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t_co
United States702 Posts
Of course, when + Show Spoiler + you have Flash cheesing JD out of the OSL, and Shine going for Muta-->Hydra bust on Stork, you're almost guaranteed to get lots of shit. Poll: How many bans will the OSL Ro8 generate? (Vote): 0-5 (Vote): 6-10 (Vote): 11-15 (Vote): 15+ (please give reasoning) EDIT: Just go to the thread, click "All", press Ctrl+F and search for "retard", "troll", "gayness", "imba"...   | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
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cz
United States3249 Posts
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t_co
United States702 Posts
"Fuck you Jaedong for sucking and not delivering on a potentially epic series!!!!! You ruined Christmas!!! Generic insult about your sexuality!!!!! - Hide Spoiler - haha jk jk, the JD fanboy bitching in this thread was a pleasure to read" ...the latest comment from that thread EDIT: spoiler'd | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 25 2009 21:09 Beachac wrote: SHINE WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING PIECE OF NIGGER SHIT FAGGOT ZERG On December 25 2009 21:10 MuffinDude wrote: GOD FUCKING DAMIT FUCK THE LAG FUCK THE ZERG FUCK THIS OSL On December 25 2009 21:10 De4ngus wrote: What the fuck Shine. You don't deserve this at all. On December 25 2009 21:10 Jee-Host wrote: I want all gay zergs to immediately DIE On December 25 2009 21:10 scyper wrote: shines a jackass!! On December 25 2009 21:11 Draffut wrote: What a fucking tool shine is. Come back after you learn anything besides OPalisk micro. On December 25 2009 21:11 Crunchums wrote: fuck you shine you fucking fuck do you fucking think you're fuck fuckfukcfukcufk so fucking posisssssssed arrrrrrrrrrrh fuck On December 25 2009 21:12 SkelA wrote: HORIBLE STREAM HORIBLE GAMES HORIBLE FLASH + CALM CHEESEFEST WOHOO NICE DAY On December 25 2009 21:13 MuffinDude wrote: FUCKING LAG FUCKING CHEESE FUCKING ZERG GAYNESS FUCKING GAY CHRISTMAS PRESENTS. On December 25 2009 21:13 o3.power91 wrote: I'm sorry but if a Starleague has Shine in the semifinals, I can't take it seriously. On December 25 2009 21:21 Xiphos wrote: Well, I can ACTUALLY find a replay of a D level Iccup player mine out the backdoor mineral patches and then attempt to make a zergling runby, ruin the toss' economy and then just send in Mutalisk to get the main with a followup of Hydra break. You don't even need 200 apm for that! | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
For the record, I hated shine before he started knocking big name players out kk | ||
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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t_co
United States702 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:49 Megalisk wrote: I sure as hell wasn't rational..go ahead and ban me for being passionate about esports. Well for the most part you were ok... passion is fine it's just elementary school insults that rankle | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
On December 26 2009 05:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote: im surprised the guy who called shine a nigger faggot isn't banned yet WTF..IMO its fine to rage over the game and stuff, but insulting people like that has no place here  . | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 25 2009 18:53 Misrah wrote: Flash you worthless scum, i waited all week for this game, and this is what you give me? Damn terran shit. On December 25 2009 18:54 o3.power91 wrote: Two words for Flash: Fuck you. On December 25 2009 18:54 Myxomatosis wrote: awful game. fuck you flash and i sincerely hope that you get annihilated by calm or stork. if shine wins today this will be a totally ffffffffuuuuuuuuu christmas On December 25 2009 18:54 3nickma wrote: Fuck Flash! Chessing n00b Terran... So people said Ruby was the better player becuase FireFirst cheesed him out? Well then JD must be the superior player over Flash since he tries that shit. Goddanmit... A BO5 would've been much better for the overall performance and results. But that's life. On December 25 2009 18:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Fuck Terran, bunker rush is the most imba shit in the history of the game T_T RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE =< On December 25 2009 18:51 samachking wrote: Also Fuck the terran race, fuck you terrans and your gayass 8rax cheeses that require no skill to execute and autowin the game 50% the time or get you way ahead T___T On December 25 2009 18:51 DragoonPK wrote: aww flash wtf.. U ruined image of you .. screw u On December 25 2009 18:50 oatboy wrote: Flash...you fucking fag, your fans are disappointed On December 25 2009 18:50 Goragoth wrote: Lol Flash what a cheesing noob. On December 25 2009 18:50 meegrean wrote: Flash is so fucking lame. On December 25 2009 18:51 barbahaba0 wrote: i think flash has just earned my hate!!! wtf i've been waiting for a week for this !! cheese shit! | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 26 2009 05:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote: im surprised the guy who called shine a nigger faggot isn't banned yet Its cuz the mods are too tied up banning tdotkrayz. | ||
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love1another
United States1844 Posts
On December 26 2009 05:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote: im surprised the guy who called shine a nigger faggot isn't banned yet My advanced statistical analysis gives that guy a thirty-two point three three, repeating of course, percentage, of survival. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13069 Posts
I was just pissed that stream was lagging like hell and ofc stork losing but i dont really hate shine he is good to watch but not against stork | ||
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aeroH
United States1034 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote: + Show Spoiler + let me post the wall of shine hatred On December 25 2009 21:09 Beachac wrote: SHINE WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING PIECE OF NIGGER SHIT FAGGOT ZERG On December 25 2009 21:10 MuffinDude wrote: GOD FUCKING DAMIT FUCK THE LAG FUCK THE ZERG FUCK THIS OSL On December 25 2009 21:10 De4ngus wrote: What the fuck Shine. You don't deserve this at all. On December 25 2009 21:10 Jee-Host wrote: I want all gay zergs to immediately DIE On December 25 2009 21:10 scyper wrote: shines a jackass!! On December 25 2009 21:11 Draffut wrote: What a fucking tool shine is. Come back after you learn anything besides OPalisk micro. On December 25 2009 21:11 Crunchums wrote: fuck you shine you fucking fuck do you fucking think you're fuck fuckfukcfukcufk so fucking posisssssssed arrrrrrrrrrrh fuck On December 25 2009 21:12 SkelA wrote: HORIBLE STREAM HORIBLE GAMES HORIBLE FLASH + CALM CHEESEFEST WOHOO NICE DAY On December 25 2009 21:13 MuffinDude wrote: FUCKING LAG FUCKING CHEESE FUCKING ZERG GAYNESS FUCKING GAY CHRISTMAS PRESENTS. On December 25 2009 21:13 o3.power91 wrote: I'm sorry but if a Starleague has Shine in the semifinals, I can't take it seriously. On December 25 2009 21:21 Xiphos wrote: Well, I can ACTUALLY find a replay of a D level Iccup player mine out the backdoor mineral patches and then attempt to make a zergling runby, ruin the toss' economy and then just send in Mutalisk to get the main with a followup of Hydra break. You don't even need 200 apm for that! agree with everything there | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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Amarxist
United States371 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On December 26 2009 05:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: + Show Spoiler + and now i present the wall of flash hatred On December 25 2009 18:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Fuck Terran, bunker rush is the most imba shit in the history of the game T_T RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE =< For the record, I was hating on Terran, not Flash specifically ^_^ | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
Just look at his game list since the OSL prelims: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?type=players&id=623&part=games&vs=all&league=any&map=any&from_year=2009&from_month=10&from_day=2&to_year=2009&to_month=12&to_day=25&action=Update 19 wins 10 losses. 5-3 vP, 6-4 vT, 8-3 vZ. (19-11 total, 8-4 vZ if you count MSL preseason events). Beating Bisu and Stork in bo3's. Beating Effort TWICE. Beating Fantasy, Iris and SkyHigh. This kid is doing really well against a hard line-up. Stop calling him trash! | ||
GTR
51491 Posts
On December 25 2009 21:01 IdrA wrote: shine's the epitome of the new generation of zergs that has 0 management skill and just coasts on muta control. if muta control or cheesy stuff, like sticking on 3 base vs 3 base in order to make a buttload of hydras, doesnt give him a game winning advantage he loses. and players like this truly suck | ||
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Horiz0n
Sweden364 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote: he deserves the hate because; and players like this truly suck Seems to me like Shine plays to win, which at the end of the day is what its all about... *Edit I read through the hate-post and it made me feel a bit disappointed at TL which I have allways thought highly of in the “gamer fan sites” category. I thought we where better than this... | ||
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Loser777
1931 Posts
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SanguineToss
Canada815 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote: he deserves the hate because; and players like this truly suck he has no late-game skill or management as shown in game 2 vs stork, but he's very good at mind games and early game play. and he's had the toughest path to the ro4 out of anyone. movie: hero, light, go.go, pusan, zero shine: really, bisu, effort, fantasy, stork i like movie's style more but shine's had a much tougher path to get where he is | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
So yes, all of you that were whining about flash, you're beyond stupid. | ||
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geegee1
United States618 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:55 geegee1 wrote: lol i like how they complain about 8 rax shit when its not even cheese. HEY GUYS I GET A FREE BASE AND I MINE MORE MINERALS YEA. God use the 9 pool. the same people probably scream "OMG JvZ" when jaedong uses 9 pool vs 12 hatch, even though it's the same concept as 8 rax vs 12 hatch | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote: he deserves the hate because; and players like this truly suck In this case Greg has no right whatsoever to call a pro ten times better than him like that he plays the way he plays and whats important that he wins with it lately. you know his "tricks" and game style?beat him then, becouse theres counter to like everything and dont even bring me the "cheese" discussion,just becouse its not what the korean protosses play against during practice hours doesnt mean that strat is worse or victory achieved with it less valuable win is a win, get over it already | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote: he deserves the hate because; and players like this truly suck Then it's Bisu/Effort/Fantasy/Stork's fault for letting this style of player win games. I don't see how playing to your strengths, and bringing the most you're capable of is deserving of hate. EDIT: After looking back at the Hero/Canata/Stork/Movie MSL group thread, and in light of the OSL Ro8 thread, I've concluded that Stork fanboys have eclipsed Bisu fanboys in whining. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 26 2009 08:04 Itachii wrote: In this case Greg has no right whatsoever to call a pro ten times better than him like that he plays the way he plays and whats important that he wins with it lately. you know his "tricks" and game style?beat him then, becouse theres counter to like everything and dont even bring me the "cheese" discussion,just becouse its not what the korean protosses play against during practice hours doesnt mean that strat is worse or victory achieved with it less valuable win is a win, get over it already idra didn't say he sucked, GTR did idra's description of shine's style is pretty accurate. i'm not sure who else in the "new generation of zergs" besides by.hero. "EDIT: After looking back at the Hero/Canata/Stork/Movie MSL group thread, I've concluded that Stork fanboys have eclipsed Bisu fanboys in whining." post topless pics of a progamer and legions of fanboys will defend him to the death i personally wouldn't do that, unless it was tossgirl | ||
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:55 geegee1 wrote: lol i like how they complain about 8 rax shit when its not even cheese. HEY GUYS I GET A FREE BASE AND I MINE MORE MINERALS YEA. God use the 9 pool. Hey, look at me, I'm Terran, I can stay on 2 base for an entire game and still just push out and roll a 4 base Zerg! 1. 8rax is cheese. 2. If 8rax isn't cheese, that just proves how imba it is then, if it's not even cheese and it can destroy a Zerg in the first 3 minutes of the game -.- Terran rage =< I personally don't really care if someone cheeses, that's just part of the game. Terran just has too many ways to fuck the Zerg over with imba shit like 8rax-bunker rush. =\ | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:28 GTR wrote: he deserves the hate because; and players like this truly suck I don't see IdrA in any OSL semifinals... | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 26 2009 08:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: 1. 8rax is cheese. 2. If 8rax isn't cheese, that just proves how imba it is then, if it's not even cheese and it can destroy a Zerg in the first 3 minutes of the game -.- 1. 8rax is not cheese. 2. 8rax->bunker rush is cheese. There's a distinct difference, seeing as you can end up going 8rax, snipe the overlord, scout a 9pool, then wall in and tech. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
I started reading TL in 2005 and it certainly wasn't as a cool place then as it is now (though that era had its own share of insider jokes, mysteries (who is mensrea) and WE HAD TO WATCH VODS FROM TORRENT) | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
Flash hate is nothing new. People just seemed to have forgotten, or jumped on the fanboywagon without knowing his history. Remember when he cheesed Bisu out of the Daum OSL? Yum yum. | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Motiva
United States1774 Posts
On December 26 2009 10:58 lazz wrote: why dont zergs just 12 pool on 2 player maps? o.O eh 12hatching is standard, and it wasn't simply that Jaedong 12hatched, he also lost that overlord, and he prolly could have held off the bunker rush a bit more cleanly (retreating drones the second the sunken pops) there is a bit of chance involved, and this isn't the thread to get in depth | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On December 26 2009 08:09 jalstar wrote: idra's description of shine's style is pretty accurate. i'm not sure who else in the "new generation of zergs" besides by.hero.  ZerO + YellOw[ArnC] any b-team zerg who randomly gets a proleague appeareance. That being said I'm a shine fan, the "new generation zergs" only use mutas and zerglings and (if they get past the 15 min mark) transition into ultraling with a couple defilers while massing cows. Shine is not such a player, he just often delays his hive while mass expoing and keeping his opponent contained, I don't see anything wrong or boring with that. The current state of ZvP sees players trying to push out and harass with shuttles or hydralisk drops while containing/being contained which gives a lot of "ooh" moments, and reavers come into play with lots of different roles, not only as a harassment unit which needs constant micro and as base defense (olololol no micro 40 zergling kills totally balanced) to help protoss' simcity but also as a big part of your push. Templars/Reavers/Zealots>Zerglings>Goons>Lurkers>Archons/(Zealots)>Mutas>Templars/Reavers PvZ is based on units countering eachother, when your opponents gets too many units of one kind you get the unit that counters them, and tech switches (should) keep happening. Hey, at least the 3 hat mutas into 5 hat hydras we are seeing today isn't the "3-hat allin muta micro OLOLOLOL Yarnc wins a ZvP OLOLOLOL" it used to be when it first came out. The most particular thing about shine is that he can decide to push with mutas, use them as an actual part of his army by keeping a sufficient amount that he can kill shuttles, sairs, clumped observers as well as zealots on the main battlefield, muta micro + active lurker control + A-moving hydras is very APM-intensive and pretty hard when you try it. Lots of people seem to forget that mutas are an absolute bane to zealots, mutas weren't normally used in PvZ when zeal/archon push was the main mid-game strategy from the protoss player. Right now toss will spend his gas on more reavers and templars for storms and will only turn his templars into archons when he is sure he broke the zerg's front and he knows that storms would be pointless to have to break a simcity. With only storms and goons to attack his mutas the flying shrimps become a much more efficient (although larva-requiring) unit. It's a trend switch, deal with it. (<3  Movie and Shine,  Flash always cheeses whenever he has to win (like when he was eliminated from the last OSL Ro16 and 8-raxed EffOrt, eliminating him)) | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Floydian
United Kingdom374 Posts
On December 26 2009 07:30 Horiz0n wrote: Seems to me like Shine plays to win, which at the end of the day is what its all about... *Edit I read through the hate-post and it made me feel a bit disappointed at TL which I have allways thought highly of in the “gamer fan sites” category. I thought we where better than this... Couldn't agree more. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On December 27 2009 07:51 EvilTeletubby wrote: This thread helped me out immensely. Hahaha... I was wondering if you had taken a couple of hints from here. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
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ghostWriter
United States3302 Posts
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Amarxist
United States371 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
It was a still a really fun and epic game. Sports fans blame the refs when their favourite team loses, SC players blame... the opponent for somehow not playing how he's supposed to. Hahahaha. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22256 Posts
On December 27 2009 13:18 Amarxist wrote: Less bans then I expected but good work. FYI there were numerous warnings too (for people with tenure who had an otherwise spotless record and normally contributed to the forums positively), but there is no way for you guys to see those. | ||
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yhnmk
Canada630 Posts
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