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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
December 03 2009 05:17 GMT
#1
So, I was playing on my second account, because I recently changed some settings on my computer (including changes to the mouse sensitivity).

Rather than screw up royally on my real account, I figured I should play a couple of games on a different account.

I thought, throughout the game, that it was just a matter of time before his hydra ball ended up killing me. I was right. But it took a lot longer than I thought it would, and I definitely did better than I thought I would, considering I ran into a smurf (with a flawless ZvZ record, and I'm barely D+).

My average apm over 100ish games this season is 106. This game put me at 182, which was completely surprising.

Anyways, I know I screwed up - 2 lurkers would have ended the game in my favour, that and better micro..... And a number of things (like making some more drones).....

Anyways, it's a somewhat entertaining game, so, without further ado - here it is. It's also the highest apm I have ever had in a game. It is probably because I needed it to stand a chance in this game.

PS - Hydras are really good at lower level ZvZ when your opponent goes for mutas. It takes a lot of time to get enough of them, but they are really fucking effective once a large enough ball is built up, and some spores are in place.

*
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 03 2009 05:21 GMT
#2
On December 03 2009 14:17 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
hydra




ZvZ



Hydras are really good at ZvZ


what the fuck am i reading
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
December 03 2009 05:21 GMT
#3
You are "barely D+" and you didn't want to "screw up [stats] royally"? what?
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
December 03 2009 05:23 GMT
#4
I have used Hydra builds in the rare times that I do play ZvZ, and it make the games much more entertaining and more enjoyable. I just wish that the Hydra build and the Muta build in Pro ZvZ we're some how equal so we could have more variety.
^_^V
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
December 03 2009 05:28 GMT
#5
On December 03 2009 14:21 seppolevne wrote:
You are "barely D+" and you didn't want to "screw up [stats] royally"? what?


I didn't know what kind of effect my mouse sensitivity change, as well as some other changes (time it takes for the computer to register each keystroke, as well as how long it takes before it considers it a "multiple click", etc.....) were going to affect my gameplay..... And, like I said, I am "barely D+", and I would like to keep that little + beside my nice little "D" until the end of the season.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
December 03 2009 05:30 GMT
#6
On December 03 2009 14:21 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 14:17 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
hydra




ZvZ



Hydras are really good at ZvZ


what the fuck am i reading


Redskirt_ would say they're really good.
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
December 03 2009 05:31 GMT
#7
On December 03 2009 14:21 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 14:17 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
hydra




ZvZ



Hydras are really good at lower level ZvZ


what the fuck am i reading


You missed one key bit there.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 03 2009 05:32 GMT
#8
On December 03 2009 14:30 KawaiiRice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 14:21 lazz wrote:
On December 03 2009 14:17 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
hydra




ZvZ



Hydras are really good at ZvZ


what the fuck am i reading


Redskirt_ would say they're really good.

the japanese are some very strange people
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
December 03 2009 05:36 GMT
#9
On December 03 2009 14:28 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 14:21 seppolevne wrote:
You are "barely D+" and you didn't want to "screw up [stats] royally"? what?

(time it takes for the computer to register each keystroke, as well as how long it takes before it considers it a "multiple click", etc.....).


how do you adjust these?
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
December 03 2009 05:48 GMT
#10
congratulations on your apm-record (if you really are happy for it =)
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 06:03:35
December 03 2009 05:59 GMT
#11
On December 03 2009 14:36 anderoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 14:28 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
On December 03 2009 14:21 seppolevne wrote:
You are "barely D+" and you didn't want to "screw up [stats] royally"? what?

(time it takes for the computer to register each keystroke, as well as how long it takes before it considers it a "multiple click", etc.....).


how do you adjust these?


There are automatic "delay" settings in Windows that can be changed. Finding how to change them is the fun part.

EDIT - I thought I would expand on this - I type at roughly 120 wpm on a normal keyboard, but my typing is slowed to around 80 on my laptop because of delays in sensing when I strike a key. I lowered the delay timings which were responsible for it not registering a click, or registering simultaneous clicks with two keys, among other fuckups. It is quite annoying when you are typing, to have to back track to fix a word because the computer didn't realize that you actually intended to strike that key.....

It's a lot better now.
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 06:01:08
December 03 2009 06:00 GMT
#12
On December 03 2009 14:59 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 14:36 anderoo wrote:
On December 03 2009 14:28 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
On December 03 2009 14:21 seppolevne wrote:
You are "barely D+" and you didn't want to "screw up [stats] royally"? what?

(time it takes for the computer to register each keystroke, as well as how long it takes before it considers it a "multiple click", etc.....).


how do you adjust these?


There are automatic "delay" settings in Windows that can be changed. Finding how to change them is the fun part.


yeah that was kinda the part i was trying to avoid ;/

i guess thats what google is for
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
December 03 2009 06:02 GMT
#13
I've lost to hydras many many times, so they're something to be afraid of definitely.
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
December 03 2009 06:06 GMT
#14
On December 03 2009 14:48 Piste wrote:
congratulations on your apm-record (if you really are happy for it =)


Well, less than a year ago, I would struggle to get 40 apm. I'm definitely happy.

Oddly enough - with that kind of apm, I did not end up as a D- player.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
December 03 2009 06:07 GMT
#15
On December 03 2009 15:02 wok wrote:
I've lost to hydras many many times, so they're something to be afraid of definitely.


I think this guy has practiced this build, which is why it was so successful. It was intended to make hydras. I was thinking he was going to go for lings, but when I saw he kept droning, well, I knew it was coming. My micro is not good enough to engage a ball of hydras and come out the victor.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 06:16:38
December 03 2009 06:13 GMT
#16
On December 03 2009 15:02 wok wrote:
I've lost to hydras many many times, so they're something to be afraid of definitely.


yeah...but you're at the D- level of skill.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
December 03 2009 06:16 GMT
#17
On December 03 2009 15:02 wok wrote:
I've lost to hydras many many times, so they're something to be afraid of definitely.
every time i've played a hydra build i've smashed it without trouble. how do you handle the constant drone sniping? or the fact that you cant really pressure your opponent until WAAAY late (when both your upgrades are done)? or the fact that hydras do explosive damage and zerglings/mutalisks are small?
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
December 03 2009 06:18 GMT
#18
On December 03 2009 15:07 lMPERVlOUS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 15:02 wok wrote:
I've lost to hydras many many times, so they're something to be afraid of definitely.


I think this guy has practiced this build, which is why it was so successful. It was intended to make hydras. I was thinking he was going to go for lings, but when I saw he kept droning, well, I knew it was coming. My micro is not good enough to engage a ball of hydras and come out the victor.
don't engage? expand and get more mutalings? get air upgrades? snipe overlords/drones? just win?

and wtf lurkers lol. can you post replay?
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 06:26:02
December 03 2009 06:23 GMT
#19
It's posted..... in OP.....

Again, for convenience.

EDIT - I did not directly engage, I went and sniped overlords when possible (he retreated into his main), or I went hunting drones. I killed a lot over the course of the game. However, my economy was shit.....
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
wok
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States504 Posts
December 03 2009 06:26 GMT
#20
Wooooooow hydras
I'll race you to defeatism... you win.
Alphonsse
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States518 Posts
December 03 2009 06:39 GMT
#21
I remember day[9] talking about going hydras in ZvZ in one of his podcasts and that he was somewhat successful with it.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
December 03 2009 06:45 GMT
#22
HOLY SHIT

The game before that one was a ZvT - I won it.

My opponent had just reset from C-. Last season he was C+. FUCKING RIGHT!

Unfortunately, it didn't record as a win. Whatever. I've got the replay to prove it.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 03 2009 06:49 GMT
#23
im not a zerg player, but couldnt you keep him contained (fear of drone sniping) until fast hive and just destroy him with muta/crackling and dswarm? swarm would make his build useless.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 03 2009 07:41 GMT
#24
you dont even need hive tech just rape him with lings/mutas hydras blow agains tlings mutas cos they do half damage wtf guys god foriegner ZvZ is so bad
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 03 2009 08:19 GMT
#25
i quote my friend

"Mutas can kill an infinite amount of Hydras"

Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 03 2009 08:58 GMT
#26
On December 03 2009 16:41 lazz wrote:
you dont even need hive tech just rape him with lings/mutas hydras blow agains tlings mutas cos they do half damage wtf guys god foriegner ZvZ is so bad


So some D+ player posts and this is your reply? Do you even think before you type?

How do you beat Hydras? Mobility. Mutas are mobile. Hydras are not. Snipe drones. Snipe lone hydras. Use cliffs. Snipe overlords.

How does Hydra win vs Muta? Expands earlier. You must have your expansion sooner and get it with some spores, before the muta guy has his expo going.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-03 10:48:21
December 03 2009 10:46 GMT
#27
lol i like how having a huge economic advantage is a precursor for winning with hydra

seriously i just cringe whenever i see a hydralisk in ZvZ, it's just so so so bad

it's like using marine/medic in TvT. terrible,terrible idea because all the factory tech rapes infantry so hard. just like muta ling rapes hydras so hard and on top of that is more mobile
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