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RaptorX
Germany646 Posts
This week I will be learning Moon Glaive. I find it little bit difficult to mantain the high grounds because 1) zerg can flank too easily and plant lurkers around and 2) Siege Tanks are a pain in the butt specially when T's go for turtle 101 200/200 3-3-3 attack modes. Anyways I would like to hear any tips from you guys if you are willing to help a D/D+ guy. For example BO's and Strategies that have worked good for you in this map would be appreciated.  For Aiur To the C ranks!  | ||
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MasterReY
Germany2708 Posts
not trolling. making probes ALL THE TIME and making units in ur gates ALL THE TIME, will get you to C+ in 2 weeks. true story | ||
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ThE_OsToJiY
Canada1167 Posts
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Duke
United States1106 Posts
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EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
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TryThis
Canada1522 Posts
On December 20 2009 08:19 ThE_OsToJiY wrote: my suggestion for getting past D+: Don't pick the motw that koreans play. ^_^ all destination then | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
and python? lol | ||
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MisterKatosS
France352 Posts
I suggest starting with very passivs macros builds with a good timing attack, focus on macro (yes this is boring) | ||
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
On December 20 2009 08:29 EsX_Raptor wrote: Likewise, what does a Z need to know to get to C rank ~_~ how to make hydras | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On December 20 2009 10:20 lazz wrote: dont play python as protoss, python is an extremely terran favored map lol yeh those imbalances are really exploited by them C terrans. my god. | ||
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Polar_Nada
United States1548 Posts
On December 20 2009 10:20 lazz wrote: dont play python as protoss, python is an extremely terran favored map lol wtf. troll much?  | ||
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RLTY
United States965 Posts
Statistically, Python is a very good TvP map; but at D level, it's great for Protoss since most D level Terran aren't nearly good enough to take advantage of Python's imbalances. PvT: 28-41 (40.6%) [ Games ] | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 20 2009 11:00 icemac wrote: Statistically, Python is a very good TvP map; but at D level, it's great for Protoss since most D level Terran aren't nearly good enough to take advantage of Python's imbalances. hell i dont even know the disadvantages, is it the open shit to make vulture harass easy? or inc lose positions youc an slow push pretty effective.. enlighten me (not trolling) | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
terrans win 50% more than protosses do in TvP at pro level. that's about as imbalanced as it gets. On December 20 2009 11:08 arb wrote: hell i dont even know the disadvantages, is it the open shit to make vulture harass easy? or inc lose positions youc an slow push pretty effective.. enlighten me (not trolling) Short. Rush. Distance. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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RaptorX
Germany646 Posts
I have to admit that after I got 2-8 against the first wave of koreans I decided to go Python for a few games to straight that out, right now I am 5-9 and will resume with picking just moon glaive but you know what? when I start losing like crazy i will have to resort back to the map I know like the back of my palm.... xD It is true that just making probes has given me a lot of advantages with the D guys and I actually hit high D+ (and I am sure I can get C- fairly easily) but I want to learn little bit more now that I am confident in my overall probe production. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On December 20 2009 12:31 lazz wrote: terrans win 50% more than protosses do in TvP at pro level. that's about as imbalanced as it gets. Short. Rush. Distance. Short rush distance? I see, pythons imbalances is ALL about the 2fact lolololol | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
On December 20 2009 18:00 Zoler wrote: Short rush distance? I see, pythons imbalances is ALL about the 2fact lolololol EXACTLY! haha. when I play Korean Terrans on the map they're all about the 2 fac all-in or 2 base 6-7 fac all-in ^^ it's very hard to stop as P which is why i call python imba haha | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
Make sure your 1 2 3 groups are positioned so that they make a semicircle around the T's army at all times if you can. Try to fight him on the positions where there's plenty of space to place your army like that, don't attack on bridges etc. When you engage and do the starting micro, if you see the fight is going well, go back to macro, then back to the fight, if you see it's turned to bad, retreat, if not, micro a bit. Pull back when you loose zealots, unless you're sure you're going to kill him - then wait for the new wave of zeals (and some goons) and attack if the situation is good. (if your macro is better than his, you will have more reinforcement army and it will arrive sooner at the battle grounds, giving you an advantage) Always try to drag a few zealots manually a bit further than the rest and attack the tanks a bit behind - that draws tank fire away from the rest of your units and also uses the splash dmg against the Terran. (not to mention mine drag) When you have goons vs tanks, pull about 1-2 goons a bit in front of the rest, to avoid splash killing you. For macro, there are a few styles, I prefer to expand much, and have just enough army to defend, make pylon walls, put pylons at the edge of the base to check for drops, etc. It's dancing on the razors edge, but once your economy kicks in, it's much easier. As for Moon Glaive, I didn't play on it, but it seems like the map that requires the control of the center above anything else, since if you give up the high ground and expand a lot, the terran will have an easier time pinning you down. So I'd go with a bit more aggressive build here to reverse the situation, like powergoon and when you get some control, expand like mad. But I could be wrong. It looks like terrans can get easy exps, but once they run out of the first 3-4 exps, it's pretty hard to get new ones, so a build designed to hit at that timing could be also good, to prevent them expading. Recalling on the main *or* the furthermost exp seems viable, so terran has to be careful about that. For the 200/200 terran STOOOOORM and then waves of units from 234234234 gates. But for that, you gotta macro and expand, ie. try to identify if this terran is a 200/200 3-3 terran and expand more than usually if he is. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On December 20 2009 20:16 lazz wrote: EXACTLY! haha. when I play Korean Terrans on the map they're all about the 2 fac all-in or 2 base 6-7 fac all-in ^^ it's very hard to stop as P which is why i call python imba haha my point was that 6 fac isnt a rush | ||
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