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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
December 25 2009 21:33 GMT
#21
The funny thing about Shine is that he's really been proving himself lately yet he continues getting so much hate.

Just look at his game list since the OSL prelims:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=623&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=10&from_day=2&to_year=2009&to_month=12&to_day=25&action=Update

19 wins 10 losses. 5-3 vP, 6-4 vT, 8-3 vZ. (19-11 total, 8-4 vZ if you count MSL preseason events). Beating Bisu and Stork in bo3's. Beating Effort TWICE. Beating Fantasy, Iris and SkyHigh.

This kid is doing really well against a hard line-up. Stop calling him trash!
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51691 Posts
December 25 2009 22:28 GMT
#22
he deserves the hate because;

On December 25 2009 21:01 IdrA wrote:
shine's the epitome of the new generation of zergs that has 0 management skill and just coasts on muta control. if muta control or cheesy stuff, like sticking on 3 base vs 3 base in order to make a buttload of hydras, doesnt give him a game winning advantage he loses.


and players like this truly suck
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Horiz0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Sweden364 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 22:45:49
December 25 2009 22:30 GMT
#23
People should learn to show some respect because the player they hate another members likes. These rage-posts are just so unnecessary, shout in your apartments all you want but show some respect on TL. That being said there will probably be fewer bans then I'd like.

On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote:
he deserves the hate because;

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:01 IdrA wrote:
shine's the epitome of the new generation of zergs that has 0 management skill and just coasts on muta control. if muta control or cheesy stuff, like sticking on 3 base vs 3 base in order to make a buttload of hydras, doesnt give him a game winning advantage he loses.


and players like this truly suck


Seems to me like Shine plays to win, which at the end of the day is what its all about...


*Edit
I read through the hate-post and it made me feel a bit disappointed at TL which I have allways thought highly of in the “gamer fan sites” category. I thought we where better than this...
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
December 25 2009 22:42 GMT
#24
I don't agree with people calling FlaSh a cheesing noob -.-;... just look at how he won the 1st set.
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SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
December 25 2009 22:42 GMT
#25
Can somebody link me the flash game, whys evertybody hatin on him!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 25 2009 22:51 GMT
#26
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote:
he deserves the hate because;

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:01 IdrA wrote:
shine's the epitome of the new generation of zergs that has 0 management skill and just coasts on muta control. if muta control or cheesy stuff, like sticking on 3 base vs 3 base in order to make a buttload of hydras, doesnt give him a game winning advantage he loses.


and players like this truly suck


he has no late-game skill or management as shown in game 2 vs stork, but he's very good at mind games and early game play.

and he's had the toughest path to the ro4 out of anyone.

movie: hero, light, go.go, pusan, zero
shine: really, bisu, effort, fantasy, stork

i like movie's style more but shine's had a much tougher path to get where he is
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
December 25 2009 22:55 GMT
#27
I enjoy all the people making fun of flash's cheese, but fail to realize it was a strategy developed to snipe the first overlord, and extremely timing based.

So yes, all of you that were whining about flash, you're beyond stupid.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
December 25 2009 22:55 GMT
#28
lol i like how they complain about 8 rax shit when its not even cheese. HEY GUYS I GET A FREE BASE AND I MINE MORE MINERALS YEA. God use the 9 pool.
pew pew
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 25 2009 22:58 GMT
#29
On December 26 2009 07:55 geegee1 wrote:
lol i like how they complain about 8 rax shit when its not even cheese. HEY GUYS I GET A FREE BASE AND I MINE MORE MINERALS YEA. God use the 9 pool.


the same people probably scream "OMG JvZ" when jaedong uses 9 pool vs 12 hatch, even though it's the same concept as 8 rax vs 12 hatch
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
December 25 2009 23:04 GMT
#30
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote:
he deserves the hate because;

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:01 IdrA wrote:
shine's the epitome of the new generation of zergs that has 0 management skill and just coasts on muta control. if muta control or cheesy stuff, like sticking on 3 base vs 3 base in order to make a buttload of hydras, doesnt give him a game winning advantage he loses.


and players like this truly suck

In this case Greg has no right whatsoever to call a pro ten times better than him like that
he plays the way he plays and whats important that he wins with it lately. you know his "tricks" and game style?beat him then, becouse theres counter to like everything
and dont even bring me the "cheese" discussion,just becouse its not what the korean protosses play against during practice hours doesnt mean that strat is worse or victory achieved with it less valuable
win is a win, get over it already
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 23:12:02
December 25 2009 23:07 GMT
#31
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote:
he deserves the hate because;

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:01 IdrA wrote:
shine's the epitome of the new generation of zergs that has 0 management skill and just coasts on muta control. if muta control or cheesy stuff, like sticking on 3 base vs 3 base in order to make a buttload of hydras, doesnt give him a game winning advantage he loses.


and players like this truly suck

Then it's Bisu/Effort/Fantasy/Stork's fault for letting this style of player win games.

I don't see how playing to your strengths, and bringing the most you're capable of is deserving of hate.

EDIT: After looking back at the Hero/Canata/Stork/Movie MSL group thread, and in light of the OSL Ro8 thread, I've concluded that Stork fanboys have eclipsed Bisu fanboys in whining.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 23:12:02
December 25 2009 23:09 GMT
#32
On December 26 2009 08:04 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote:
he deserves the hate because;

On December 25 2009 21:01 IdrA wrote:
shine's the epitome of the new generation of zergs that has 0 management skill and just coasts on muta control. if muta control or cheesy stuff, like sticking on 3 base vs 3 base in order to make a buttload of hydras, doesnt give him a game winning advantage he loses.


and players like this truly suck

In this case Greg has no right whatsoever to call a pro ten times better than him like that
he plays the way he plays and whats important that he wins with it lately. you know his "tricks" and game style?beat him then, becouse theres counter to like everything
and dont even bring me the "cheese" discussion,just becouse its not what the korean protosses play against during practice hours doesnt mean that strat is worse or victory achieved with it less valuable
win is a win, get over it already


idra didn't say he sucked, GTR did

idra's description of shine's style is pretty accurate. i'm not sure who else in the "new generation of zergs" besides by.hero.

"EDIT: After looking back at the Hero/Canata/Stork/Movie MSL group thread, I've concluded that Stork fanboys have eclipsed Bisu fanboys in whining."

post topless pics of a progamer and legions of fanboys will defend him to the death

i personally wouldn't do that, unless it was tossgirl
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
December 25 2009 23:09 GMT
#33
Funny because wasn't Flash's nickname "Cheesy Bitch" for a while?
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-25 23:13:12
December 25 2009 23:11 GMT
#34
On December 26 2009 07:55 geegee1 wrote:
lol i like how they complain about 8 rax shit when its not even cheese. HEY GUYS I GET A FREE BASE AND I MINE MORE MINERALS YEA. God use the 9 pool.


Hey, look at me, I'm Terran, I can stay on 2 base for an entire game and still just push out and roll a 4 base Zerg!

1. 8rax is cheese.
2. If 8rax isn't cheese, that just proves how imba it is then, if it's not even cheese and it can destroy a Zerg in the first 3 minutes of the game -.-

Terran rage =<

I personally don't really care if someone cheeses, that's just part of the game. Terran just has too many ways to fuck the Zerg over with imba shit like 8rax-bunker rush. =\
TranslatorBaa!
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
December 25 2009 23:11 GMT
#35
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote:
he deserves the hate because;

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2009 21:01 IdrA wrote:
shine's the epitome of the new generation of zergs that has 0 management skill and just coasts on muta control. if muta control or cheesy stuff, like sticking on 3 base vs 3 base in order to make a buttload of hydras, doesnt give him a game winning advantage he loses.


and players like this truly suck


I don't see IdrA in any OSL semifinals...
May the BeSt man win.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 25 2009 23:14 GMT
#36
On December 26 2009 08:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
1. 8rax is cheese.
2. If 8rax isn't cheese, that just proves how imba it is then, if it's not even cheese and it can destroy a Zerg in the first 3 minutes of the game -.-

1. 8rax is not cheese.
2. 8rax->bunker rush is cheese. There's a distinct difference, seeing as you can end up going 8rax, snipe the overlord, scout a 9pool, then wall in and tech.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 25 2009 23:22 GMT
#37
What I find interesting that TL has evolved enough to have its own legends [Rekrul], memes [u gotta skate, Romanians, useful skill toi have] and metathreads [threads about other threads like this].

I started reading TL in 2005 and it certainly wasn't as a cool place then as it is now (though that era had its own share of insider jokes, mysteries (who is mensrea) and WE HAD TO WATCH VODS FROM TORRENT)
And all is illuminated.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-26 00:13:06
December 26 2009 00:12 GMT
#38
Heh.

Flash hate is nothing new. People just seemed to have forgotten, or jumped on the fanboywagon without knowing his history. Remember when he cheesed Bisu out of the Daum OSL? Yum yum.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 26 2009 00:59 GMT
#39
I remember seeing quite a few people with less than 100 posts raging in that thread so it probably explains the BM
KTY
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
December 26 2009 01:06 GMT
#40
There SHOULD have been 15+ bans handed out.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
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