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Why the F*ck am I in Engineering? - Page 3

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ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
January 12 2010 21:26 GMT
#41
^ HAHAHA

While being on the brink of failing, he still manages to get 100% on a 4th year question.
Each day gets better : )
TheNearl
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada48 Posts
January 12 2010 21:32 GMT
#42
On January 13 2010 06:11 Chill wrote:
I still don't believe this story btw. It reaks of GoSu. Let me paraphrase:
- I walked into the wrong class.
- I got singled out for being late.
- I solved the fourth-year problem despite not knowing any of the material or equations.
- Further, I left the class wondering how I had found a solution better suited than the professor's.
- Also the professor told me he would give me more than 100% on that question.



I'm with this. He also left out a lot of detail in the problem and haphazardly threw around some complicated math jargon that most people wouldn't question, but I'm not most people. More detail on the problem would be nice, and it sounds like you wrote it down, so lets see it!
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
January 12 2010 21:36 GMT
#43
u kno wats really fockin sad right? these financial whizzes will be the ones buying your, company, downsizing your company (which means firing your bosses or telling your bosses to fire you), and/or being your boss in a few years.

and to think that you're smarter than them... lol

go into banking you earn more and there are hotter girls there anyhow
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 21:44:27
January 12 2010 21:43 GMT
#44
On January 13 2010 05:54 ella_guru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 05:51 TheLardyGooser wrote:
You've all got nothing on a Philosophy student.

When I graduate I get any one of these:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Wait, are the two guys on the right the same guy?!

That'd be cool if you could split yourself into two , with the power of PHILOSOPHY!!



@ Wish. Lol man : )

nah the guy on the far right is definitely Barack Obama, but I don't know who other black man fooo is.
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
RisingTide
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia769 Posts
January 12 2010 21:49 GMT
#45
How come Canadians get cool ritualistic rings? Why can't Australian engineering give those .
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
January 12 2010 22:19 GMT
#46
I agree, engineering rules. My grandfather, my uncles, most of my cousins and my dad are all engineers; I broke tradition and now I am paying the price for such sacrilege.
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 22:23:12
January 12 2010 22:20 GMT
#47
On January 13 2010 06:49 RisingTide wrote:
How come Canadians get cool ritualistic rings? Why can't Australian engineering give those .

anyone can, just make ur own : ) - anyway the trend is picking up elsewhere too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Engineer
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
January 12 2010 22:46 GMT
#48
On January 13 2010 06:21 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 06:11 Chill wrote:
I still don't believe this story btw. It reaks of GoSu. Let me paraphrase:
- I walked into the wrong class.
- I got singled out for being late.
- I solved the fourth-year problem despite not knowing any of the material or equations.
- Further, I left the class wondering how I had found a solution better suited than the professor's.
- Also the professor told me he would give me more than 100% on that question.


Don't forget he's going to a lan instead of going to another party where he could get laid.

Sorry Imp


No you're not.

@ Chill, and anyone else - I expected criticism. I honestly didn't expect to get an answer, but when I looked at it, it reminded me of stuff from Cal III + economics. I just thought I misread my course code.....

Btw, I failed Cal III..... Just found out this afternoon..... I just got back from having a few drinks to numb the sting of it.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 23:15:57
January 12 2010 23:08 GMT
#49
On January 13 2010 06:32 TheNearl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 06:11 Chill wrote:
I still don't believe this story btw. It reaks of GoSu. Let me paraphrase:
- I walked into the wrong class.
- I got singled out for being late.
- I solved the fourth-year problem despite not knowing any of the material or equations.
- Further, I left the class wondering how I had found a solution better suited than the professor's.
- Also the professor told me he would give me more than 100% on that question.



I'm with this. He also left out a lot of detail in the problem and haphazardly threw around some complicated math jargon that most people wouldn't question, but I'm not most people. More detail on the problem would be nice, and it sounds like you wrote it down, so lets see it!


Okay, here's some more detail. I wrote it on the chalkboard, so I don't have the numbers.....

Basically, the question stemmed from the fact that it was an optimization problem of purchasing bonds of varying lengths of time which cost the same (where the interest rates of the bonds and the length of time to maturity would be inversely proportional). There was a Minimum Accepted Rate of Return (MARR) required per year. You had money to spend, but there was an opportunity cost lost the longer it took to mature. Basically, it came down to there being a certain ideal length of time to have the bonds, which had to have a certain interest rate.

The equation was basically like this:

Gain/year = (total money at X period of time - initial money at X period of time)/number of years.

Total money was the uninvested money at the MARR - loss due to opportunity cost + the money of the bought bonds

The equations had a lot of "1/(x)(1+y)^2" style derivatives to them, which led to 0 being an impossible answer. Also, any negative time, interest value, etc..... were inadmissible. As time approached infinity, the values led to 0 as well, which led to there having to be a local maximum somewhere on the domain of 0<x<=infinity.

I solved for critical points, once I simplified it to 2 equations (x and y, giving me a z value). I could have done it without the simplifications, but solving a Hessian of order 3 or higher is a pain in the ass.....

Found that both acceptable critical points were both local maximums. Looked at the value at both (money gained). One was something like 120 000 000, the other was about 60 higher. I figure it's just a rounding error..... Also, since the number of years for the bond to mature has to be an integer (or half an integer, since it was semi-annually compounded), both answers were rounded to the nearest 1/2 year.....

EDIT - all numbers were done in present value.....
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
January 12 2010 23:11 GMT
#50
On January 13 2010 06:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
this blog could have been made into a movie in the early 90's and it woulda kicked ass.


It would have been a crappy movie.....
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 12 2010 23:12 GMT
#51
Yeah it lacks a ben affleck character but I think it still has a chance.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
January 12 2010 23:14 GMT
#52
On January 13 2010 06:36 t_co wrote:
u kno wats really fockin sad right? these financial whizzes will be the ones buying your, company, downsizing your company (which means firing your bosses or telling your bosses to fire you), and/or being your boss in a few years.

and to think that you're smarter than them... lol

go into banking you earn more and there are hotter girls there anyhow


That's just it. I dunno if I could do something like fire someone, or tell someone to fire someone else. I'm definitely no good for management. Or finances. Plus, that was the first day. If it builds from that, it's probably going to be a pretty difficult course..... I was straining at some parts of that answer.
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
January 12 2010 23:17 GMT
#53
On January 13 2010 08:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Yeah it lacks a ben affleck character but I think it still has a chance.


If I was in finances, I would not suggest backing that movie. Ben Affleck may be an awesome actor, but I don't think even he could pull this one to success.....
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 12 2010 23:18 GMT
#54
Joke

___________

Head
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 12 2010 23:22 GMT
#55
Do you like apples?
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
January 12 2010 23:24 GMT
#56
On January 13 2010 08:22 starfries wrote:
Do you like apples?

It's not your fault.

It's not your fault.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4200 Posts
January 12 2010 23:26 GMT
#57
On January 13 2010 08:22 starfries wrote:
Do you like apples?


Does it come with vodka?
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 12 2010 23:26 GMT
#58
And you can solve most any finance problems if you just know how to take derivatives... I think any math major could walk into a engineering/economics/finance/physics class on the first day and have a good stab at the question (not that I'm a math major)
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
January 12 2010 23:28 GMT
#59
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call bullshit on this story, but it was pretty cool nonetheless.
TranslatorBaa!
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 12 2010 23:35 GMT
#60
On January 13 2010 08:24 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 08:22 starfries wrote:
Do you like apples?

It's not your fault.

It's not your fault.


Sorry, I have to go see about a girl.
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
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