known for its Engineering and Math departments, which naturally extends to a much more demanding and selective curriculum. I have taken classes from a wide variety of faculties, and nothing is as hard as some of the engineering courses I had to take, both conceptually and in terms of work load. In 2005, my class began with 93 students with an enrolment average of 87%, now only around 30 of those people are still in my class. Some level of pride is expected.
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Belgium6779 Posts
How about 3d year graphic design
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On January 13 2010 13:44 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 13:32 CTStalker wrote:
like a 4th year english course on american imagist poets?
i did engineering as well, and man the attitude of most engineering students is annoying Yes, I'd much rather take that than say advanced fluid mechanics/thermodynamics (I am not in mechanical engineering). I would have a much higher chance of passing. edit: Also, I go to UW, which is known for its Engineering and Math departments, which naturally extends to a much more demanding and selective curriculum. I have taken classes from a wide variety of faculties, and nothing is as hard as some of the engineering courses I had to take, both conceptually and in terms of work load. In 2005, my class began with 93 students with an enrolment average of 87%, now only around 30 of those people are still in my class. Some level of pride is expected.
A Waterloo engineering degree... yeah that's pretty much cream of the crop 
What are you studying currently?
I lurk here quite a bit and, not to be a creeper, but I know that you went to Japan or something for coop? I'm currently enrolled in the co-op program at my school, and I've seen quite a few opportunities to go to Japan. How did it go for you/would you recommend it?
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Calgary26003 Posts
I'm an engineer and the attitude of engineering students is annoying. It's really not that hard get over yourselves.
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Doesn't matter if it isn't hard, the rest of the stuff is easier.
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On January 13 2010 14:10 Chill wrote:
I'm an engineer and the attitude of engineering students is annoying. It's really not that hard get over yourselves.
Can't help it, Engineering Science @ UT - it's more hell than one can imagine, and honestly, the people who survive and endure through this ridiculous program deserve to be considered superior human beings to others, lol. I'm not joking. The pace, depth, and the sheer amount of courses are just plain ridiculous.
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