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wait until SC2 actually comes out and reap better prices/performance then?
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If you can do it, I definitely suggest building your own from parts. Just finished building my first comp, and it was not tough after doing some research. Saved me a lot of money, and I got a much better comp out of it as well.
I would recommend going a mid range case. Do not cheap out, especially if you live in a warm area. Cool computers with much more space to move makes it 1000x easier, for only around 40 dollars more
For your ram, go g-skill imo. Much better price and quality on the market currently
For your power supply, make sure you dont go too low. You always want to have a little room with voltage, but I say with your setup, 700 would be fine
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1TB drives are the best value per GB right now, so I'd get one of those. I picked up a 1TB Hitachi for $65 a few months ago, and I'm already down to like 500GB free. Also, I'd try to aim for at least a 22" 1680x1050 monitor, which will set you back at least $150, leaving $50 for a mouse and keyboard. Maybe up that part of the budget a little more?
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If you can run Bioshock, you can probably run SC2 too, although not on maximum settings. If you don't want to do that, you can still wait half a year or so until SC2 is actually near release and then get a better/cheaper computer.
For your kind of budget, you should really get a RAID0 or SSD as your system drive. Hard disk performance is often underestimated, but greatly reduces booting/loading times and stuff. Myself, I have a 2*250GB RAID0, and it writes faster than the data drive can read.
I'm not too up to date with the other components, but I'm sure someone else around here can help you out.
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On January 08 2010 18:23 Scorch wrote:
If you can run Bioshock, you can probably run SC2 too, although not on maximum settings. If you don't want to do that, you can still wait half a year or so until SC2 is actually near release and then get a better/cheaper computer.
For your kind of budget, you should really get a RAID0 or SSD as your system drive. Hard disk performance is often underestimated, but greatly reduces booting/loading times and stuff. Myself, I have a 2*250GB RAID0, and it writes faster than the data drive can read.
I'm not too up to date with the other components, but I'm sure someone else around here can help you out.
Yeah, I got my 60 GB SSD for about 160 dollars. Well worth it if you can afford it.
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I agree with teh leet newb, that you should get a larger hard drive.... these stuff amazingly keep filling themselves up with junk pretty quickly : (
And might I suggest a large 19inch (or more) wide screen monitor? you won't regret it1
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How about SSD- drive for OS and games?
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Do they even still sell monitors smaller than 19"? Get a 22" or 24" monitor.
Alternatively, get a dual screen setup of two 5:4 19" monitors. That works wonders whenever you want to do any serious work on your computer, but is worse for gaming.
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On January 08 2010 18:07 Meta wrote:
This is half for myself, saving a few things for future reference.
Background (skip if uninterested):
I've been saving up for a few months and finally have my income worked out for the next 8 months or so and have enough money to buy a new computer, mainly to run SC2.
Max Spending Limit: $1500$700
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why do you take an expensive processor but a crappy gfx?
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Why do you need 8 GB? No game can use more than 2 GB to begin with, do you really plan on playing four games at once? 4 GB should be enough for anything in 2010.
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SSD was already mentioned.
There are like no programs that can use more than 1.8 GB of ram, so more than 4 GB is a waste, since you won't run several of thos at a time.
Don't buy a 260gtx -.- a hd5770 has almost the same performance (slightly ahead in many games, slighty behind in some), costs less, consumes less power, heats up less and has directx 11...
With your budget you can go higher though (but I know I wouldn't, as I don't see me playing anything that requires more). Right now there is pretty much zero reason to buy nvidia, ATi is ahead like everywhere (unless you want stuff like CUDA, which is useless for most), cards perform better, cost the same or less, 5xxx generation consumes less, heats up less, etc.
Might change when nvidia's new generation of GPUs comes out in the next few months, that remains to be seen, but even then the first gfxs cards released will be enthusiast models, which IMHO are never worth the money (and would be more than a waste if your highest requirement is SC2).
Also, instead of "Monitor X, Keyboard X, Mouse X for 200" I would suggest spending more on a monitor. Get a nice 24" or two 22" and with your budget you might want to consider going for a IPS-panel instead of TN.
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this should be fine.
cpu + mobo: should be fine for your needs, you can't really justify a i7 860/920 unless you are everyday video editing etc... . It's also possible to take a i5 750 + p55 mobo.
case: i like the review
hd: it has 500gb platters, i know other brands also have 500gb platters but i cant find a list of them 
gfx: very good performance and features (directx 11) for its price
psu: it's a slight overkill but the one i wanted wasn't in the list
memory: 4 gig is good enough. see R1CH post
cpu cooler: its a good quiet cooler, you can also overclock with it, thou if you really want to reach say 4 ghz i'd take something else
you can move the rest a bit around it's more up to you
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good suggestion by pakje, some comments:
- not a glossy screen!!! I have one myself, and altho it's not annoying me most of the time I'd switch mine into the same model w/o glossy surface in a heartbeat if I could
- phenom II x4 is certainly great bang for the buck wise and one of the best choices for a gaming rig right now, gonna buy myself one of those soon as well (actually, the exact same model pakje mentioned and the same mainboard as well :p ). don't wanna start a quasi-religious amd vs intel war here, but imho for a gaming rig intel is not worth the money right now (especially because the mainboards are more expensive too, I'd rather spend my money on sth else). regular video encoding would be a different story
- case: good, lian li makes some of the best cases
- hd is ok, altho with that budget I'd go with an SSD (some Intel PostVille) for the system and a big WD Caviar Greens for storage
- gfx: too much imho (certainly unnecessary for SC2), I'd go with a 5770, but I dunno what else you play. but otherwise a good choice
- psu: yeah, little too much, at least you didnt pick a 700 :p should be ok tho, some good brands are bequiet, seasonic, enermax, cooler master.
- cpu cooler is ok, I'd prolly go with like a scythe mugen 2, but not much of a difference
add 2-3 120mm fans, for example some noctuas or scythe s-flex
edit: since the op asked whether to buy a complete rig or build one: always build one, always. complete rigs will pretty much always have some crappy components (for example a crappy psu, which is like the worst component to be cheap about) or if they don't be way, way more expensive than a PC you build yourself.
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Obvious dvd rom drive
Cheap effective case
Fast cheap large HDD, the guy above talked about the larger platters but he didn't talk about how it has long random seek times which matter for most performance issues. The larger platters just make it better at sustained read and writes which is usually not the case in most usage of HDD's
Great monitor with taky speakers put in it to cost us more money 
5850 good card kind of over priced but good enough
Great PSU originally wanted a 550w psu but i could find none i liked, went for modular, single rail, with ATX and EPS standards and efficiency.
for the same price i found this baby very good for the price but 750w is way above what you need that's into crossfire territory and high ocs, hell 650w is crossfire for x 5770's easy and you can get 5850 if you have no oc and not too much crap in your computer (i have 6 hdd's in mine) god dam that's a good price for a great psu from a reputiable brand,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256059
http://www.80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_detail.aspx?id=62&type=2
Cheap generic keyboard, really unless you want media keys eh it's more of you thing
Mouse i like just as a filler for one you'd get
Great low watt ram sticks less heat less fuss etc
Cheap effective mobo you can crossfire on that just don't expect putting a wifi card and 10 other pci cards in there it's not a ful atx board
have alot of pci cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412 for 35 bucks more though
Strong i5-750 quad core cpu with HT.
Cost 1300 or about 1500 if you live in cali and have to pay the high taxes and shipping else it be more like 1400 meaning you can play around with the stuff more, maybe get the 750w psu if you plan to crossfire
get a full atx case get an aftermarket cpu cooler so you can run it quieter, although the fans from a 5770 or a 5850 revved up is loud but you can always go after market gpu cooler something from arctic cooling (i love silent pcs)or something etc etc
But this is fairly overkill all over in performance, i'm sure a i5-750 + 5770 could play sc2 effortlessly for the most part and alot of the stuff is on the nicer end instead of the cheaper but mostly effective end.
save you 200 bucks by going in which case i'd spend that money on a nicer case, as you wont have nice modular psu for lazy cable management and zip ties become your best friend
this psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
this gpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150462
if you do that i'd go with this lovely case the HAF wont let you down on air flow
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
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the revamped ati reference design for the 5770 has a much quieter cooler (the one with the egg kind of shape) than the 1st design btw
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Note that you can save on certain places/parts, without screwing the whole project.
Firstly, the memory. You could just get 4 gigs now, later if you need more it´s a lot cheaper. Getting 8 gigs right now is an overkill, don´t worry about installing the extra memory yourself as it´s probably the easiest thing to do compwise.
Nr. 2, assemble it yourself, the internet is full of instructions WITH PICTURES !, all parts have their own warranty ( memories can have a lifetime warranty even ) and so on.
Only the processor and RAM can be destroyed by static electricity if no precautions have been made.
And lastly: your old computer. If you are not going to use it/ sell it, you can always use some parts of it (and then maybe sell the rest or smth). Parts you can keep(unless you really need a replacement/upgrade...or it´s almost dead anyways) : Case, HD, Disk drives..
Old computers tend to get noisy but that´s mostly due to loose screws and old fans so just by some cleaning and fan replacing the case is as new.
I too think your processor seems a bit of an overkill at this point, I´ve always gone by the rule that the GPU should be the most expensive part of the computer.
And get a small SSD drive, what I´ve seen they really upgrade the experience with OS and games. Something like 64gigs should be enough, however it would be a good idea to wait about 6months for the prices to drop.
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for 1500$ i'd get a really decent monitor with the 400~ $.... and 8GB of RAM is overpowered for gaming.
otherwise you still can download moar ram if you really need it.
but why 1500$ for a computer? it's so useless in two years. spend 700$ now, and in 4 years again 700$ for new pc or single updates ( CPU, ram, mobo, videocard).
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On January 08 2010 21:26 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Note that you can save on certain places/parts, without screwing the whole project.
Firstly, the memory. You could just get 4 gigs now, later if you need more it´s a lot cheaper. Getting 8 gigs right now is an overkill, don´t worry about installing the extra memory yourself as it´s probably the easiest thing to do compwise.
Nr. 2, assemble it yourself, the internet is full of instructions WITH PICTURES !, all parts have their own warranty ( memories can have a lifetime warranty even ) and so on.
Only the processor and RAM can be destroyed by static electricity if no precautions have been made.
And lastly: your old computer. If you are not going to use it/ sell it, you can always use some parts of it (and then maybe sell the rest or smth). Parts you can keep(unless you really need a replacement/upgrade...or it´s almost dead anyways) : Case, HD, Disk drives..
Old computers tend to get noisy but that´s mostly due to loose screws and old fans so just by some cleaning and fan replacing the case is as new.
I too think your processor seems a bit of an overkill at this point, I´ve always gone by the rule that the GPU should be the most expensive part of the computer.
And get a small SSD drive, what I´ve seen they really upgrade the experience with OS and games. Something like 64gigs should be enough, however it would be a good idea to wait about 6months for the prices to drop.
It's all about creating a balance, a computer needs to be balanced with all it's components if you buy a cheaper motherboard then don't go with a i7 processor, you need to balance the components you want with that big CPU, so then you need a good mobo and great ram with good latency and you can't go cheap on hard drive or psu... it's a combination... so if you buy a medium processor then follow with medium stuff afterwords so that you computer is well balanced and will run well.
In the end, the person with a normal PC but ad's a raptor 76Go will not be really using the raptor's real speed capacity since he's limited on the pc's information process. ex: processor...
So don't go cheap on one thing and go all in somewhere else it's not going to be worth it in the end.
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On January 08 2010 20:11 Carnac wrote:
good suggestion by pakje, some comments:
- not a glossy screen!!! I have one myself, and altho it's not annoying me most of the time I'd switch mine into the same model w/o glossy surface in a heartbeat if I could
idk i originally wanted the 2443BW, but they're out of stock i figured this one would be atleast half decent
- phenom II x4 is certainly great bang for the buck wise and one of the best choices for a gaming rig right now, gonna buy myself one of those soon as well (actually, the exact same model pakje mentioned and the same mainboard as well :p ). don't wanna start a quasi-religious amd vs intel war here, but imho for a gaming rig intel is not worth the money right now (especially because the mainboards are more expensive too, I'd rather spend my money on sth else). regular video encoding would be a different story
- case: good, lian li makes some of the best cases
yea lancool is the budget division of lian li, ofcourse a budget lian li still pwns almost everything
- hd is ok, altho with that budget I'd go with an SSD (some Intel PostVille) for the system and a big WD Caviar Greens for storage
currently ssd's are too expensive for me, might change soon as they are releasing allot at CES
- gfx: too much imho (certainly unnecessary for SC2), I'd go with a 5770, but I dunno what else you play. but otherwise a good choice
well he said bioshock, but honestly what isn't too much for sc2
- psu: yeah, little too much, at least you didnt pick a 700 :p should be ok tho, some good brands are bequiet, seasonic, enermax, cooler master.
I couldn't find a cm real power m520
- cpu cooler is ok, I'd prolly go with like a scythe mugen 2, but not much of a difference
same here but it was out of stock -_-
add 2-3 120mm fans, for example some noctuas or scythe s-flex
for non-overclockers the case fans should be sufficient
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On January 08 2010 22:48 LorD_AreS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 21:26 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Note that you can save on certain places/parts, without screwing the whole project.
Firstly, the memory. You could just get 4 gigs now, later if you need more it´s a lot cheaper. Getting 8 gigs right now is an overkill, don´t worry about installing the extra memory yourself as it´s probably the easiest thing to do compwise.
Nr. 2, assemble it yourself, the internet is full of instructions WITH PICTURES !, all parts have their own warranty ( memories can have a lifetime warranty even ) and so on.
Only the processor and RAM can be destroyed by static electricity if no precautions have been made.
And lastly: your old computer. If you are not going to use it/ sell it, you can always use some parts of it (and then maybe sell the rest or smth). Parts you can keep(unless you really need a replacement/upgrade...or it´s almost dead anyways) : Case, HD, Disk drives..
Old computers tend to get noisy but that´s mostly due to loose screws and old fans so just by some cleaning and fan replacing the case is as new.
I too think your processor seems a bit of an overkill at this point, I´ve always gone by the rule that the GPU should be the most expensive part of the computer.
And get a small SSD drive, what I´ve seen they really upgrade the experience with OS and games. Something like 64gigs should be enough, however it would be a good idea to wait about 6months for the prices to drop. It's all about creating a balance, a computer needs to be balanced with all it's components if you buy a cheaper motherboard then don't go with a i7 processor, you need to balance the components you want with that big CPU, so then you need a good mobo and great ram with good latency and you can't go cheap on hard drive or psu... it's a combination... so if you buy a medium processor then follow with medium stuff afterwords so that you computer is well balanced and will run well. In the end, the person with a normal PC but ad's a raptor 76Go will not be really using the raptor's real speed capacity since he's limited on the pc's information process. ex: processor... So don't go cheap on one thing and go all in somewhere else it's not going to be worth it in the end.
They don't make "cheap" motherboards for the core i7, so no worries there anyhow 
Also the idea of a processor bottlenecking a hard drive makes me giggle a little bit
I will also add that you should NEVER go cheap on a PSU. I mean really, it's like the heart of your computer!
And last but not least, Core i7 uses triple channel memory, so your best option is probably getting 3GB (3x1GB) so you have 1GB for each each channel. If you are really ballsy then you could get 6gb, or 12, or 24 :O:O:O:O:O:O!!!!!).
Edit: Only 9xx i7's use triple channel, Thanks to FragKrag and KOFgokuon for correcting me!
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Well it depends on the i7 you choose. The i7 8xx have the 'cheap' motherboards :D
Honestly I have a huge issue with the hard drives people are recommending. Samsung Spinpoint, Caviar Green, wtf? The guy has 1.5k, and the least you could do is invest an extra $20-50 for a larger, faster hard drive like a Seagate Barracuda, WD Blue/Black.
8GB of RAM is more than useless. Buy 2x2GB and save yourself the money because RAM is amazingly expensive now T_T
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On January 09 2010 01:00 FragKrag wrote:
Well it depends on the i7 you choose. The i7 8xx have the 'cheap' motherboards :D
Honestly I have a huge issue with the hard drives people are recommending. Samsung Spinpoint, Caviar Green, wtf? The guy has 1.5k, and the least you could do is invest an extra $20-50 for a larger, faster hard drive like a Seagate Barracuda, WD Blue/Black.
8GB of RAM is more than useless. Buy 2x2GB and save yourself the money because RAM is amazingly expensive now T_T
Haha I just read about the i7 8xx this and I was about to edit that in, thanks for clarifying. Last time I really looked into this stuff, the 8xx models didn't exist ^_^
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On January 09 2010 00:03 Pakje wrote:Show nested quote +- hd is ok, altho with that budget I'd go with an SSD (some Intel PostVille) for the system and a big WD Caviar Greens for storage
currently ssd's are too expensive for me, might change soon as they are releasing allot at CES Show nested quote +
- gfx: too much imho (certainly unnecessary for SC2), I'd go with a 5770, but I dunno what else you play. but otherwise a good choice
well he said bioshock, but honestly what isn't too much for sc2
meh, I have no idea what the gfx requirements of bioshock are
I just know that if my budget were 1.5k I'd rather buy SSD + HD5770 than spending the money on a HD5850 Always assuming that the 5770 suffices ofc
for non-overclockers the case fans should be sufficient
well, performance wise for sure, but I find most preinstalled case fans too loud
just a personal preference
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On January 08 2010 19:22 Pakje wrote:
The only thing I have to note about that is that I've tried fatal1ty headset before, and it was one of the worst I've ever tried. total crap.
This is my humble opinion of course. Personally I'd go for steelseries 5hv2 or speedlink medusa 5.1 or something for the headset.
I just thought I'd mention this to avoid dissapointments, as it's very easy to be dissapointed about items such as these.
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On January 09 2010 01:52 Ahzz wrote:The only thing I have to note about that is that I've tried fatal1ty headset before, and it was one of the worst I've ever tried. total crap. This is my humble opinion of course. Personally I'd go for steelseries 5hv2 or speedlink medusa 5.1 or something for the headset. I just thought I'd mention this to avoid dissapointments, as it's very easy to be dissapointed about items such as these.
np I already said that you can move the mouse, headset, screen a bit around. I just took them caus i saw some good reviews
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On January 09 2010 00:46 TheNearl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 22:48 LorD_AreS wrote:On January 08 2010 21:26 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Note that you can save on certain places/parts, without screwing the whole project.
Firstly, the memory. You could just get 4 gigs now, later if you need more it´s a lot cheaper. Getting 8 gigs right now is an overkill, don´t worry about installing the extra memory yourself as it´s probably the easiest thing to do compwise.
Nr. 2, assemble it yourself, the internet is full of instructions WITH PICTURES !, all parts have their own warranty ( memories can have a lifetime warranty even ) and so on.
Only the processor and RAM can be destroyed by static electricity if no precautions have been made.
And lastly: your old computer. If you are not going to use it/ sell it, you can always use some parts of it (and then maybe sell the rest or smth). Parts you can keep(unless you really need a replacement/upgrade...or it´s almost dead anyways) : Case, HD, Disk drives..
Old computers tend to get noisy but that´s mostly due to loose screws and old fans so just by some cleaning and fan replacing the case is as new.
I too think your processor seems a bit of an overkill at this point, I´ve always gone by the rule that the GPU should be the most expensive part of the computer.
And get a small SSD drive, what I´ve seen they really upgrade the experience with OS and games. Something like 64gigs should be enough, however it would be a good idea to wait about 6months for the prices to drop. It's all about creating a balance, a computer needs to be balanced with all it's components if you buy a cheaper motherboard then don't go with a i7 processor, you need to balance the components you want with that big CPU, so then you need a good mobo and great ram with good latency and you can't go cheap on hard drive or psu... it's a combination... so if you buy a medium processor then follow with medium stuff afterwords so that you computer is well balanced and will run well. In the end, the person with a normal PC but ad's a raptor 76Go will not be really using the raptor's real speed capacity since he's limited on the pc's information process. ex: processor... So don't go cheap on one thing and go all in somewhere else it's not going to be worth it in the end. They don't make "cheap" motherboards for the core i7, so no worries there anyhow Also the idea of a processor bottlenecking a hard drive makes me giggle a little bit I will also add that you should NEVER go cheap on a PSU. I mean really, it's like the heart of your computer! And last but not least, Core i7 uses triple channel memory, so your best option is probably getting 3GB (3x1GB) so you have 1GB for each each channel. If you are really ballsy then you could get 6gb, or 12, or 24 :O:O:O:O:O:O!!!!!).
only the 1366 core i7's use triple channel, the i7 860 uses the 1156 socket and uses dual channel ram
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On January 09 2010 00:46 TheNearl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 22:48 LorD_AreS wrote:On January 08 2010 21:26 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Note that you can save on certain places/parts, without screwing the whole project.
Firstly, the memory. You could just get 4 gigs now, later if you need more it´s a lot cheaper. Getting 8 gigs right now is an overkill, don´t worry about installing the extra memory yourself as it´s probably the easiest thing to do compwise.
Nr. 2, assemble it yourself, the internet is full of instructions WITH PICTURES !, all parts have their own warranty ( memories can have a lifetime warranty even ) and so on.
Only the processor and RAM can be destroyed by static electricity if no precautions have been made.
And lastly: your old computer. If you are not going to use it/ sell it, you can always use some parts of it (and then maybe sell the rest or smth). Parts you can keep(unless you really need a replacement/upgrade...or it´s almost dead anyways) : Case, HD, Disk drives..
Old computers tend to get noisy but that´s mostly due to loose screws and old fans so just by some cleaning and fan replacing the case is as new.
I too think your processor seems a bit of an overkill at this point, I´ve always gone by the rule that the GPU should be the most expensive part of the computer.
And get a small SSD drive, what I´ve seen they really upgrade the experience with OS and games. Something like 64gigs should be enough, however it would be a good idea to wait about 6months for the prices to drop. It's all about creating a balance, a computer needs to be balanced with all it's components if you buy a cheaper motherboard then don't go with a i7 processor, you need to balance the components you want with that big CPU, so then you need a good mobo and great ram with good latency and you can't go cheap on hard drive or psu... it's a combination... so if you buy a medium processor then follow with medium stuff afterwords so that you computer is well balanced and will run well. In the end, the person with a normal PC but ad's a raptor 76Go will not be really using the raptor's real speed capacity since he's limited on the pc's information process. ex: processor... So don't go cheap on one thing and go all in somewhere else it's not going to be worth it in the end. They don't make "cheap" motherboards for the core i7, so no worries there anyhow Also the idea of a processor bottlenecking a hard drive makes me giggle a little bit I will also add that you should NEVER go cheap on a PSU. I mean really, it's like the heart of your computer! And last but not least, Core i7 uses triple channel memory, so your best option is probably getting 3GB (3x1GB) so you have 1GB for each each channel. If you are really ballsy then you could get 6gb, or 12, or 24 :O:O:O:O:O:O!!!!!).
Yes exactly what I'm saying and yes I know most motherboard i7 are almost all good "almost" some brands are DO NOT TOUCH in my case. Memory always works better in channels so thats good and psu well it goes with what you have I mean don't tell the guy that has a standard graphic card and low processor to get a 800W psu it's just insane and won't spend the money correctly... But yes PSU is very important.
Why does the idea of processor bottlenecking a hard drive make you giggle you don't think it's true or you find it funny that people actually do that ! ?
You could always benchmark a raptor on a x2phenom (let's not go too high) and then benchmark it on a amd Athlon 4200+ and will see the difference your score (HDD only) will be higher for the access information.
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^ No one is talking about freaking 5 years old CPUs. nice theorycrafting there.
And you are really comparing sequential writes/read on a HD. For random accessing which your operating system will do alot, it is very very unlikely that you will bottleneck it.
People, stop recommending the Samsung F3. It is a great storage drive, its main advantage is sequential read/write (transferring).
Look, pick any CPU you want and grab a SSD or velociraptor.
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I cringe at the speak + headphone selection.
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there is absolutely no reason to be buying a gtx260 at this point in time, especially at that price. get a 4890 or 5770. that WD500gb black is a three platter drive. that means increased heat and access time. go for a WD640gb blue or seagate 7200.12 500gb.
there is also no reason to buy an i7 860 unless you need the slightly more aggressive turbo or power saving it provides. at that price point i dont think spending an extra $50 on a 1366 motherboard matters but it opens up more options.
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On January 08 2010 20:29 Carnac wrote:
the revamped ati reference design for the 5770 has a much quieter cooler (the one with the egg kind of shape) than the 1st design btw
Yeah I just got my 5770 a few weeks ago, and the new cooler is really nice. I idle at 40C and load at 65C with a nice overclock. Much, much quieter than the X1950XT it replaced. I run Dragon Age at 1680x1050 with full AA/AF, details, etc at around 40-60FPS. I'm pretty sure I'm actually CPU bottlenecked at this point, since I'm still on a 2.53ghz E7200.
A core i5 should be more than enough for gaming. You can always overclock too. As for RAM, I'm on 4GB right now, and I run a shitton of apps in the background (I have 80 processes open right now), so I push the envelope a bit when I play games. RAM needs will vary from person to person though, so that's up to you.
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Why are people recommending a 5770 at a 1.2k-1.3k budget
Get a 5850, and an i5 750.
I know a bunch of people are going to attack this statement, but if you plan on going i7 920, you may want to look into CyberPowerPC's line of customizable prebuilts. It's really hard to configure a workable i7 920 at under 1.3k (with OS, mouse, keyboard, wireless adapter, etc) and still fit in a 5850 without skimping on mobo or something, but somehow it is possible on CyberPowerPC to get a 1.2k i7 920. The only 'problem' would be the reliability of the 700W PSU, but it should be fine.
That said, don't buy gaming peripherals or monitors from CyberPower. Just the essentials like the adapter and stuff. For monitors, it's better to stalk newegg.com for when they have free shipping/discounts on LCDs.
edit: if you don't want to build your PC:
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com
coupon code: Myspace for $30 off.
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Just set up what I think I'm gonna buy, what do you guys think? I'm gonna sleep on it and make the purchase tomorrow.
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FYI that I have that case and it's LOUD.
I would probably spend a little more on the monitor but it's your choice.
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not sure why you insist on 8 gb ram, various ppl including the r1ch the wizard have told you it's a waste :p
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yea minus the ram i think it looks fine
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On January 09 2010 20:56 Meta wrote:Just set up what I think I'm gonna buy, what do you guys think? I'm gonna sleep on it and make the purchase tomorrow.
get another case and a cpu cooler (mugen 2) assuming you want a silent pc.
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On January 09 2010 22:02 haduken wrote:
FYI that I have that case and it's LOUD.
I would probably spend a little more on the monitor but it's your choice.
Assuming you have everything hooked up and the fans are PVM you can just adjust case fan speeds in most bios' under power usually. I have an aftermarket GPU and CPU cooler i know it can get a little ambient high in my case but my gpu an cpu should be fine so i keep my fan speeds around 1200rpm
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On January 09 2010 20:56 Meta wrote:Just set up what I think I'm gonna buy, what do you guys think? I'm gonna sleep on it and make the purchase tomorrow.
cut 4gb of RAM and get a better case like the Cooler Master HAF 922 or Scout. That case is soooo fucking loud.
I have no idea why you insist on that useless amount of RAM :/
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I did cut down to 4 GB of RAM.
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it says you purchased 2x4GB sticks of RAM which is 8 :p
if 4GB of RAM was $200 I would die
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lol, alright I was wrong. that RAM was actually a link posted by someone earlier in this thread. I changed it as well as the case, but I'm completely lost when it comes to buying a heatsink. The mugen2 somebody suggested is out of stock. What type of compatibility should I be looking for in a heatsink?
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wow i never realized non stock coolers were that big haha
I did some reading, I should have just bought a cooler before I put my shit together
Oh well >.<
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Yeah non stock coolers usually like to pertrude to be massive heatsinks when it comes to computers. Just note that the coolers for cpu are big enough that a backplate is usually given to support the weight it's why you always want a roomy case. if you want to talk about massive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103056
lol but the nice thing about it is that you can run the fan speed usually pretty low and the temperature is usually pretty stable even under load still so they are great for quiet pcs
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